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  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post
    Neither can disprove the other and would be similar to trying to discuss a maths question using English grammar.
    We call those word problems where I'm from and they're evil. Obviously a tool of the state.

    Welcome to the forums.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    It’s not a demand, it’s more a question of if I’m in the right place, hence guest posting first. I was invited here and didn’t just appear. A sincere thanks for the welcomes, but even in this short space of time I’ve been told "don’t mind the weirdos" and I or my post are, "Obviously a tool of the state."
    Neither you nor your post was ever referred to as being "obviously a tool of the state".

    Math "word problems" were clearly the antecedent to which that phrase was jokingly applied, not you or your post.

    If you are so hypersensitive to criticism that you imagine it where it doesn't even exist, then this almost certainly is not the place for you ...
    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Occam’s Banana. In the past four years I’ve voluntarily exited two American run forums. The first tried to convince me that Obama was a returning Messiah and the current one that Trump was elected by divine intervention. I’ve met people that think Mozambique is a country off the coast of America and had to explain the difference between nationalism and patriotism to people slightly above the level of retardation, which apparently makes me a Nazi, or a communist depending which forum I was on. In between, I’ve had bucketfuls of constant insults, personal attacks, snide remarks and I’m sick of it!

    Now you tell me why I shouldn’t be wary about joining another American forum?
    Given your difficulties with reading comprehension, you should certainly be wary about joining any English-speaking forum.

    You claimed that Suzanimal said you are (or your post was) "obviously a tool of the state". That is simply not true. It is clear to anyone who reads what she actually said that she was just making a joke about math word-problems being "obviously a tool of the state". She said absolutely nothing at all about you or your post being "obviously a tool of the state". But apparently, you are so hypersensitive to criticism that you go looking for (and finding) insults where they simply do not exist.

    Given your demonstrated inability to understand what someone on this forum actually said, I am not much inclined to give credence to your anecdotes about what someone else on some other forum actually said. But even if those anecdotes are not merely a product of your hypersensitivity and/or reading-comprehension deficiencies, so what? If you are going to refuse to participate in a public Internet forum because there might be fools on it - or because you might be subjected to (real or imagined) insults, personal attacks or snide remarks - then you are not going to be participating in any public Internet forums at all.

    And please do not presume to lecture us further about whether we are worthy of your august presence. I'll save you the trouble: we almost certainly are not ...
    Last edited by Occam's Banana; 02-08-2019 at 12:20 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    Given your difficulties with reading comprehension, you should certainly be wary about joining any English-speaking forum.

    You claimed that Suzanimal said you or your post was "obviously a tool of the state". That is simply not true. It is clear to anyone who reads what she actually said that she was just making a joke about math word-problems being "obviously a tool of the state". She said absolutely nothing at all about you or your post being "obviously a tool of the state". But apparently, you are so hypersensitive to criticism that you go looking for (and finding) insults where they simply do not exist.

    Given your demonstrated inability to understand what someone on this forum actually said, I am not much inclined to give credence to your anecdotes about what someone else on some other forum actually said. But even if those anecdotes are not a product of your hypersensitivity and/or reading-comprehension deficiencies, so what? If you are going to refuse to participate in a public Internet forum because there might be fools on it, then you are not going to be participating in any public Internet forums at all.

    And please do not presume to lecture us further about whether we are worthy of your august presence. I'll save you the trouble: we almost certainly are not ...
    I don't think I would want to be a member of any forum he wanted to join.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Ron Paul has spent his life trying to find the answer. I do the lessons from history. You do the guns on the streets battle plans civil war stuff. There is no ĎYes we caní or ĎMAGA.í Obama and Trump are the end result and the obvious decline youíre witnessing. I think my initial reluctance to join was well founded and youíve confirmed it. Saves my time and yours. Have a nice day, as they say.

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    Weíve all spent time on forums and I think weíll all agree that the amount of gibberish on them isnít worth the time, or effort. The vast majority of them are unfriendly places at best and no one wants to spend time fighting off the majority keyboard warriors and dumb or low-information crowd who frequent them.

    Anti Federalist for instance, has wasted nearly 15 years on a forum expecting an answer as to what America can do to recover. Obviously not the brightest bunny on the block, but one day might discover there is no answer. What heís seeing is an irreversible decline. Obviously not a fan of RP articles. Similarly, Ocammís brain has struggled for nearly a decade to inform someone they canít read, or their comprehension is lacking? The crowning glory of his wasted years as he substitutes for Suzanimal because heís nothing else to say, or probably worth saying.

    What you have done is convince me to stay away from American forums. Perhaps in another 10 years you might discover why this forum is so dead and a graveyard of one liners. Iím generalizing of course and there will be good, friendly and intelligent people here, but Iím not getting that feeling from these guest posts.

    I would explain why being a Republic didnít save you from Marxist Obama and what happened in a supposedly first-world society to produce clowns like Obama and Trump. The difference between socialism and socialist, or why and how the hard left were able to take over the Democrat party, bypassing the constitution. No, you donít understand and itís why youíre now ready to kill each other on the streets and wondering how it came to that.

    Donít blame me for trying to find out the extent of weirdness on another American forum before I committed myself. Past tense and Iíll now leave you to argue amongst yourselves.

  7. #35
    English may not be my first language but @Danke says it is pretty good .
    Do something Danke

  8. #36
    Good riddance.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  9. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Weíve all spent time on forums and I think weíll all agree that the amount of gibberish on them isnít worth the time, or effort. The vast majority of them are unfriendly places at best and no one wants to spend time fighting off the majority keyboard warriors and dumb or low-information crowd who frequent them.

    Anti Federalist for instance, has wasted nearly 15 years on a forum expecting an answer as to what America can do to recover. Obviously not the brightest bunny on the block, but one day might discover there is no answer. What heís seeing is an irreversible decline. Obviously not a fan of RP articles. Similarly, Ocammís brain has struggled for nearly a decade to inform someone they canít read, or their comprehension is lacking? The crowning glory of his wasted years as he substitutes for Suzanimal because heís nothing else to say, or probably worth saying.

    What you have done is convince me to stay away from American forums. Perhaps in another 10 years you might discover why this forum is so dead and a graveyard of one liners. Iím generalizing of course and there will be good, friendly and intelligent people here, but Iím not getting that feeling from these guest posts.

    I would explain why being a Republic didnít save you from Marxist Obama and what happened in a supposedly first-world society to produce clowns like Obama and Trump. The difference between socialism and socialist, or why and how the hard left were able to take over the Democrat party, bypassing the constitution. No, you donít understand and itís why youíre now ready to kill each other on the streets and wondering how it came to that.

    Donít blame me for trying to find out the extent of weirdness on another American forum before I committed myself. Past tense and Iíll now leave you to argue amongst yourselves.
    MOFA (Make Orwell Fiction Again)

  10. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    We’ve all spent time on forums and I think we’ll all agree that the amount of gibberish on them isn’t worth the time, or effort. The vast majority of them are unfriendly places at best and no one wants to spend time fighting off the majority keyboard warriors and dumb or low-information crowd who frequent them.

    Anti Federalist for instance, has wasted nearly 15 years on a forum expecting an answer as to what America can do to recover. Obviously not the brightest bunny on the block, but one day might discover there is no answer. What he’s seeing is an irreversible decline. Obviously not a fan of RP articles. Similarly, Ocamm’s brain has struggled for nearly a decade to inform someone they can’t read, or their comprehension is lacking? The crowning glory of his wasted years as he substitutes for Suzanimal because he’s nothing else to say, or probably worth saying.

    What you have done is convince me to stay away from American forums. Perhaps in another 10 years you might discover why this forum is so dead and a graveyard of one liners. I’m generalizing of course and there will be good, friendly and intelligent people here, but I’m not getting that feeling from these guest posts.

    I would explain why being a Republic didn’t save you from Marxist Obama and what happened in a supposedly first-world society to produce clowns like Obama and Trump. The difference between socialism and socialist, or why and how the hard left were able to take over the Democrat party, bypassing the constitution. No, you don’t understand and it’s why you’re now ready to kill each other on the streets and wondering how it came to that.

    Don’t blame me for trying to find out the extent of weirdness on another American forum before I committed myself. Past tense and I’ll now leave you to argue amongst yourselves.
    *Occam
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    This intellectually stimulating conversation is the reason I keep coming here.

  11. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Similarly, Ocammís brain has struggled for nearly a decade to inform someone they canít read, or their comprehension is lacking? The crowning glory of his wasted years as he substitutes for Suzanimal because heís nothing else to say, or probably worth saying.
    MOFA (Make Orwell Fiction Again)

  12. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Anti Federalist for instance, has wasted nearly 15 years on a forum expecting an answer as to what America can do to recover. Obviously not the brightest bunny on the block, but one day might discover there is no answer. What he’s seeing is an irreversible decline. Obviously not a fan of RP articles. Similarly, Ocamm’s brain has struggled for nearly a decade to inform someone they can’t read, or their comprehension is lacking? The crowning glory of his wasted years as he substitutes for Suzanimal because he’s nothing else to say, or probably worth saying.
    Looks like we (or at least me, AF and maybe Suzanimal) are being sent to the Group W bench ...



    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    What you have done is convince me to stay away from American forums. Perhaps in another 10 years you might discover why this forum is so dead and a graveyard of one liners. I’m generalizing of course and there will be good, friendly and intelligent people here, but I’m not getting that feeling from these guest posts.

    I would explain why being a Republic didn’t save you from Marxist Obama and what happened in a supposedly first-world society to produce clowns like Obama and Trump. The difference between socialism and socialist, or why and how the hard left were able to take over the Democrat party, bypassing the constitution. No, you don’t understand and it’s why you’re now ready to kill each other on the streets and wondering how it came to that.

    Don’t blame me for trying to find out the extent of weirdness on another American forum before I committed myself. Past tense and I’ll now leave you to argue amongst yourselves.


    I guess we've dodged another Christopher A. Brown.

    But I kind of miss Christopher. At least he was funny (whether he intended to be or not) and he could definitely take the heat.

    Won't miss this guy, though. Unreg, we hardly knew ye ...
    Last edited by Occam's Banana; 02-09-2019 at 09:50 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    Looks like we (or at least me, AF and maybe Suzanimal) are being sent to the Group W bench ...
    "Until I said...'and disturbing the peace' and they all came back to me on the bench there..."

  15. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    You are now witnessing a decline in a divided society in which Lincoln warned you that America will only be destroyed from within. Let’s see what response I get to this.
    Lincoln was a dick head.
    There...two sentences.
    All modern revolutions have ended in a reinforcement of the power of the State.
    -Albert Camus

  16. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by otherone View Post
    Lincoln was a dick head.
    There...two sentences.
    Hung more Indians than anyone , ever in Dankes home state which is heavily poplualted with unrepentant democratic socialists . Shudder.
    Do something Danke

  17. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    In the past four years I’ve voluntarily exited two American run forums. The first tried to convince me that Obama was a returning Messiah and the current one that Trump was elected by divine intervention. I’ve met people that think Mozambique is a country off the coast of America and had to explain the difference between nationalism and patriotism to people slightly above the level of retardation, which apparently makes me a Nazi, or a communist depending which forum I was on. In between, I’ve had bucketfuls of constant insults, personal attacks, snide remarks and I’m sick of it!

    Now you tell me why I shouldn’t be wary about joining another American forum?

    Well, first things first. Welcome to the forum, John. Are you still in China? We have a few members here with China connections. At least one has a wife from there. Another guy named PaulConventionWV went there to teach. I see he hasn't been here for over one year. Anybody heard from Paul? My wife is from Philippines and I have spent a decent amount of time there.

    I find this place to be a fairly unique collection of sharp people. I've been here 8 years and have learned quite a bit. My views have actually shifted perceptibly since that time. I find Occam's Banana to be one of the sharpest people here, and you'd have your hands full debating him. I surely would not want to.

    I do think that some of the philosophical talk can get old because it gets rehashed over and over. The ivory tower talk often wears thin if there is too much, but you will find that people here do contribute money and run for office. Three such RPF members in politics are Clyde from Indiana and Brett Fairchild of Kansas , and Glenn Bradley from my very own North Carolina.

    Sorry if I missed anyone else in this group!



    You will also find that people here are unbelievably giving. They raise a lot of money when someone has some trouble. A great example is a guy here whose wife got cancer. Our very own Anti-Federalist often leads in prompting the contributions, but other people here do as well.

    I think what you are encountering in those other forums of which you speak is typical forum behavior. I've been booted off various forums multiple times, including Democratic Underground, Alipac, Stormfront, RevLeft, Yahoo Answers, Glock Talk, Debate Politics, Political Forum, Liberal Forum Dot Org, and many others. I can tell you some humorous stories from those sometime later. We also have our share of hijinks here because there are progressive trolls who are actually paid to post here. Some of us here like to troll these trolls!

    My mainstay is Yahoo Answers. I try to give researched advice to people on practical issues: joining (or actually not joining) the military/police, dealing with child protective services (CPS) petty tyrants, concealed carry, jury nullification, pig (police) roadblocks, vaccine exemptions, homework help, and other topics. I made a thread about it here.


    I think people here (and elsewhere) get very frustrated with the state of things. Our very own member H_H outlined five basic ways to promote liberty. I think I got this right when I list them:


    Move from your oppressive country or area
    Get involved politically
    Go underground and bypass the government
    Educate
    Be an agitator


    All those, of course, have advantages and disadvantages. I've done all those things at some point, but currently focus on two of them. I'm not moving anymore because I stopped running away from this. And, the place to which you move might change and become more oppressive. Bypassing the government is a good one, and a few people here are sometimes bold enough to mention ways they skirt statutes.

    So my suggestion is post your views, but also take the time to get to know people. It really is a unique and cool bunch of people here. I know it's tempting to jump into a new forum and unload one's views. I always suggest however, to listen first and talk second. It might sound corny, but I compare it to a new job. You first sit back to learn the landscape, and then you dig in later.

    Again, welcome to the forum.



    NCL

    Last edited by NorthCarolinaLiberty; 02-15-2019 at 07:35 AM.
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    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
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    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
    Quote Originally Posted by Dforkus View Post
    Zippy's posts are a great contribution.




    Disrupt, Deny, Deflate. Read the RPF trolls' playbook here (post #3): http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...eptive-members

  18. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Ron Paul has spent his life trying to find the answer. I do the lessons from history. You do the guns on the streets battle plans civil war stuff. There is no ‘Yes we can’ or ‘MAGA.’ Obama and Trump are the end result and the obvious decline you’re witnessing. I think my initial reluctance to join was well founded and you’ve confirmed it. Saves my time and yours. Have a nice day, as they say.

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