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    Once upon a time in the land of the free

    I thought I’d write a guest post first, introduce myself and see what reaction I get if and before I join. Here on the recommendation of PAF. I’m, Pork Pie, a Brit who emigrated to Asia in 2008. I’m an English and social science teacher who has worked in Russia and Thailand and just returned to SE Asia after many years of teaching in China. Obviously I don’t do activism because I’m not American; I explain and have no affiliations to anyone or anything. I was reading RP and people like him long before it became fashionable to do so and in my wanderings have lived and worked in societies led by replica Obama and Trump characters. So, as a starter let me summarize where it all went wrong.

    Once upon a time a man called Marx discovered something unique; that you could convince a population they’d share in a country’s wealth by believing politicians. In an age of monarchies and absolute destitution this wasn’t difficult, it caught on and the Soviet Union was born.

    A few years later, the Second International (Comintern) in 1922 sought to answer a question. If communism was so perfect, why weren’t European workers clamouring for it? The leading Marxist intellectuals of that era Hungarian György Lukács and Italian Antonio Gramsci set out to find the answer. On his return to Italy Gramsci was promptly arrested by Mussolini and put in prison as a danger to society, from where he wrote his famous (1929 – 1935) 'Prison notebooks.' Gramsci discovered where Marx had gone wrong, it wasn’t about class, but culture and cultural Marxism was born. Gramsci’s ‘Prison notebooks’ faded into obscurity. Post war Europe boomed, Reagan and Thatcher stopped the moves towards communism and it wasn’t until the 90s that the hard left re-discovered Gramsci.

    Many people in America have difficulty understanding the term 'cultural Marxism', so let’s use a term you’re familiar with - Identity politics. The new catalyst for the revolution became the minorities; the immigrants, the homosexuals, the feminists, the criminals … Gramsci realized that the way to the revolution was to demolish the traditional values of society, the main three being the breakdown of national identity (multiculturalism), introduce a plurality of religions (diversity) and destroy family values using feminism and the homosexual agenda (equality).

    What is termed 'The quiet revolution' began in Europe and spread to America. This entailed taking over the institutions and was a huge success. Bernie Sanders is not a socialist, he’s a Maoist. Hillary Clinton disguised as a Democrat is actually a radical Alinsky anarchist and Obama who brought you identity politics is about as American as a Chinese Mums apple pie! Their combined commonality is progressivism, a benevolent authoritarianism. But how did they change society? Colleges became Marxist centres of learning. Antifa became the latter day Red Guard and the BLM KGB took it upon itself to determine who was a racist or Nazi. The Internet began to provide information of European Union leaders who were in touch with aliens from outer space and in America, Satanic orgies in the basement of the White House and courtesy of Mr. Icke, we now know that shape shifting reptiles roam the earth …

    There are two types of thought. The first is based on beliefs; subjective thoughts in which there exists no right or wrong and so reality becomes whatever one wishes it to be. The second is based around reality and facts. Neither can disprove the other and would be similar to trying to discuss a maths question using English grammar.
    Into this belief system came Obama, marketed as a returning Messiah. Pelosi once famously remarked, "Economists agree that unemployment benefits remain one of the best ways to grow the economy in a very immediate way." Not to be outdone in subjective stupidity, Hillary replied that, "Let’s be clear: Islam is not our adversary. Muslims are peaceful and tolerant people and have nothing whatsoever to do with terrorism." Islam by the way is not a religion, it’s a 7th century ideology based on conquest and submission.

    And just when you thought it was all over … Along comes another Messiah, an extreme narcissist and arguably a sociopath named Mr. Trump who informs another set of believers that Mexico will pay for a wall, Hillary Clinton will be prosecuted and he alone will, "make America rich again."

    The reason Ron Paul and those like him sound so odd to many is that he’s trying to re-introduce reality back into a new age belief fixated society. I’ve lived through the collapse of the British Empire and the Soviet Union. I’ve also seen Russia and China abandon their previous nonsense and surge ahead, while the west regresses back to building socialist utopias. You are now witnessing a decline in a divided society in which Lincoln warned you that America will only be destroyed from within. Let’s see what response I get to this.



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    Neither can disprove the other and would be similar to trying to discuss a maths question using English grammar.
    We call those word problems where I'm from and they're evil. Obviously a tool of the state.

    Welcome to the forums.
    Last edited by Suzanimal; 02-02-2019 at 05:52 AM.
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    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    This intellectually stimulating conversation is the reason I keep coming here.

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    Sorry, you’ve lost me. The "word problems" are not semantics, they’re types of thought. The opinion that Obama is a Messiah is a belief which can’t be proven by fact. Conversely, the fact that Trump has surrounded himself with the American term ‘neocons’, donates a shift towards the extreme right and nationalism (as opposed to conventional patriotism), which can’t be disproved by belief. In 2008 America took on the beliefs of identity politics. Obama came and went, but the beliefs remained and transferred themselves onto another character whose promises are also based on beliefs.

    "Obviously a tool of the state?" Who or what? Remember I’m a Brit and need things spelling out clearly.

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    I think you will be fun.
    #NashvilleStrong

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    Welcome to the forum.

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    Well, thanks and everything, but I haven’t joined the forum yet. I’m on the guest thread. I’ve got three welcomes, "a tool of the state" which I’m not clear why and one "I think you will be fun." Did I overdo it in my first op? I’m certainly not here to entertain.

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    Register already dude.
    On Trump:
    How conservative Republicans can continue to support this arrogant imposter—the man who brags about inflicting the world with the Covid mark of the beast; the man who said, “Take the guns first, go through due process second”; and the man who deliberately played and then set up Stewart Rhodes (of course, Stewart was all too eager to be Trump’s patsy) for an 18-year prison sentence—is truly beyond my comprehension.” Chuck Baldwin

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    Welcome! Don't mind the weirdos here.
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    Greetings .
    Do something Danke

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    Do you know RepublicanGuy?
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    This intellectually stimulating conversation is the reason I keep coming here.

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    Let me give you a bit of history. I’m currently on another site that labels itself conservative, but resembles a Trump appreciation society. Here I learn that McDonalds provides healthy food free from additives, the US is bankrupt because India stole all the gold, losing the House mid-terms to the Democrats was a win and Russia in any coming confrontation will be a pushover. In all my travels around the world I have never come across such low-information from people, even in developing countries.

    I favour articles because I want explanations, not a single link to someone else’s opinion. I also write my own explanatory essays and publish them on various sites.

    academia.edu/37603235/Producing_the_Rise_and_Fall_of_American_Belief_Bub bles
    academia.edu/35489707/Explaining_Liberal_Millennial_Psychology

    There are many people like Ron Paul, but RP stands out because he’s one of the few Americans who ‘gets it.’

    When I go on a site I first look for an Op-ed thread and from a few hundred words I can gauge the level of knowledge and intelligence of what I can expect from that forum. This forum doesn’t have one and I suppose RPs website is the Op-ed and what he says is discussed here. I spent ten minutes browsing through various threads and posts of one liners here and the most I came across was sentence length.

    I wasted half an hour writing the op from the top of my head. As a member you get a contributor. I get one liner replies which I think you’ll agree is rather pointless. Perhaps RPs website is looking for articles? I’ll drop them a line. Meanwhile, maybe PAF will join in and give some input?

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    I'm sorry the site falls short of your expectations. I am sure everybody will be working hard to meet, let's be honest - a rather modest, demands of a porky pie.
    Last edited by timosman; 02-02-2019 at 11:05 PM.

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    It’s not a demand, it’s more a question of if I’m in the right place, hence guest posting first. I was invited here and didn’t just appear. A sincere thanks for the welcomes, but even in this short space of time I’ve been told "don’t mind the weirdos" and I or my post are, "Obviously a tool of the state."

    I’m not looking for one liners and it doesn’t appear the forum is interested in articles or discussion, so it’s rather pointless my being here. I’ve contacted RPs website, maybe they’re interested in articles. If not, I’ll carry on posting them on my own blog and/or my usual International sites elsewhere. No hard feelings.

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    So, its sounds like you're looking for feedback on your writing in the OP. I'd really love to discuss this with you. You're pretty spot on with your explanation of what happens, but you leave out a little of why it works. The cultural Marxism creates a backlash reverb effect and even the people who are opposed to it, end up giving more power. It's like the mechanical resonance of human nature. I believe that Republics can act as an antidote to that, but Republics create wealth and wealth creates Empires. Empires are entirely susceptible.

    Anyway, you may be a little late. That kind of post and conversation would have been valuable here years ago, but now you'll find this place is not much different from that other site of which you spoke.
    "And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat

    "It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire

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    No, not feedback, discussion. News has a habit of fading into history 24 hours after it’s published. I write about the bigger picture, why things happen and what lies behind it. We (the world) already knew what Obama and his sidekick Michael LaVaughn Robinson were before the ‘heal America’ returning Messiah rhetoric. We know what Trump is. We knew about open borders and the dangers of Islam long before America said it could never happen here. Nothing that is happening now is a surprise to us and we write about it.

    The British Empire once ruled half the world, was extremely wealthy and wasn’t a Republic. Empires across history also have a 100% record failure. What you’re now seeing now is the decline of the American Empire as it goes bankrupt and following a set pattern, lashes out.

    Cultural Marxism is the social anarchy you see around you and behind it lies progressivism – a benevolent dictatorship similar to Huxley’s ‘Brave New World Revisited.’ It’s all socialism and communism ever were. It came to America in the 60s and it never left. Where I disagree with RP is that a divided America can recover.

    This is cultural Marxism. I also write about the effects of liberalism, millennials and the importance of religion, but as you say and for whatever reason, it’s not for this forum and so it’s best if I stick to articles.

    academia.edu/24806338/Cultural_Marxism_-_Social_Chaos

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    Welcome to RP, Pork Chop, I was hoping you would make your way here ;-)
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    is your name Chris?

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    Der iS a very popular children’s site that you could write for.

    very content orienteD and it’S extremely influential on the conversation globally.

    Don’t pooh-pooh the children’S aspect — they’re the only ones who’ll listen anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Let me give you a bit of history. I’m currently on another site that labels itself conservative, but resembles a Trump appreciation society. Here I learn that McDonalds provides healthy food free from additives, the US is bankrupt because India stole all the gold, losing the House mid-terms to the Democrats was a win and Russia in any coming confrontation will be a pushover. In all my travels around the world I have never come across such low-information from people, even in developing countries.

    I favour articles because I want explanations, not a single link to someone else’s opinion. I also write my own explanatory essays and publish them on various sites.

    academia.edu/37603235/Producing_the_Rise_and_Fall_of_American_Belief_Bub bles
    academia.edu/35489707/Explaining_Liberal_Millennial_Psychology

    There are many people like Ron Paul, but RP stands out because he’s one of the few Americans who ‘gets it.’

    When I go on a site I first look for an Op-ed thread and from a few hundred words I can gauge the level of knowledge and intelligence of what I can expect from that forum. This forum doesn’t have one and I suppose RPs website is the Op-ed and what he says is discussed here. I spent ten minutes browsing through various threads and posts of one liners here and the most I came across was sentence length.

    I wasted half an hour writing the op from the top of my head. As a member you get a contributor. I get one liner replies which I think you’ll agree is rather pointless. Perhaps RPs website is looking for articles? I’ll drop them a line. Meanwhile, maybe PAF will join in and give some input?
    Where is India keeping all of the gold ?
    Do something Danke

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    Who knows if India has stolen the US gold reserve, it’s what so-called conservatives are telling me on the current forum I’m on. That’s between my having to explain that divine intervention isn’t responsible for electing US Presidents (I kid you not). PAF assures me I’d be a welcome addition to this forum. I disagree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Who knows if India has stolen the US gold reserve, it’s what so-called conservatives are telling me on the current forum I’m on. That’s between my having to explain that divine intervention isn’t responsible for electing US Presidents (I kid you not). PAF assures me I’d be a welcome addition to this forum. I disagree.
    oyarde is blaming India but I think he’s the one who heisted it.

    Yeah that other forum is full of trump-humpers but we have a few here as well. RPF of all places, I figured they would have made a TDS sub forum by now
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Who knows if India has stolen the US gold reserve, it’s what so-called conservatives are telling me on the current forum I’m on. That’s between my having to explain that divine intervention isn’t responsible for electing US Presidents (I kid you not). PAF assures me I’d be a welcome addition to this forum. I disagree.
    This place is like the carnival of the Pawnee Bill Wild West Show in 1888 , everybody is welcome .
    Do something Danke

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    Welcome! Don't mind the weirdos here.
    We are the best ones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    It’s not a demand, it’s more a question of if I’m in the right place, hence guest posting first. I was invited here and didn’t just appear. A sincere thanks for the welcomes, but even in this short space of time I’ve been told "don’t mind the weirdos" and I or my post are, "Obviously a tool of the state."
    Neither you nor your post was ever referred to as being "obviously a tool of the state".

    Math "word problems" were clearly the antecedent to which that phrase was jokingly applied, not you or your post.

    If you are so hypersensitive to criticism that you imagine it where it doesn't even exist, then this almost certainly is not the place for you ...
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    In before Danke calls Bryan a weirdo ( again )
    Do something Danke

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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    In before Danke calls Bryan a weirdo ( again )
    Well, there is some evidence that Bryan is a reptilian ... (or was it a Mossad agent ... ?)
    The Bastiat Collection · FREE PDF · FREE EPUB · PAPER
    Frédéric Bastiat (1801-1850)

    • "When law and morality are in contradiction to each other, the citizen finds himself in the cruel alternative of either losing his moral sense, or of losing his respect for the law."
      -- The Law (p. 54)
    • "Government is that great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else."
      -- Government (p. 99)
    • "[W]ar is always begun in the interest of the few, and at the expense of the many."
      -- Economic Sophisms - Second Series (p. 312)
    • "There are two principles that can never be reconciled - Liberty and Constraint."
      -- Harmonies of Political Economy - Book One (p. 447)

    · tu ne cede malis sed contra audentior ito ·

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    Occam’s Banana. In the past four years I’ve voluntarily exited two American run forums. The first tried to convince me that Obama was a returning Messiah and the current one that Trump was elected by divine intervention. I’ve met people that think Mozambique is a country off the coast of America and had to explain the difference between nationalism and patriotism to people slightly above the level of retardation, which apparently makes me a Nazi, or a communist depending which forum I was on. In between, I’ve had bucketfuls of constant insults, personal attacks, snide remarks and I’m sick of it!

    Now you tell me why I shouldn’t be wary about joining another American forum?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Let me give you a bit of history. I’m currently on another site that labels itself conservative, but resembles a Trump appreciation society. Here I learn that McDonalds provides healthy food free from additives, the US is bankrupt because India stole all the gold, losing the House mid-terms to the Democrats was a win and Russia in any coming confrontation will be a pushover. In all my travels around the world I have never come across such low-information from people, even in developing countries.

    I favour articles because I want explanations, not a single link to someone else’s opinion. I also write my own explanatory essays and publish them on various sites.

    academia.edu/37603235/Producing_the_Rise_and_Fall_of_American_Belief_Bub bles
    academia.edu/35489707/Explaining_Liberal_Millennial_Psychology

    There are many people like Ron Paul, but RP stands out because he’s one of the few Americans who ‘gets it.’

    When I go on a site I first look for an Op-ed thread and from a few hundred words I can gauge the level of knowledge and intelligence of what I can expect from that forum. This forum doesn’t have one and I suppose RPs website is the Op-ed and what he says is discussed here. I spent ten minutes browsing through various threads and posts of one liners here and the most I came across was sentence length.

    I wasted half an hour writing the op from the top of my head. As a member you get a contributor. I get one liner replies which I think you’ll agree is rather pointless. Perhaps RPs website is looking for articles? I’ll drop them a line. Meanwhile, maybe PAF will join in and give some input?

    Oh for $#@!'s sake, another philosotarian that thinks he has had the all consuming brain flash, has had the revelation that leads to Grand Unification Theory of politics.

    Guess what? We all know that. My god, it's been discussed, thrashed about, debated and dead horse meat beaten into hamburger.

    Enough talk already.

    How about explaining how:

    A - Getting even a sizable minority of the fellow idiots all around us to understand and act on and vote on these principles and lessons from history.

    B - Lacking that, a battle plan to secede or take over.

    That's where the rubber meets the road fella, not in endless circle jerks of philosotarian navel gazing.

    Come up with some out of the box thinking to accomplish that, and I'll sit up and take notice.
    Last edited by Anti Federalist; 02-07-2019 at 05:06 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Occam’s Banana. In the past four years I’ve voluntarily exited two American run forums. The first tried to convince me that Obama was a returning Messiah and the current one that Trump was elected by divine intervention. I’ve met people that think Mozambique is a country off the coast of America and had to explain the difference between nationalism and patriotism to people slightly above the level of retardation, which apparently makes me a Nazi, or a communist depending which forum I was on. In between, I’ve had bucketfuls of constant insults, personal attacks, snide remarks and I’m sick of it!

    Now you tell me why I shouldn’t be wary about joining another American forum?
    Well , I am surprised anyone in america would care where Mozambique is , they were probably foreigners posing as 'Mericans . I am an expert things of this nature .
    Do something Danke

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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    Well , I am surprised anyone in america would care where Mozambique is , they were probably foreigners posing as 'Mericans . I am an expert things of this nature .
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