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  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post
    Neither can disprove the other and would be similar to trying to discuss a maths question using English grammar.
    We call those word problems where I'm from and they're evil. Obviously a tool of the state.

    Welcome to the forums.
    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    It’s not a demand, it’s more a question of if I’m in the right place, hence guest posting first. I was invited here and didn’t just appear. A sincere thanks for the welcomes, but even in this short space of time I’ve been told "don’t mind the weirdos" and I or my post are, "Obviously a tool of the state."
    Neither you nor your post was ever referred to as being "obviously a tool of the state".

    Math "word problems" were clearly the antecedent to which that phrase was jokingly applied, not you or your post.

    If you are so hypersensitive to criticism that you imagine it where it doesn't even exist, then this almost certainly is not the place for you ...
    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Occam’s Banana. In the past four years I’ve voluntarily exited two American run forums. The first tried to convince me that Obama was a returning Messiah and the current one that Trump was elected by divine intervention. I’ve met people that think Mozambique is a country off the coast of America and had to explain the difference between nationalism and patriotism to people slightly above the level of retardation, which apparently makes me a Nazi, or a communist depending which forum I was on. In between, I’ve had bucketfuls of constant insults, personal attacks, snide remarks and I’m sick of it!

    Now you tell me why I shouldn’t be wary about joining another American forum?
    Given your difficulties with reading comprehension, you should certainly be wary about joining any English-speaking forum.

    You claimed that Suzanimal said you are (or your post was) "obviously a tool of the state". That is simply not true. It is clear to anyone who reads what she actually said that she was just making a joke about math word-problems being "obviously a tool of the state". She said absolutely nothing at all about you or your post being "obviously a tool of the state". But apparently, you are so hypersensitive to criticism that you go looking for (and finding) insults where they simply do not exist.

    Given your demonstrated inability to understand what someone on this forum actually said, I am not much inclined to give credence to your anecdotes about what someone else on some other forum actually said. But even if those anecdotes are not merely a product of your hypersensitivity and/or reading-comprehension deficiencies, so what? If you are going to refuse to participate in a public Internet forum because there might be fools on it - or because you might be subjected to (real or imagined) insults, personal attacks or snide remarks - then you are not going to be participating in any public Internet forums at all.

    And please do not presume to lecture us further about whether we are worthy of your august presence. I'll save you the trouble: we almost certainly are not ...
    Last edited by Occam's Banana; 02-08-2019 at 12:20 AM.
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    Frédéric Bastiat (1801-1850)

    • "When law and morality are in contradiction to each other, the citizen finds himself in the cruel alternative of either losing his moral sense, or of losing his respect for the law."
      -- The Law (p. 54)
    • "Government is that great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else."
      -- Government (p. 99)
    • "[W]ar is always begun in the interest of the few, and at the expense of the many."
      -- Economic Sophisms - Second Series (p. 312)
    • "There are two principles that can never be reconciled - Liberty and Constraint."
      -- Harmonies of Political Economy - Book One (p. 447)

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  3. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    Given your difficulties with reading comprehension, you should certainly be wary about joining any English-speaking forum.

    You claimed that Suzanimal said you or your post was "obviously a tool of the state". That is simply not true. It is clear to anyone who reads what she actually said that she was just making a joke about math word-problems being "obviously a tool of the state". She said absolutely nothing at all about you or your post being "obviously a tool of the state". But apparently, you are so hypersensitive to criticism that you go looking for (and finding) insults where they simply do not exist.

    Given your demonstrated inability to understand what someone on this forum actually said, I am not much inclined to give credence to your anecdotes about what someone else on some other forum actually said. But even if those anecdotes are not a product of your hypersensitivity and/or reading-comprehension deficiencies, so what? If you are going to refuse to participate in a public Internet forum because there might be fools on it, then you are not going to be participating in any public Internet forums at all.

    And please do not presume to lecture us further about whether we are worthy of your august presence. I'll save you the trouble: we almost certainly are not ...
    I don't think I would want to be a member of any forum he wanted to join.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

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    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

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    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  5. #33
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    Ron Paul has spent his life trying to find the answer. I do the lessons from history. You do the guns on the streets battle plans civil war stuff. There is no ‘Yes we can’ or ‘MAGA.’ Obama and Trump are the end result and the obvious decline you’re witnessing. I think my initial reluctance to join was well founded and you’ve confirmed it. Saves my time and yours. Have a nice day, as they say.

  6. #34
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    We’ve all spent time on forums and I think we’ll all agree that the amount of gibberish on them isn’t worth the time, or effort. The vast majority of them are unfriendly places at best and no one wants to spend time fighting off the majority keyboard warriors and dumb or low-information crowd who frequent them.

    Anti Federalist for instance, has wasted nearly 15 years on a forum expecting an answer as to what America can do to recover. Obviously not the brightest bunny on the block, but one day might discover there is no answer. What he’s seeing is an irreversible decline. Obviously not a fan of RP articles. Similarly, Ocamm’s brain has struggled for nearly a decade to inform someone they can’t read, or their comprehension is lacking? The crowning glory of his wasted years as he substitutes for Suzanimal because he’s nothing else to say, or probably worth saying.

    What you have done is convince me to stay away from American forums. Perhaps in another 10 years you might discover why this forum is so dead and a graveyard of one liners. I’m generalizing of course and there will be good, friendly and intelligent people here, but I’m not getting that feeling from these guest posts.

    I would explain why being a Republic didn’t save you from Marxist Obama and what happened in a supposedly first-world society to produce clowns like Obama and Trump. The difference between socialism and socialist, or why and how the hard left were able to take over the Democrat party, bypassing the constitution. No, you don’t understand and it’s why you’re now ready to kill each other on the streets and wondering how it came to that.

    Don’t blame me for trying to find out the extent of weirdness on another American forum before I committed myself. Past tense and I’ll now leave you to argue amongst yourselves.

  7. #35
    English may not be my first language but @Danke says it is pretty good .
    Do something Danke

  8. #36
    Good riddance.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  9. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    We’ve all spent time on forums and I think we’ll all agree that the amount of gibberish on them isn’t worth the time, or effort. The vast majority of them are unfriendly places at best and no one wants to spend time fighting off the majority keyboard warriors and dumb or low-information crowd who frequent them.

    Anti Federalist for instance, has wasted nearly 15 years on a forum expecting an answer as to what America can do to recover. Obviously not the brightest bunny on the block, but one day might discover there is no answer. What he’s seeing is an irreversible decline. Obviously not a fan of RP articles. Similarly, Ocamm’s brain has struggled for nearly a decade to inform someone they can’t read, or their comprehension is lacking? The crowning glory of his wasted years as he substitutes for Suzanimal because he’s nothing else to say, or probably worth saying.

    What you have done is convince me to stay away from American forums. Perhaps in another 10 years you might discover why this forum is so dead and a graveyard of one liners. I’m generalizing of course and there will be good, friendly and intelligent people here, but I’m not getting that feeling from these guest posts.

    I would explain why being a Republic didn’t save you from Marxist Obama and what happened in a supposedly first-world society to produce clowns like Obama and Trump. The difference between socialism and socialist, or why and how the hard left were able to take over the Democrat party, bypassing the constitution. No, you don’t understand and it’s why you’re now ready to kill each other on the streets and wondering how it came to that.

    Don’t blame me for trying to find out the extent of weirdness on another American forum before I committed myself. Past tense and I’ll now leave you to argue amongst yourselves.
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    Frédéric Bastiat (1801-1850)

    • "When law and morality are in contradiction to each other, the citizen finds himself in the cruel alternative of either losing his moral sense, or of losing his respect for the law."
      -- The Law (p. 54)
    • "Government is that great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else."
      -- Government (p. 99)
    • "[W]ar is always begun in the interest of the few, and at the expense of the many."
      -- Economic Sophisms - Second Series (p. 312)
    • "There are two principles that can never be reconciled - Liberty and Constraint."
      -- Harmonies of Political Economy - Book One (p. 447)

    · tu ne cede malis sed contra audentior ito ·

  10. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    We’ve all spent time on forums and I think we’ll all agree that the amount of gibberish on them isn’t worth the time, or effort. The vast majority of them are unfriendly places at best and no one wants to spend time fighting off the majority keyboard warriors and dumb or low-information crowd who frequent them.

    Anti Federalist for instance, has wasted nearly 15 years on a forum expecting an answer as to what America can do to recover. Obviously not the brightest bunny on the block, but one day might discover there is no answer. What he’s seeing is an irreversible decline. Obviously not a fan of RP articles. Similarly, Ocamm’s brain has struggled for nearly a decade to inform someone they can’t read, or their comprehension is lacking? The crowning glory of his wasted years as he substitutes for Suzanimal because he’s nothing else to say, or probably worth saying.

    What you have done is convince me to stay away from American forums. Perhaps in another 10 years you might discover why this forum is so dead and a graveyard of one liners. I’m generalizing of course and there will be good, friendly and intelligent people here, but I’m not getting that feeling from these guest posts.

    I would explain why being a Republic didn’t save you from Marxist Obama and what happened in a supposedly first-world society to produce clowns like Obama and Trump. The difference between socialism and socialist, or why and how the hard left were able to take over the Democrat party, bypassing the constitution. No, you don’t understand and it’s why you’re now ready to kill each other on the streets and wondering how it came to that.

    Don’t blame me for trying to find out the extent of weirdness on another American forum before I committed myself. Past tense and I’ll now leave you to argue amongst yourselves.
    *Occam
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    This intellectually stimulating conversation is the reason I keep coming here.

  11. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Similarly, Ocamm’s brain has struggled for nearly a decade to inform someone they can’t read, or their comprehension is lacking? The crowning glory of his wasted years as he substitutes for Suzanimal because he’s nothing else to say, or probably worth saying.
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    Frédéric Bastiat (1801-1850)

    • "When law and morality are in contradiction to each other, the citizen finds himself in the cruel alternative of either losing his moral sense, or of losing his respect for the law."
      -- The Law (p. 54)
    • "Government is that great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else."
      -- Government (p. 99)
    • "[W]ar is always begun in the interest of the few, and at the expense of the many."
      -- Economic Sophisms - Second Series (p. 312)
    • "There are two principles that can never be reconciled - Liberty and Constraint."
      -- Harmonies of Political Economy - Book One (p. 447)

    · tu ne cede malis sed contra audentior ito ·

  12. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Anti Federalist for instance, has wasted nearly 15 years on a forum expecting an answer as to what America can do to recover. Obviously not the brightest bunny on the block, but one day might discover there is no answer. What he’s seeing is an irreversible decline. Obviously not a fan of RP articles. Similarly, Ocamm’s brain has struggled for nearly a decade to inform someone they can’t read, or their comprehension is lacking? The crowning glory of his wasted years as he substitutes for Suzanimal because he’s nothing else to say, or probably worth saying.
    Looks like we (or at least me, AF and maybe Suzanimal) are being sent to the Group W bench ...



    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    What you have done is convince me to stay away from American forums. Perhaps in another 10 years you might discover why this forum is so dead and a graveyard of one liners. I’m generalizing of course and there will be good, friendly and intelligent people here, but I’m not getting that feeling from these guest posts.

    I would explain why being a Republic didn’t save you from Marxist Obama and what happened in a supposedly first-world society to produce clowns like Obama and Trump. The difference between socialism and socialist, or why and how the hard left were able to take over the Democrat party, bypassing the constitution. No, you don’t understand and it’s why you’re now ready to kill each other on the streets and wondering how it came to that.

    Don’t blame me for trying to find out the extent of weirdness on another American forum before I committed myself. Past tense and I’ll now leave you to argue amongst yourselves.


    I guess we've dodged another Christopher A. Brown.

    But I kind of miss Christopher. At least he was funny (whether he intended to be or not) and he could definitely take the heat.

    Won't miss this guy, though. Unreg, we hardly knew ye ...
    Last edited by Occam's Banana; 02-09-2019 at 09:50 PM.
    The Bastiat Collection · FREE PDF · FREE EPUB · PAPER
    Frédéric Bastiat (1801-1850)

    • "When law and morality are in contradiction to each other, the citizen finds himself in the cruel alternative of either losing his moral sense, or of losing his respect for the law."
      -- The Law (p. 54)
    • "Government is that great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else."
      -- Government (p. 99)
    • "[W]ar is always begun in the interest of the few, and at the expense of the many."
      -- Economic Sophisms - Second Series (p. 312)
    • "There are two principles that can never be reconciled - Liberty and Constraint."
      -- Harmonies of Political Economy - Book One (p. 447)

    · tu ne cede malis sed contra audentior ito ·



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  14. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    Looks like we (or at least me, AF and maybe Suzanimal) are being sent to the Group W bench ...
    "Until I said...'and disturbing the peace' and they all came back to me on the bench there..."

  15. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    You are now witnessing a decline in a divided society in which Lincoln warned you that America will only be destroyed from within. Let’s see what response I get to this.
    Lincoln was a dick head.
    There...two sentences.
    All modern revolutions have ended in a reinforcement of the power of the State.
    -Albert Camus

  16. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by otherone View Post
    Lincoln was a dick head.
    There...two sentences.
    Hung more Indians than anyone , ever in Dankes home state which is heavily populated with unrepentant democratic socialists . Shudder.
    Last edited by oyarde; 12-09-2019 at 09:22 PM.
    Do something Danke

  17. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    In the past four years I’ve voluntarily exited two American run forums. The first tried to convince me that Obama was a returning Messiah and the current one that Trump was elected by divine intervention. I’ve met people that think Mozambique is a country off the coast of America and had to explain the difference between nationalism and patriotism to people slightly above the level of retardation, which apparently makes me a Nazi, or a communist depending which forum I was on. In between, I’ve had bucketfuls of constant insults, personal attacks, snide remarks and I’m sick of it!

    Now you tell me why I shouldn’t be wary about joining another American forum?

    Well, first things first. Welcome to the forum, John. Are you still in China? We have a few members here with China connections. At least one has a wife from there. Another guy named PaulConventionWV went there to teach. I see he hasn't been here for over one year. Anybody heard from Paul? My wife is from Philippines and I have spent a decent amount of time there.

    I find this place to be a fairly unique collection of sharp people. I've been here 8 years and have learned quite a bit. My views have actually shifted perceptibly since that time. I find Occam's Banana to be one of the sharpest people here, and you'd have your hands full debating him. I surely would not want to.

    I do think that some of the philosophical talk can get old because it gets rehashed over and over. The ivory tower talk often wears thin if there is too much, but you will find that people here do contribute money and run for office. Three such RPF members in politics are Clyde from Indiana and Brett Fairchild of Kansas , and Glenn Bradley from my very own North Carolina.

    Sorry if I missed anyone else in this group!



    You will also find that people here are unbelievably giving. They raise a lot of money when someone has some trouble. A great example is a guy here whose wife got cancer. Our very own Anti-Federalist often leads in prompting the contributions, but other people here do as well.

    I think what you are encountering in those other forums of which you speak is typical forum behavior. I've been booted off various forums multiple times, including Democratic Underground, Alipac, Stormfront, RevLeft, Yahoo Answers, Glock Talk, Debate Politics, Political Forum, Liberal Forum Dot Org, and many others. I can tell you some humorous stories from those sometime later. We also have our share of hijinks here because there are progressive trolls who are actually paid to post here. Some of us here like to troll these trolls!

    My mainstay is Yahoo Answers. I try to give researched advice to people on practical issues: joining (or actually not joining) the military/police, dealing with child protective services (CPS) petty tyrants, concealed carry, jury nullification, pig (police) roadblocks, vaccine exemptions, homework help, and other topics. I made a thread about it here.


    I think people here (and elsewhere) get very frustrated with the state of things. Our very own member H_H outlined five basic ways to promote liberty. I think I got this right when I list them:


    Move from your oppressive country or area
    Get involved politically
    Go underground and bypass the government
    Educate
    Be an agitator


    All those, of course, have advantages and disadvantages. I've done all those things at some point, but currently focus on two of them. I'm not moving anymore because I stopped running away from this. And, the place to which you move might change and become more oppressive. Bypassing the government is a good one, and a few people here are sometimes bold enough to mention ways they skirt statutes.

    So my suggestion is post your views, but also take the time to get to know people. It really is a unique and cool bunch of people here. I know it's tempting to jump into a new forum and unload one's views. I always suggest however, to listen first and talk second. It might sound corny, but I compare it to a new job. You first sit back to learn the landscape, and then you dig in later.

    Again, welcome to the forum.



    NCL

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    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
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    Zippy's posts are a great contribution.




    Disrupt, Deny, Deflate. Read the RPF trolls' playbook here (post #3): http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...eptive-members

  18. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Ron Paul has spent his life trying to find the answer. I do the lessons from history. You do the guns on the streets battle plans civil war stuff. There is no ‘Yes we can’ or ‘MAGA.’ Obama and Trump are the end result and the obvious decline you’re witnessing. I think my initial reluctance to join was well founded and you’ve confirmed it. Saves my time and yours. Have a nice day, as they say.

  19. #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    I thought I’d write a guest post first, introduce myself and see what reaction I get if and before I join. Here on the recommendation of PAF. I’m, Pork Pie, a Brit who emigrated to Asia in 2008. I’m an English and social science teacher who has worked in Russia and Thailand and just returned to SE Asia after many years of teaching in China. Obviously I don’t do activism because I’m not American; I explain and have no affiliations to anyone or anything. I was reading RP and people like him long before it became fashionable to do so and in my wanderings have lived and worked in societies led by replica Obama and Trump characters. So, as a starter let me summarize where it all went wrong.

    Once upon a time a man called Marx discovered something unique; that you could convince a population they’d share in a country’s wealth by believing politicians. In an age of monarchies and absolute destitution this wasn’t difficult, it caught on and the Soviet Union was born.

    A few years later, the Second International (Comintern) in 1922 sought to answer a question. If communism was so perfect, why weren’t European workers clamouring for it? The leading Marxist intellectuals of that era Hungarian György Lukács and Italian Antonio Gramsci set out to find the answer. On his return to Italy Gramsci was promptly arrested by Mussolini and put in prison as a danger to society, from where he wrote his famous (1929 – 1935) 'Prison notebooks.' Gramsci discovered where Marx had gone wrong, it wasn’t about class, but culture and cultural Marxism was born. Gramsci’s ‘Prison notebooks’ faded into obscurity. Post war Europe boomed, Reagan and Thatcher stopped the moves towards communism and it wasn’t until the 90s that the hard left re-discovered Gramsci.

    Many people in America have difficulty understanding the term 'cultural Marxism', so let’s use a term you’re familiar with - Identity politics. The new catalyst for the revolution became the minorities; the immigrants, the homosexuals, the feminists, the criminals … Gramsci realized that the way to the revolution was to demolish the traditional values of society, the main three being the breakdown of national identity (multiculturalism), introduce a plurality of religions (diversity) and destroy family values using feminism and the homosexual agenda (equality).

    What is termed 'The quiet revolution' began in Europe and spread to America. This entailed taking over the institutions and was a huge success. Bernie Sanders is not a socialist, he’s a Maoist. Hillary Clinton disguised as a Democrat is actually a radical Alinsky anarchist and Obama who brought you identity politics is about as American as a Chinese Mums apple pie! Their combined commonality is progressivism, a benevolent authoritarianism. But how did they change society? Colleges became Marxist centres of learning. Antifa became the latter day Red Guard and the BLM KGB took it upon itself to determine who was a racist or Nazi. The Internet began to provide information of European Union leaders who were in touch with aliens from outer space and in America, Satanic orgies in the basement of the White House and courtesy of Mr. Icke, we now know that shape shifting reptiles roam the earth …

    There are two types of thought. The first is based on beliefs; subjective thoughts in which there exists no right or wrong and so reality becomes whatever one wishes it to be. The second is based around reality and facts. Neither can disprove the other and would be similar to trying to discuss a maths question using English grammar.
    Into this belief system came Obama, marketed as a returning Messiah. Pelosi once famously remarked, "Economists agree that unemployment benefits remain one of the best ways to grow the economy in a very immediate way." Not to be outdone in subjective stupidity, Hillary replied that, "Let’s be clear: Islam is not our adversary. Muslims are peaceful and tolerant people and have nothing whatsoever to do with terrorism." Islam by the way is not a religion, it’s a 7th century ideology based on conquest and submission.

    And just when you thought it was all over … Along comes another Messiah, an extreme narcissist and arguably a sociopath named Mr. Trump who informs another set of believers that Mexico will pay for a wall, Hillary Clinton will be prosecuted and he alone will, "make America rich again."

    The reason Ron Paul and those like him sound so odd to many is that he’s trying to re-introduce reality back into a new age belief fixated society. I’ve lived through the collapse of the British Empire and the Soviet Union. I’ve also seen Russia and China abandon their previous nonsense and surge ahead, while the west regresses back to building socialist utopias. You are now witnessing a decline in a divided society in which Lincoln warned you that America will only be destroyed from within. Let’s see what response I get to this.
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  20. #47
    One of the great ironies - almost a paradox of sorts - of so-called "cultural marxism" is that its success roots in to desire of its stooges for freedom. The difference there is that they are fed a lopsided notion of what constitutes actual and proper human freedom. They want all the perceived benefits of freedom, but do not want to assume any of the costs.

    A vast plurality of so-called "millennials", for example, define "freedom" as being able to put their naughty bits anywhere they want, in any fashion they choose, with impunity, in fact demanding praise for their every perversion. They want the world to be "safe", and for it to taste like unicorn poo. They want want want, but are unwilling to give in return. They want respect, but refuse to return in kind.

    Theye have done their work very well and should be given due credit for diabolical efficiency. But don't give too much credit as they have the entropic nature of the human animal on their side. Once set to decay, a human being will not only do so of their own initiative, they become VERY difficult to stop - and I daresay they are unstoppable for all practical purposes, save perhaps once the spectre of imminent physical destruction looms before them, and even then...
    Last edited by osan; 12-05-2019 at 08:24 AM.
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    There is only one correct way: freedom. All other solutions are non-solutions.

    It appears that artificial intelligence is at least slightly superior to natural stupidity.

    Our words make us the ghosts that we are.

    Convincing the world he didn't exist was the Devil's second greatest trick; the first was convincing us that God didn't exist.

  21. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    What you have done is convince me to stay away from American forums. Perhaps in another 10 years you might discover why this forum is so dead and a graveyard of one liners. I’m generalizing of course and there will be good, friendly and intelligent people here, but I’m not getting that feeling from these guest posts.
    I'm your huckleberry.
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  23. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Oh for $#@!'s sake, another philosotarian that thinks he has had the all consuming brain flash, has had the revelation that leads to Grand Unification Theory of politics.

    Guess what? We all know that. My god, it's been discussed, thrashed about, debated and dead horse meat beaten into hamburger.

    Enough talk already.

    How about explaining how:

    A - Getting even a sizable minority of the fellow idiots all around us to understand and act on and vote on these principles and lessons from history.

    B - Lacking that, a battle plan to secede or take over.

    That's where the rubber meets the road fella, not in endless circle jerks of philosotarian navel gazing.

    Come up with some out of the box thinking to accomplish that, and I'll sit up and take notice.
    How about that...went to write what I already wrote...
    “Civilizations die from suicide, not by murder.” - Arnold Toynbee

  24. #50
    A - Getting even a sizable minority of the fellow idiots all around us to understand and act on and vote on these principles and lessons from history.
    $#@!, and I know the answer to that, have known it for years...just a matter of getting more than one to act on it.
    “Civilizations die from suicide, not by murder.” - Arnold Toynbee

  25. #51
    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    O Brother Occam, where art thou? Did you give up on this place too?
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

  26. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post

    Now you tell me why I shouldn’t be wary about joining another American forum?
    After re-reading the thread and your thoughts,, Why should any American Forum want you??

    What have you but the same tired spew we have heard before?
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom

  27. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    $#@!, and I know the answer to that, have known it for years...just a matter of getting more than one to act on it.
    both ends of the country,, Wa. and Va.

    Disarmament push is ON..
    Waiting for the inevitable conflict..

    current status; disarmed,,

    I ain't starting $#@!. I'm waiting for somebody to.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom

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