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  1. #271
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Only 35%?
    For starters, sorry should have clarified.

    We're being governed ruled by a geriatric Alzheimer patient/puppet whose strings are being pulled by an elitist oligarchy who believe they can manage the world... imagine the utter maniacal, sociopathic hubris!



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  3. #272
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I was thinking of the free ponies.
    We can give one to The Texan.

    We're being governed ruled by a geriatric Alzheimer patient/puppet whose strings are being pulled by an elitist oligarchy who believe they can manage the world... imagine the utter maniacal, sociopathic hubris!



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  5. #273
    Quote Originally Posted by Pauls' Revere View Post
    For starters, sorry should have clarified.
    That's what I thought.
    Spending is the real tax.
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  6. #274
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Historically people have migrated seeking work and freedom, trying to escape the clutches of government and oppressors.

    Poor or working people don’t travel thousands of miles to just conquer or take over another country.

    It is this government that forces “solutions”... taxation, centralized government and education, redistribution of wealth, encroachment of private property.

    It is the goal of the establishment to have us rewrite and abandon our principles.
    And in this case, they are coming here to suck off the government teat. What's worse, YOU KNOW THAT. Yet, here you are advocating for it.
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  7. #275
    Cut Welfare Programs yes , but also , cut / eliminate
    budgets for ;
    - - - - - - - - -Net Savings
    TSA , Eliminate 7 Billion annually
    NSA, Eliminate 10 Billion '' ''
    DHS Eliminate 40 Billion '' ''
    FBI Cut 60% 4 billion '' '' 6 bill remainder
    CIA Eliminate 40 Billion " ''
    Pent' Eliminate 500 Billion ''' ( allowed to 'disapear' 1.2 trillion/no penalty)
    FDA Cut 40% 20 Billion
    IRS Cut 90% 11 Billion '' '' ( reduce tax code to 15 pages)


    Edit; Always short of dashes
    Last edited by Stratovarious; 02-04-2019 at 07:34 AM.

  8. #276
    Quote Originally Posted by Stratovarious View Post
    Cut Welfare Programs yes , but also , cut / eliminate
    budgets for ;
    Net Savings
    TSA , Eliminate 7 Billion annually
    NSA, Eliminate 10 Billion '' ''
    DHS Eliminate 40 Billion '' ''
    FBI Cut 60% 4 billion '' '' 6 bill remainder
    CIA Eliminate 40 Billion " ''
    Pent' Eliminate 500 Billion ''' ( allowed to 'disapear' 1.2 trillion/no penalty)
    FDA Cut 40% 20 Billion
    IRS Cut 90% 11 Billion '' '' ( reduce tax code to 15 pages)

    Don't need a weather man to know which way the wind blows

  9. #277
    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
    And in this case, they are coming here to suck off the government teat. What's worse, YOU KNOW THAT. Yet, here you are advocating for it.

    A look at my posting history should clear some things up. I stand by my position.
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    The End of All Evil ~ Jeremy Locke (free PDF download)

  10. #278
    You people act like all immigration is coming from Mexico and parts south. Wake up and enjoy a dose of reality.

    China imports a lot of people both legally and illegally every year. With the Birthright Citizenship, there is kind of a baby tourism going on. You think that won’t come back to bite? Especially when you consider how much property Chinese business owns in the US. Plus they own most of our debt.

    What about people who are trying to immigrate legally from Europe, Africa, and Australia? They stay stuck in the system for years waiting for a green card or citizenship.

    Asia Bibi had to apply for asylum in Canada because the US denied her application. For those of you still asleep, she was jailed for blasphemy. She is Christian and would not convert to Islam.

    Stop making this a Latino problem and we might get somewhere. It is the whole system.
    Last edited by euphemia; 02-04-2019 at 08:54 AM.
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  11. #279
    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    You people act like all immigration is coming from Mexico and parts south. Wake up and enjoy a dose of reality.

    China imports a lot of people both legally and illegally every year. With the Birthright Citizenship, there is kind of a baby tourism going on. You think that won’t come back to bite? Especially when you consider how much property Chinese business owns in the US. Plus they own most of our debt.

    What about people who are trying to immigrate legally from Europe, Africa, and Australia? They stay stuck in the system for years waiting for a green card or citizenship.

    Asia Bibi had to apply for asylum in Canada because the US denied her application. For those of you still asleep, she was jailed for blasphemy. She is Christian and would not convert to Islam.

    Stop making this a Latino problem and we might get somewhere. It is the whole system.
    Exactly.

    If people looked around they would see that there is an influx of people all over the world, including many Ex-Pats from here in America.
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    The End of All Evil ~ Jeremy Locke (free PDF download)

  12. #280
    Immigration reform is desperately needed. Good people are being dragged away from airports in handcuffs because they overstay their visa by one day. In the meantime people stream across the southern borders with no documents at all.

    In the US, people who want to work have to be able to prove who they are and that they are eligible to work here. Coming with no documents, no English fluency, and low skills, they are not eligible to work. They can find jobs, but they will generally be day labor, domestic help, or field labor. Not exactly high paying jobs with benefits.
    Last edited by euphemia; 02-04-2019 at 09:19 AM.
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  14. #281
    Quote Originally Posted by Stratovarious View Post
    Cut Welfare Programs yes , but also , cut / eliminate
    budgets for ;
    - - - - - - - - -Net Savings
    TSA , Eliminate 7 Billion annually
    NSA, Eliminate 10 Billion '' ''
    DHS Eliminate 40 Billion '' ''
    FBI Cut 60% 4 billion '' '' 6 bill remainder
    CIA Eliminate 40 Billion " ''
    Pent' Eliminate 500 Billion ''' ( allowed to 'disapear' 1.2 trillion/no penalty)
    FDA Cut 40% 20 Billion
    IRS Cut 90% 11 Billion '' '' ( reduce tax code to 15 pages)


    Edit; Always short of dashes
    Good luck getting that done.
    ================
    Open Borders: A Libertarian Reappraisal or why only dumbasses and cultural marxists are for it.

    Cultural Marxism: The Corruption of America

    The Property Basis of Rights

  15. #282
    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
    Good luck getting that done.
    Good Luck with the Immigration or Abortion Political Footballs..

    They are used by both parties as leverage and NOTHING else. They have no intention of doing anything but playing the audience for personal gain.

    over 40 years and both parties and NOTHING has changed.

    find other solutions,, Because it has been Failure and Expense after failure and expense.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom

  16. #283
    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    You people act like all immigration is coming from Mexico and parts south. Wake up and enjoy a dose of reality.

    China imports a lot of people both legally and illegally every year. With the Birthright Citizenship, there is kind of a baby tourism going on. You think that won’t come back to bite? Especially when you consider how much property Chinese business owns in the US. Plus they own most of our debt.

    What about people who are trying to immigrate legally from Europe, Africa, and Australia? They stay stuck in the system for years waiting for a green card or citizenship.

    Asia Bibi had to apply for asylum in Canada because the US denied her application. For those of you still asleep, she was jailed for blasphemy. She is Christian and would not convert to Islam.

    Stop making this a Latino problem and we might get somewhere. It is the whole system.
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Exactly.

    If people looked around they would see that there is an influx of people all over the world, including many Ex-Pats from here in America.
    Who is making it just a latino problem?

    I don't care if they were all blond blue eyed Swedes.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  17. #284
    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    find other solutions,, Because it has been Failure and Expense after failure and expense.
    Dissolution and separation.

    When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

  18. #285
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Dissolution and separation.

    When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
    And then we must have harsh immigration policies or they will just flee their hellholes and infect our territory.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  19. #286
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Dissolution and separation.

    ]
    Possibly..
    I have no idea what form it will take. Economic Collapse?, Civil War?, Yellowstone Caldera?...

    But the US is going to be removed as a world power.. (and we never should have been)

    The best hope for Liberty will be local areas of like minded people.,, I expect a great number and diversity in Fiefdoms.

    I see no hope at all for Washington D C.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom

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