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    Bolton: We're Taking Venezuela's Oil

    Bolton: We're Taking Venezuela's Oil



    Yesterday, Trump's National Security Advisor John Bolton made the US position clear in a FoxNews interview: Washington will overthrow the Venezuelan government and take its oil for the benefit of US companies. This is "regime change" on steroids!
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    And Bill Maher's clapping seals are giddy to do it.

    Anyone who doesn't want to (like Ann Coulter) is evil, of course.



    Many, many -- most -- of these people were the exact same ones out in the streets screaming NO BLOOD FOR OIL!



    Does anyone still doubt the NPC meme?

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    Here's how they program the NPCs, by the way:


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    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/worl...-oil-1.3775682

    Maduro accuses US of trying to seize Venezuela’s oil

    President says Trump risks turning country into ‘new Vietnam’ ahead of further protests

    Venezuela’s president, Nicolás Maduro, has accused Donald Trump and a “group of extremists around him” of plotting to topple him in order to seize Venezuela’s oil, and warned he risked transforming the South American country into a new Vietnam.

    In a four-minute Facebook video – published as Venezuela prepared on Wednesday for a day of fresh pro-opposition protests – Mr Maduro claimed the leaders of the US “empire” were conspiring “to get their hands on our oil – just like they did in Iraq and in Libya”.

    Unable to accuse Venezuela’s government of stockpiling weapons of mass destruction, they were instead waging a media campaign of fake news to justify intervening in a country that boasts the world’s biggest crude reserves, Mr Maduro claimed.

    “We will not allow a Vietnam in Latin America. If the US intends to intervene against us they will get a Vietnam worse than they could have imagined. We do not allow violence. We are a peaceful people,” Venezuela’s embattled leftist leader added.

    “I ask that Venezuela be respected and I ask for the support of the people of the US so there isn’t a new Vietnam, least of all here in our America.”

    ‘Admirer’

    In the video, Mr Maduro painted himself as an “admirer” of the US who had visited Boston, Philadelphia, Baltimore, New York and Washington and wanted closer relations with the White House. “The United States is so much bigger than Donald Trump, so much bigger,” he said.

    But Mr Maduro looks unlikely to repair relations with the Trump administration, which has thrown its full weight behind his rival to the presidency, Juan Guaidó.

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    The Making of Juan Guaido: How the US Regime Change Laboratory Created Venezuela's Coup Leader
    By Dan Cohen and Max Blumenthal

    Before the fateful day of January 22, fewer than one in five Venezuelans had heard of Juan Guaidó. Only a few months ago, the 35-year-old was an obscure character in a politically marginal far-right group closely associated with gruesome acts of street violence. Even in his own party, Guaidó had been a mid-level figure in the opposition-dominated National Assembly, which is now held under contempt according to Venezuela’s constitution.

    But after a single phone call from from US Vice President Mike Pence, Guaidó proclaimed himself as president of Venezuela. Anointed as the leader of his country by Washington, a previously unknown political bottom dweller was vaulted onto the international stage as the US-selected leader of the nation with the world’s largest oil reserves.

    Echoing the Washington consensus, the New York Times editorial board hailed Guaidó as a “credible rival” to Maduro with a “refreshing style and vision of taking the country forward.” The Bloomberg News editorial board applauded him for seeking “restoration of democracy” and the Wall Street Journal declared him “a new democratic leader.” Meanwhile, Canada, numerous European nations, Israel, and the bloc of right-wing Latin American governments known as the Lima Group recognized Guaidó as the legitimate leader of Venezuela.

    While Guaidó seemed to have materialized out of nowhere, he was, in fact, the product of more than a decade of assiduous grooming by the US government’s elite regime change factories. Alongside a cadre of right-wing student activists, Guaidó was cultivated to undermine Venezuela’s socialist-oriented government, destabilize the country, and one day seize power. Though he has been a minor figure in Venezuelan politics, he had spent years quietly demonstrated his worthiness in Washington’s halls of power.
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    Guaidó is known as the president of the opposition-dominated National Assembly, but he was never elected to the position. The four opposition parties that comprised the Assembly’s Democratic Unity Table had decided to establish a rotating presidency. Popular Will’s turn was on the way, but its founder, Lopez, was under house arrest. Meanwhile, his second-in-charge, Guevara, had taken refuge in the Chilean embassy. A figure named Juan Andrés Mejía would have been next in line but reasons that are only now clear, Juan Guaido was selected.

    “There is a class reasoning that explains Guaidó’s rise,” Sequera, the Venezuelan analyst, observed. “Mejía is high class, studied at one of the most expensive private universities in Venezuela, and could not be easily marketed to the public the way Guaidó could. For one, Guaidó has common mestizo features like most Venezuelans do, and seems like more like a man of the people. Also, he had not been overexposed in the media, so he could be built up into pretty much anything.”

    In December 2018, Guaidó sneaked across the border and junketed to Washington, Colombia and Brazil to coordinate the plan to hold mass demonstrations during the inauguration of President Maduro. The night before Maduro’s swearing-in ceremony, both Vice President Mike Pence and Canadian Foreign Minister Chrystia Freeland called Guaidó to affirm their support.

    A week later, Sen. Marco Rubio, Sen. Rick Scott and Rep. Mario Diaz-Balart – all lawmakers from the Florida base of the right-wing Cuban exile lobby – joined President Trump and Vice President Pence at the White House. At their request, Trump agreed that if Guaidó declared himself president, he would back him.

    Secretary of State Mike Pompeo met personally with Guaidó on January 10, according to the Wall Street Journal. However, Pompeo could not pronounce Guaidó’s name when he mentioned him in a press briefing on January 25, referring to him as “Juan Guido.”
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    At a press conference before supporters four days later, Guaidó announced his solution to the crisis: “Authorize a humanitarian intervention!”

    While he waits on direct assistance, Guaidó remains what he has always been – a pet project of cynical outside forces. “It doesn’t matter if he crashes and burns after all these misadventures,” Sequera said of the coup figurehead. “To the Americans, he is expendable.”
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    More: http://ronpaulinstitute.org/archives...s-coup-leader/
    This article was referenced by Daniel McAdams in this episode of Liberty Report.
    Last edited by Brian4Liberty; 01-30-2019 at 05:49 PM.
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    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The Making of Juan Guaido: How the US Regime Change Laboratory Created Venezuela's Coup Leader
    By Dan Cohen and Max Blumenthal



    This article was referenced by Daniel McAdams in this episode of Liberty Report.
    Nothing to see here, besides, Madura is a commie so our guy has to be better. Time to spread some freedom baby.
    "The Patriarch"

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    Thy will great us as heros, and they will pay for the entire operation with their oil.
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The Making of Juan Guaido: How the US Regime Change Laboratory Created Venezuela's Coup Leader
    By Dan Cohen and Max Blumenthal



    This article was referenced by Daniel McAdams in this episode of Liberty Report.
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    Nothing to see here, besides, Madura is a commie so our guy has to be better. Time to spread some freedom baby.
    For some reason, this Juan Guaido sounds like the Venezuelan version of Evan McMuffin. CIA connected, with the same neocon backers.

    Imagine this: “Russia declares opposition leader Evan McMuffin to be the true President of the US. He truly represents the people. US assets have been seized and will be handed over to McMuffin.”
    Last edited by Brian4Liberty; 01-30-2019 at 09:37 PM.
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    For some reason, this Juan Guaido sounds like the Venezuelan version of Evan McMuffin. CIA connected, with the same neocon backers.

    Imagine this: “Russia declares opposition leader Evan McMuffin to be the true President of the US. He truly represents the people. US assets have been seized and will be handed over to McMuffin.”
    "The Patriarch"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Thy will great us as heros, and they will pay for the entire operation with their oil.
    The point remains, we didn't take the oil. So the left needs a new talking point here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    For some reason, this Juan Guaido sounds like the Venezuelan version of Evan McMuffin. CIA connected, with the same neocon backers.

    Imagine this: “Russia declares opposition leader Evan McMuffin to be the true President of the US. He truly represents the people. US assets have been seized and will be handed over to McMuffin.”
    When was McMuffin elected Speaker of the House?

    I hate video but I'm done typing the same things over and over.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_co...&v=bEvHwiJWgAY

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    When was McMuffin elected Speaker of the House?

    I hate video but I'm done typing the same things over and over.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_co...&v=bEvHwiJWgAY
    The good news is her description of how Guaido got into his position does not conflict with the article referenced above. She called him interim, which suffices:

    Guaidó is known as the president of the opposition-dominated National Assembly, but he was never elected to the position. The four opposition parties that comprised the Assembly’s Democratic Unity Table had decided to establish a rotating presidency. Popular Will’s turn was on the way, but its founder, Lopez, was under house arrest. Meanwhile, his second-in-charge, Guevara, had taken refuge in the Chilean embassy. A figure named Juan Andrés Mejía would have been next in line but reasons that are only now clear, Juan Guaido was selected.
    Maybe Adam Schiff rotating into the Speakership would be a better example, if you prefer.

    I don’t know what is going on in Venezuela. That is one of many reasons for a non-interference standpoint. As far as her description of the internal situation there, you never know. I’ve never heard of her. I take everything with a grain of salt.
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The good news is her description of how Guaido got into his position does not conflict with the article referenced above. She called him interim, which suffices:

    Maybe Adam Schiff rotating into the Speakership would be a better example, if you prefer.

    I don’t know what is going on in Venezuela. That is one of many reasons for a non-interference standpoint. As far as her description of the internal situation there, you never know. I’ve never heard of her. I take everything with a grain of salt.
    Nancy Pelosi wasn't elected directly to the Speaker position, either. Guaido was elected the parliament several years ago, then the parliament voted him to their #1 chair this year. So if Trump had canceled an election, thrown out the House, and then created a new House filled with only with people that supported him, is it really all that far-fetched to believe that some of the world would refuse to recognize his legitimacy?


    I have actually had an abnormal fascination with Venezuela for a couple of years now. Their constitutional ability to cancel and reschedule elections is beyond my grasp though.

    Here's a post that IMHO outlines why Maduro is in such trouble on the world stage at the moment http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...=1#post6744131

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    Chester Copperpot
    Member

    i cant believe the conversation on this thread.. people debating over which type of $#@! tastes better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chester Copperpot View Post
    i cant believe the conversation on this thread.. people debating over which type of $#@! tastes better.
    Yep- welcome to certain forum members idea of "spreading freedom."
    There is no spoon.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Chester Copperpot View Post
    i cant believe the conversation on this thread.. people debating over which type of $#@! tastes better.
    Neocon puppet or communist authoritarian. Amazing that no matter where you go, they can force it down to those two choices.
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.



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