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    U.S. and Taliban negotiators have made progress toward a draft agreement that includes a U.S. troop withdrawal from Afghanistan and a Taliban pledge to counter terrorism as both sides concluded their fifth round of talks in Doha, U.S. special envoy to Afghanistan Zalmay Khalilzad announced via Twitter on March 12.

    More at: https://worldview.stratfor.com/situa...th-round-talks
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    The fifth round of negotiations in Qatar taking place between the US and Taliban negotiators recently concluded, and it was the most fruitful round yet. They have reached an “agreement in draft” regarding certain key issues.
    U.S. Special Representative for Afghanistan Reconciliation Zalmay Khalilzad announced the good news in a series of Twitter posts:

    (1/4) Just finished a marathon round of talks with the Taliban in #Doha. The conditions for #peace have improved. It’s clear all sides want to end the war. Despite ups and downs, we kept things on track and made real strides.
    — U.S. Special Representative Zalmay Khalilzad (@US4AfghanPeace) March 12, 2019
    (2/4) Peace requires agreement on four issues: counter-terrorism assurances, troop withdrawal, intra-Afghan dialogue, and a comprehensive ceasefire. In January talks, we “agreed in principle” on these four elements. We’re now “agreed in draft” on the first two.


    — U.S. Special Representative Zalmay Khalilzad (@US4AfghanPeace) March 12, 2019
    (3/4) When the agreement in draft about a withdrawal timeline and effective counterterrorism measures is finalized, the Taliban and other #Afghans, including the government, will begin intra-Afghan negotiations on a political settlement and comprehensive ceasefire.
    — U.S. Special Representative Zalmay Khalilzad (@US4AfghanPeace) March 12, 2019
    (4/4) My next step is discussions in Washington and consultations with other partners. We will meet again soon, and there is no final agreement until everything is agreed.
    — U.S. Special Representative Zalmay Khalilzad (@US4AfghanPeace) March 12, 2019
    The progress is flying in the face of what warmongering neoconservatives, who formed the foreign policy consensus during the George W. Bush administration, have been saying about Trump’s engagement of the Taliban.
    “If you tell the Taliban that we are absolutely leaving on date certain, cutting down, weakening ourselves, their incentives to try to cut a deal drop dramatically,” said disgraced former Gen. Stanley McChrystal, who led wars during the Bush and Obama administrations, on ABC’s “This Week” last year

    “The notion that we’re somehow going to have a negotiated deal with the Taliban, that we can take their word that they won’t allow al Qaeda to have safe havens again, is, in my view, irresponsible,” Rep. Liz Cheney (R-WY) said to Jake Tapper of CNN last month
    “While it is tempting to retreat to the comfort and security of our own shores, there is still a great deal of work to be done,” Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-KY) said about the possibility of withdrawal. “And we know that left untended, these conflicts will reverberate in our own cities.”
    Even Trump’s own national security adviser John Bolton looks like a buffoon for his previous predictions regarding US engagement of the Taliban.
    “The lesson for us is that we need to be there much longer than we were in the case of Iraq. We see chaos there, and I think if the administration continues to push for withdrawal from Afghanistan, we will see chaos there,” Bolton said during an appearance on FOX News in 2014.


    The whining of these GOP dinosaurs only deepens the chasm between the Republican Party of Bush and the new Republican Party of Trump. The policies of engagement – whether happening with the Taliban in Afghanistan or Kim Jong-un in North Korea – are yielding encouraging results, and the days of the US empire serving as the world’s policeman may be coming to an end as a result.


    More at: https://bigleaguepolitics.com/trumps...-breakthrough/
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    Very hopeful indeed.

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    To be devil's advocate, if US taxpayesr funded troops left Iraq and Afghanistan , how else can Iran be surrounded from both sides?

    It's fashionable lately among America-Frst purists to call for ending foreign interventions and for troops from Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria etc to be brought home but can America continue current progress without militarily supporting our closest allies abroad?

    https://twitter.com/cufi/status/1004143362285457408





    Following article by respected neoconservative Dennis Prager is few years old but threat of extremist radicalization in mideast still exists and our allies are still vulnerable.

    This news is from yesterday:

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    The Immorality of Leaving Iraq and Afghanistan

    By Dennis Prager

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2014/...dennis-prager/

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    Afghanistan summoned a senior Pakistani diplomat on Saturday to account for remarks by Prime Minister Imran Khan speculating about a new government in Kabul following a possible peace settlement.The summons by the Afghan foreign affairs ministry marked the second time in just over three weeks that Kabul has demanded an explanation from Pakistan, illustrating the longstanding tensions between the two neighbours at a sensitive time.
    Khan, at a rally in Bajaur, in northwestern Pakistan on Friday, predicted "mutual peace" in Afghanistan as an outcome of recurring talks between the United States and the Taliban to end the country's 17-year-old war.
    "A good government will come in Afghanistan," Khan said. "I mean a government will come in which all will be represented. War will end and there will be peace."
    The Afghan ministry summoned Pakistan's counsellor to clarify the remarks, spokesperson Sibghatullah Ahmadi tweeted.
    "Afghanistan expressed its grave objection on Pakistan's government and deemed such remarks a flagrant interference in its internal affairs," he said.
    In February, the ministry summoned Pakistani ambassador Zahid Nasrullah Khan over his remarks that Afghan peace talks could be affected if India resorted to violence against Pakistan.

    More at: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/kabul...170233810.html
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

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    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Afghan national security adviser Hamdullah Mohib is no longer welcome in Washington after he criticized Kabul's exclusion from peace talks between Washington and the Taliban, U.S. Undersecretary of State for Political Affairs David Hale has informed Afghan President Ashraf Ghani, Reuters reported March 18.

    More at: https://worldview.stratfor.com/situa...on-after-peace
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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