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    Exclamation Bernie Sanders to make it official: running for president in 2020.

    Bernie Sanders set to announce 2020 presidential run

    https://news.yahoo.com/bernie-sander...234647684.html

    Hunter Walker White House Correspondent,Yahoo News•January 25, 2019

    WASHINGTON—Three years after fighting a surprisingly competitive Democratic primary race against Hillary Clinton, Sen. Bernie Sanders, the Vermont independent, is making another run for the White House.

    Two sources with direct knowledge of his plans told Yahoo News that Sanders, an independent and self-described “democratic socialist,” plans to announce his presidential bid imminently. While Sanders has been considering a bid for months, one of the sources said he was emboldened by early polls of the race that have consistently showed him as one of the top candidates in a crowded Democratic primary field. In particular, the source said Sanders was heartened to see numbers indicating he is one of the leading candidates among African American and Latino voters, two groups he was perceived as struggling with in 2016.

    The source also alluded to a spate of recent polls that show Sanders as the most popular politician in the country. They attributed Sanders’ strength in the polls to the base and name recognition he built with the prior presidential bid.

    “What the senator has this time that he didn’t have last time is he is the most popular elected official in the country right now,” the source said. “That’s light years away from 2016, when very few people knew who he was.”

    A third source said Sanders’ bid will begin with an exploratory committee. Sanders’ campaign did not immediately respond to a request for comment for this story.

    In addition to these two sources, a former Sanders staffer who had not been briefed on the imminent announcement plans nevertheless said many recent signs suggest he is set to pull the trigger on a presidential campaign. Specifically, the former staffer said Sanders has been building out the infrastructure he would need for a White House bid.

    “He’s already talking to staff and there are people he’s hiring. They’re nailing down contracts with vendors. … All the movement is there for him to run,” the ex-staffer said.

    Although Sanders was ultimately defeated by Clinton last time around, his upstart campaign reshaped the Democratic Party. Sanders ran on a progressive platform that included a focus on eliminating income inequality, on campaign finance reform and an ambitious “Medicare for All” health care proposal. Those principles have become centerpieces for the progressive wing of the Democratic Party, and several Sanders-backed candidates won elections last year.

    But Sanders’ impact on the Democratic Party went beyond his political vision. The primary battle between Sanders and Clinton was contentious, with Sanders allies contending that Clinton’s campaign was working in conjunction with the Democratic Party establishment to prevent a Sanders victory. These battles cemented divisions in this party that linger on as the 2020 election approaches.

    After President Trump’s victory over Clinton in 2016, Sanders and his allies pressed for reforms to the Democratic National Committee that would make the party’s primary process more open and inclusive of what Sanders termed “the working people and young people of our country.”

    Amid Sanders’ push for reform, the DNC assembled a “unity commission” to recommend changes that included members chosen by both Sanders and Clinton. Ultimately, the DNC made rules changes that included one of the main items on Sanders’ agenda, curbing the role of unelected superdelegates in choosing the party’s presidential nominee. At the same time, the DNC also adopted a rules change that would make it more difficult for independents like Sanders to seek the party’s presidential nomination.

    In spite of this, Sanders’ allies consider that this new rule does not hurt his chances, because the Vermont Democratic Party passed a resolution last year recognizing him as a full member. A source who discussed Sanders’ 2020 plans with Yahoo News confirmed that he will be running as a Democrat.

    Although he will be entering an extremely crowded Democratic field, Sanders is starting from a formidable position. Early polls of the race have consistently showed him to be one of the top candidates, probably due to the base of support he established in 2016. Sanders allies also believe his prior run could give him a head start organizing in key early primary states. Last October, Pete D’Alessandro, Sanders’s Iowa state coordinator for the 2016 race, told Yahoo News he was confident the senator would be able to build on the grassroots support and infrastructure he established in 2016 if he made another run.

    “This was a movement. It still is a movement,” D’Alessandro said.



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    I'd say hes too old to run but Ron was the same age as him back in 2012.
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    Looooool, dis gon be gud.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    I'd say hes too old to run but Ron was the same age as him back in 2012.
    Ron was fit and healthy. This goon? I wouldn't say that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    Ron was fit and healthy. This goon? I wouldn't say that.
    Of course the guys not healthy. The man believes in socialism. Thats a sign hes mentally ill.
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    Sanders/Warren 2020

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Sanders/Warren 2020
    Their logo will be a hammer and sickle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    Their logo will be a hammer and sickle.
    Tomahawk and sickle.
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    This is the predictable reaction to the last election.

    Idiots
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    Bet you he gets screwed out of the nomination again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    Bet you he gets screwed out of the nomination again.
    I agree.
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    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

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    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Bernie/Huma, the fusion ticket.



    Fusion ticket 2020, Bernie Sanders & Huma Abedin. Mike Pence will be neutered in the VP debate.
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    So this helps reinforce why Warren and/or Gabbard are running. To dilute the Bernie voters and reduce his odds of winning thus aiding Kamala Harris/Joe Biden, whomever the corporate Democrat front runner will be. They can't heap all of their socialist votes into one pile like last time, they would have to do extensive rigging again to compensate.

    And the side benefit of popularizing socialism/communism to the youth. Win win in the effort to destroy western culture.

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    Sanders/Ocasio-Cortez

    Unless this is strategy to boost Clinton to the top.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    Bet you he gets screwed out of the nomination again.
    If the Democrats were smart they would have a real competition. If they actually had a field of at least 6 candidates and let the voters decide, they might get a decent candidate that could compete with Trump. I doubt that they we be smart and I doubt that Bernie would win in a 6 way field.
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    Bernie Sanders kicks out journalist recognized as being conservative from his "free and open to the public event" campaign event



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    Now it comes out that hes a millionaire. I always knew Bernie wasn't stupid enough to believe his communist bull$#@!. He only does so in order to get the votes from the economy illiterate and angry lazy low informations voters.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Sanders/Warren 2020
    Sanders/Gabbard

    Fight for $15, RedforEd and Medicare for all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    Now it comes out that hes a millionaire. I always knew Bernie wasn't stupid enough to believe his communist bull$#@!. He only does so in order to get the votes from the economy illiterate and angry lazy low informations voters.

    Nothing in his democratic socialist platform contradicts him being a millionaire. He was the rich to pay more taxes and govt sponsored health care system. Also, he is not a communist, where do u get your information from?
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    Trust principles; not people.
    My Che avatar is my unique way of giving a big middle finger to the, the neocons, the globalists, imperialists and most importantly to the left and right political establishment who hate his guts till this day. My admiration for him ends where his anti imperialist pro communism ideology starts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    Nothing in his democratic socialist platform contradicts him being a millionaire. He was the rich to pay more taxes and govt sponsored health care system. Also, he is not a communist, where do u get your information from?
    https://nypost.com/2016/01/16/dont-b...ard-communist/

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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    Nothing in his democratic socialist platform contradicts him being a millionaire. He was the rich to pay more taxes and govt sponsored health care system. Also, he is not a communist, where do u get your information from?
    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archiv...-communist.php

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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    Nothing in his democratic socialist platform contradicts him being a millionaire. He was the rich to pay more taxes and govt sponsored health care system. Also, he is not a communist, where do u get your information from?
    Know what? Here... Tired of proving these things...

    https://lite.qwant.com/?q=Bernie+san...ent=opensearch

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    Quote Originally Posted by ATruepatriot View Post
    Know what? Here... Tired of proving these things...

    https://lite.qwant.com/?q=Bernie+san...ent=opensearch
    More like, tired to posting links as a reply. Show me the proof that he is a communist, I am sure there is a paragraph from one of those articles that has the proof to Bernie being a communist. I hope your next reply will be you posting said link.

    Going a little bit of economic logic, Bernie says he wants to implement the Scandinavia economic system, most people on this site deny that they have a socialist system. Following that logic, Bernie is not even a socialist
    You can maintain power over people, as long as you give them something. Rob a man of everything, and that man will no longer be in your power. Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
    Trust principles; not people.
    My Che avatar is my unique way of giving a big middle finger to the, the neocons, the globalists, imperialists and most importantly to the left and right political establishment who hate his guts till this day. My admiration for him ends where his anti imperialist pro communism ideology starts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    More like, tired to posting links as a reply. Show me the proof that he is a communist, I am sure there is a paragraph from one of those articles that has the proof to Bernie being a communist. I hope your next reply will be you posting said link.

    Going a little bit of economic logic, Bernie says he wants to implement the Scandinavia economic system, most people on this site deny that they have a socialist system. Following that logic, Bernie is not even a socialist
    ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Bernie Sanders’ “honeymoon” in Communist Russia is only part of a life-long love affair with communist regimes: Soviet Russia, Castro’s Cuba, Sandinista-run Nicaragua, and the Chavez-Maduro dictatorship in Venezuela.

    Senator Bernie Sanders naked? Bernie Sanders drunk? Bernie Sanders on honeymoon in the Soviet Union? Socialist heartthrob Bernie Sanders singing songs with vodka-swilling Commie Russians? All on one video?
    Well, this is a story of yes and maybe yes/maybe no. Yes, a video (see embedded below) has surfaced of Bernie’s “strange honeymoon” (those are his words) in the Soviet Union in 1988 with his second wife, Jane O’Meara Driscoll. The video was released, reportedly, by fellow Democrats who are supporters of new Dem heartthrob Robert “Beto” O’Rourke, which has touched off flamethrower exchanges between Bern and Beto devotees.

    Does the video show Bernie naked? Maybe, maybe not; what it does show is Vermont’s most famous avowed socialist naked from the waist up, sitting at a long table with about a dozen other men and women similarly undressed, although the women in the camera’s view are wearing sleeveless shirts or some kind of skimpy tops. Some descriptions of the video say that Sanders and the other men are wearing “briefs,” apparently referring to underwear. Hmm, maybe; it does look like one of the men is wearing white briefs, or maybe gym shorts or swimming trunks. It’s difficult to tell about Bernie, as the camera angle doesn’t allow us to get an unambiguous view of his lower half. (Not that this viewer would have any interest in viewing that part of his anatomy, mind you, just saying — in the interests of settling the issue of “naked” Bernie tying one on with his Soviet comrades.) You watch it and decide.
    What about “drunk” Bernie? It does appear that Bernie and the comrades in the video are at least in the “tipsy” range, but since the clip is fairly short and we don’t have any blood alcohol reading, a verdict on our part would be subjective and inconclusive.
    So, did Bernie and the gang just come in from the beach or hot tub? Or were they playing strip poker? Or getting ready for an orgy maybe? We have contacted Senator Sanders by e-mail seeking answers to questions about his Russian honeymoon excursion, but have not received a response thus far. The establishment media, naturally, has ignored the Bernie-Russia video completely. Yes, the same Fake News media that was all over the fake “Steele dossier” that alleged Donald Trump was involved in lurid sexcapades in Moscow has no interest in Bernie’s Russian adventures.




    Recall that President Trump’s detractors in Congress and the press speculated, on the basis of the bogus Steele evidence, that Trump had been sexually “compromised” by Putin’s intelligence agents. Well, Bernie’s visit to the Soviet Union was undoubtedly scripted start to finish by the KGB. That’s how things were done in Soviet Russia, and compromising/recruiting foreign visitors (with sex, drugs, bribes) was standard operating procedure. (As a side note, Vladimir Putin was an officer in the KGB when Sanders made his pilgrimage to the USSR).
    Yet, the Fake News media, which have been obsessed with promoting the Mueller investigation and breathlessly reporting each new development (with still no evidence of Trump-Russia collusion), have ignored completely the Bernie Sanders Russia video. It’s not just the titillating “naked, drunk” aspect of the video that is newsworthy. Sanders and comrades can be seen singing a Soviet song and then breaking into a round of “This Land Is Your Land,” the most famous song created by communist singer/activist Woody Guthrie.
    On his return from the Soviet Union, Bernie and his Vermont traveling companions held a press conference (see video below) that was essentially a propaganda forum promoting the Soviet government’s line on “peace.” This was, keep in mind, the same time during which the Soviet Union was still operating its vast Gulag system of slave labor/death camps, still carrying out its genocidal occupation of Afghanistan, still supporting Castro’s Cuba and the Sandinista revolution in Nicaragua, still occupying the Baltic States, still supporting and training the PLO and other terrorist groups — in short, still sponsoring war, revolution, and terror worldwide.




    Jenny Singer, writing in The Forward, a New York-based left-wing Jewish newspaper/website, treated the Sanders-Soviet visit as a big nothingburger, and the release of the video as an “attempted smear.”
    “It’s true,” Singer wrote, “that in 1988 Bernie and Jane Sanders spent time in the Soviet Union immediately after their wedding, but Sanders was the mayor of Burlington at the time, and the trip, to Burlington’s Soviet sister city, Yaroslavl, was a part of his official duties. Sanders wrote openly about it in his memoir, jokingly referring to it as a ‘honeymoon.’”
    Other Bernie defenders, apparently taking a cue from Singer, have parroted her line that Mayor Bernie was merely carrying out his “official duties.” What they don’t mention is that it was Mayor Bernie Sanders and his fellow Sanderistas on the Burlington City Council that pushed through the Burlington-Yaroslavl Sister City program, thus creating the “official duty” of visiting the USSR, a duty to which they dutifully, cheerfully responded.
    In a review of Sanders’ 1998 book Outsider in the House, an NBC article by Alex Seitz-Wald noted: “Sanders honeymooned in the USSR. Sanders married his current wife, Jane, in May of 1988 and the next day left for their ‘romantic honeymoon’ to Yaroslavl, in the then-Soviet Union. The trip was an official delegation from Burlington to cement the two cities’ sister-city relationship. ‘Trust me. It was a very strange honeymoon,’ Sanders writes. He also visited Cuba with Jane in 1989 and tried to meet with Fidel Castro, but it didn’t work out and he met with the mayor of Havana and other officials instead.”
    Several years earlier, in 1985, Sanders journeyed to Nicaragua to embrace Daniel Ortega and the Communist Sandinista revolution. A video interview with him expressing his enthusiastic support for the brutal Sandinista regime can be viewed here.
    Trevor Loudon’s Keywiki site entry on Senator Sanders provides many more details on his life-long pro-communist career, including his extended stay in 1963 working at the Stalinist, pro-Soviet Kibbutz Sha’ar Ha’amakim, near Haifa in northern Israel; his 1985 visit to Nicaragua and meeting with communist dictator Daniel Ortega; his relations with Venezuelan dictator Hugo Chavez and Venezuela’s Citgo Oil company; praise and endorsements for Sanders from top Communist Party officials and activists; his 99-percent rating from the Institute for Policy Studies (IPS), a radical Marxist “think tank” with ties to the Soviet KGB and Cuban DGI; and much more.

    More at: https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnew...oviet-comrades
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    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

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    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    More like, tired to posting links as a reply. Show me the proof that he is a communist, I am sure there is a paragraph from one of those articles that has the proof to Bernie being a communist. I hope your next reply will be you posting said link.

    Going a little bit of economic logic, Bernie says he wants to implement the Scandinavia economic system, most people on this site deny that they have a socialist system. Following that logic, Bernie is not even a socialist
    I just gave you pages and pages...

    If you insist... LINKS!

    https://www.thenewamerican.com/world...in-scandinavia

    https://thelibertarianrepublic.com/s...dise-debunked/

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Debunking-U.../dp/1944229396

    http://socialismtoday.info/blog/2018...dise-debunked/

    https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/...oIN/story.html

    https://fee.org/articles/the-myth-of...ian-socialism/

    Need more?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    ...
    Just for the record, I am naked from the sleeves down. What did I just read? nothing about policy just that he visited and was nice to some communist leaders. Trump is nice to Putin, I am sure that means he is pro Russia right? Sorry but this is not how it works, you say Sanders is a communist, you have to show me evidence other than him being nice to communists and vacationing in Russia to convince me.

    He is NOT a communist
    You can maintain power over people, as long as you give them something. Rob a man of everything, and that man will no longer be in your power. Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
    Trust principles; not people.
    My Che avatar is my unique way of giving a big middle finger to the, the neocons, the globalists, imperialists and most importantly to the left and right political establishment who hate his guts till this day. My admiration for him ends where his anti imperialist pro communism ideology starts.

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    Oh look, I ask for a concise evidence and he comes back with more links. And look, one of them is a $16 book. Folks, this is how hard it is for him to show me that Bernie is a communist. I am afraid to keep asking cos I have a feeling you might come back with a multi volume, multi edition book reading assignment. Post the relevant part of the article, book, lecture etc etc and I will read it.
    You can maintain power over people, as long as you give them something. Rob a man of everything, and that man will no longer be in your power. Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
    Trust principles; not people.
    My Che avatar is my unique way of giving a big middle finger to the, the neocons, the globalists, imperialists and most importantly to the left and right political establishment who hate his guts till this day. My admiration for him ends where his anti imperialist pro communism ideology starts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    Just for the record, I am naked from the sleeves down. What did I just read? nothing about policy just that he visited and was nice to some communist leaders. Trump is nice to Putin, I am sure that means he is pro Russia right? Sorry but this is not how it works, you say Sanders is a communist, you have to show me evidence other than him being nice to communists and vacationing in Russia to convince me.

    He is NOT a communist
    Reading the whole article would help:

    Sanders and comrades can be seen singing a Soviet song and then breaking into a round of “This Land Is Your Land,” the most famous song created by communist singer/activist Woody Guthrie. On his return from the Soviet Union, Bernie and his Vermont traveling companions held a press conference (see video below) that was essentially a propaganda forum promoting the Soviet government’s line on “peace.” This was, keep in mind, the same time during which the Soviet Union was still operating its vast Gulag system of slave labor/death camps, still carrying out its genocidal occupation of Afghanistan, still supporting Castro’s Cuba and the Sandinista revolution in Nicaragua, still occupying the Baltic States, still supporting and training the PLO and other terrorist groups — in short, still sponsoring war, revolution, and terror worldwide.


    Other Bernie defenders, apparently taking a cue from Singer, have parroted her line that Mayor Bernie was merely carrying out his “official duties.” What they don’t mention is that it was Mayor Bernie Sanders and his fellow Sanderistas on the Burlington City Council that pushed through the Burlington-Yaroslavl Sister City program, thus creating the “official duty” of visiting the USSR, a duty to which they dutifully, cheerfully responded.
    In a review of Sanders’ 1998 book Outsider in the House, an NBC article by Alex Seitz-Wald noted: “Sanders honeymooned in the USSR. Sanders married his current wife, Jane, in May of 1988 and the next day left for their ‘romantic honeymoon’ to Yaroslavl, in the then-Soviet Union. The trip was an official delegation from Burlington to cement the two cities’ sister-city relationship. ‘Trust me. It was a very strange honeymoon,’ Sanders writes. He also visited Cuba with Jane in 1989 and tried to meet with Fidel Castro, but it didn’t work out and he met with the mayor of Havana and other officials instead.”
    Several years earlier, in 1985, Sanders journeyed to Nicaragua to embrace Daniel Ortega and the Communist Sandinista revolution. A video interview with him expressing his enthusiastic support for the brutal Sandinista regime can be viewed here.
    Trevor Loudon’s Keywiki site entry on Senator Sanders provides many more details on his life-long pro-communist career, including his extended stay in 1963 working at the Stalinist, pro-Soviet Kibbutz Sha’ar Ha’amakim, near Haifa in northern Israel; his 1985 visit to Nicaragua and meeting with communist dictator Daniel Ortega; his relations with Venezuelan dictator Hugo Chavez and Venezuela’s Citgo Oil company; praise and endorsements for Sanders from top Communist Party officials and activists; his 99-percent rating from the Institute for Policy Studies (IPS), a radical Marxist “think tank” with ties to the Soviet KGB and Cuban DGI; and much more.

    More at: https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnew...oviet-comrades
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    Just for the record, I am naked from the sleeves down. What did I just read? nothing about policy just that he visited and was nice to some communist leaders. Trump is nice to Putin, I am sure that means he is pro Russia right? Sorry but this is not how it works, you say Sanders is a communist, you have to show me evidence other than him being nice to communists and vacationing in Russia to convince me.

    He is NOT a communist
    You are a blind firewall ignorant obstructionist. I have been throwing them at you all day and you have not read not one of them. They lay out the falsehoods and lies and show the reality. They even go back to the 60s to show the same Bernie Sanders communist roots that Alan Cranston came from. Know who Alan Cranston is? NO, you do not. See you are too young to see this and understand it for what it really is... I lived it... Been there.... Once again... you are allowing yourself to be played by the communist machine that started in the 60s. You can lower your own intellectual level and fool yourself... But don't try to fool me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    Oh look, I ask for a concise evidence and he comes back with more links. And look, one of them is a $16 book. Folks, this is how hard it is for him to show me that Bernie is a communist. I am afraid to keep asking cos I have a feeling you might come back with a multi volume, multi edition book reading assignment. Post the relevant part of the article, book, lecture etc etc and I will read it.
    I hit you with like 6 this morning directed right at Bernie the communist. Do I have to do it again??? No ... Look back... They are there... Everyone else read them, do you have a legal handicap that we should respect why you can't read those? If so, I would welcome the opportunity to call you and read them to you if it would help.

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