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    "Maduro Must Go!" - Trump Administration Backs Venezuela Regime Change

    "Maduro Must Go!" - Trump Administration Backs Venezuela Regime Change



    President Trump yesterday recognized Venezuelan opposition legislator as the legitimate president of the country and warned that "all options are on the table" if Venezuela's elected president moves against protestors or expelled US embassy staff who refuse to leave Caracas. US neocons applaud Trump's move. Does the US president finally have his very own "Syria" on his hands?
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    Are we about to blow the $#@! out of another country? What good does it do to pull our troops out of one country if we're just going to start bullying another one?
    "The Patriarch"

    willie with tan lines: enjoy the shots and the woman
    Quote Originally Posted by Schifference View Post
    The man did not think clearly. It was almost as if he had brain cancer of something.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    The foreigners will take 100% of your income and then your life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    Are we about to blow the $#@! out of another country? What good does it do to pull our troops out of one country if we're just going to start bullying another one?

    We must shift our attention to other parts of the globe to expand this great Empire that you and I get to subsidize.

    Grrrrrrr
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    Damn government shutdown and it's demands of 'regime change'.
    "The Patriarch"

    willie with tan lines: enjoy the shots and the woman
    Quote Originally Posted by Schifference View Post
    The man did not think clearly. It was almost as if he had brain cancer of something.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    The foreigners will take 100% of your income and then your life.

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    How Nice of Washington to just go and appoint a puppet as a new president for Venezuela.
    So much for “democracy.”
    So much for being against meddling in elections.
    Washington hypocrisy and hubris knows no bounds.


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    Venezuelan Foreign Minister Arreaza just days ago:
    "They [Washington] are the bosses of the opposition. They tell them what to do. Nothing that the opposition does is without the permission or authorization of the State Department, at least, here in the United States. And they confess this. They say, “We have to make consultations with the embassy. We have to make consultations with the Department of State.” It happens. I mean, they are not free. They are not independent.
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    PCR: Washington has appointed a president for Venezuela

    After listening since 2016 to the American presstitutes complain, without providing a mere scrap of evidence, of Russia meddling in US elections, a person would think that the last thing Washington would do would be to meddle in other countries’ elections. …

    Washington routinely meddles but now has gone far beyond mere meddling. Washington has this day (January 23, 2019) declared that the elected president of Venezuela, Nicolas Maduro, is no longer the Venezuelan president. Washington, not the Venezuelan people, has decided who is Venezuela’s president. … President Trump elected by diktat the Venezuelan president: …

    Gaido is in Washington’s pocket

    now Venezuela has two presidents. One elected by the people, and one appointed by Washington. … [Who’s next?] Russia, China, Iran, Syria, Turkey, India? …

    Washington managed to frame and remove from power the female reformist president of Argentina and to replace her with a right-wing Washington puppet. … remove from power, and imprison the leaders of the reformist party in Brazil and to install a right-wing Washington puppet. … dispose of the reformist government in Ecuador, install a Washington puppet, and use him against Julian Assange. … interfered in the French election by framing the likely socialist candidate, Dominique Strauss-Kahn on a bogus rape charge that fell apart after removing Strauss-Kahn from contention. … The reformist government in Bolivia is also under Washington pressure. … Washington’s massive interference in the political affairs of other countries. … Washington’s interference in Russian elections and Ukraine’s elections. …

    Washington used the old Washington-allied Spanish Venezuelan elite, who still control the Venezuelan media, to overthrow Chavez. But before Washington could kill Chavez, the Venezuelan military and people intervened …
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Dr. Ron Paul. "Stand up for what you believe in, even if you are standing alone." - Sophie Magdalena Scholl
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    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Dr. Ron Paul. "Stand up for what you believe in, even if you are standing alone." - Sophie Magdalena Scholl
    "War is the health of the State." - Randolph Bourne "Freedom is the answer. ... Now, what's the question?" - Ernie Hancock.

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    https://twitter.com/DanielLMcAdams/s...62271420407808
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    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul
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    https://twitter.com/DanielLMcAdams/s...51971522609155
    Twitter: B4Liberty@USAB4L
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul
    They are what they hate.” - B4L


    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.

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    https://twitter.com/DanielLarison/st...78993664786432
    Twitter: B4Liberty@USAB4L
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul
    They are what they hate.” - B4L


    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.

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    1. In October Venezuela ended the use of dollar for international transactions, in favor of the Euro and Yuan.
    2. This month Venezuela signs deal to move its oil refining operations to Turkey, using gold trade to bypass Washington's sanctions.
    3. Last Month Venezuela, with the world's largest known oil reserves, signs a deal with Russia to beef up its oil production.
    4. This month Venezuela assumed the presidency of OPEC and began a push for oil sales in non-dollar currencies.
    5. This month Venezuela gave the go ahead for Russian gold mining inside Venezuela.
    *** Now all of a sudden frantic and desperate Washington announces it has appointed a new President to rule over Venezuela. COINCIDENCE?
    .....


    FTP: Coincidence? Venezuela Green Lights Russia to Mine Gold, Days Later US Attempts Overthrow

    This move by Washington to recognize Guaidó as the official president is a page out of the book they’ve used over the last two decades to invade and destroy countries like Iraq, Libya, and Syria. The exact same rhetoric from the bipartisan warmongers … shills like Marco Rubio … All of the sudden, Trump’s haters are coming together in solidarity, seething with their warmongering mucus over the potential for a Venezuelan conflict. …

    nearly the exact same tactics were used just before the US invaded Libya and turned this bastion of hope in Africa into a terror-infused hell-state in which human slaves are now openly sold in public. Just like Guaidó claimed to be president and was recognized by the US, in Libya, the head of the Libyan National Transitional Council, Mustafa Abdul Jalil threatened mass deaths if the West did not intervene and was quickly given control. Days later, the Libyan NTC was officially recognized as the Libyan government and the Gaddafi regime was out. Days after this, NATO powers, led by the US, proceeded to turn Libya into the war ravaged hell hole it is today. …

    expect this move by the US to stoke potential for a civil war in Venezuela …

    To those who think this is about Nicolás Maduro, think again. No one here is arguing that Maduro is an angel. No one here is saying that his election wasn’t surrounded in controversy. And, no one here is claiming that the people of Venezuela do not have a right to contest his presidency. But to ignore every president’s meddling in the country since George W. Bush and the US desire to overthrow Hugo Chavez for a decade before this would be incredibly naive. …

    the proven oil reserves in Venezuela are known to be the largest in the world, totaling 297 billion barrels. In December, Caracas and Moscow signed a $5 billion investment deal to raise Venezuela’s oil production by one million barrels per day. This move was done to counter the effects of US sanctions which have been crippling the country and raised many neocon eyebrows.

    aside from their proven oil deposits, Venezuela is also known for its extremely rich gold deposits. Also in December, Caracas gave the green light to Russia to begin mining gold inside their country.
    As for Russia’s participation in gold-mining or other mining projects, Venezuela has made a wide range of interesting proposals that are currently under consideration by interested Russian operators,” the ambassador said. …

    Venezuela has become the 25th largest holder of gold in the world making them a direct threat to the global banking system.

    To think that the US interests in Venezuela are purely humanitarian is not only asinine but it blindly ignores decades of US interventionism highlighting the contrary—especially considering what happened in Libya. … on October 20th, 2011, the West took it upon itself to use NATO to overthrow Gaddafi — not for any humanitarian threat to civilians as had been repeatedly claimed and is the alleged impetus behind the coup in Venezuela — but because his planned roll-out of a new currency to be used across Africa posed a palpable existential threat to central banks at the heart of the Western financial and political system. …

    before Washington’s endorsement of Guaido, Venezuela was carrying out a similar plan. President Recep Tayyip Erdogan recently launched a gold trade with Maduro. But this was not simply moving gold from one place to another. Maduro announced that he was moving his entire refining operation directly to Turkey in a direct move against the Western monetary controlled sanctions.

    Now, we find ourselves on the precipice of an all out invasion of their country. Go figure.

    As US sanctions continue to backfire due to an ever-increasing coalition of countries dedicated to fighting them, the American military industrial complex will have no other options for self-preservation other than war. Regardless of how you feel personally about what is going on with the Venezuelan people and their government, buying into another set of lies used for Western interventionism—in yet another country who “needs some freedom”—will undoubtedly be catastrophic, and 100 percent of recent similar situations proves this.
    Last edited by AZJoe; 01-26-2019 at 03:57 AM.
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    Thoughts from MofA: Venezuela - The U.S. Game Plan For 'Regime Change' And How To Respond To It

    Yesterday the U.S. recognized a right-wing 'leader of the opposition' in Venezuela Juan Guaido as the president of the country. … Russia, China, Iran and Turkey continue to support the government of the elected President Nicolas Maduro and spoke out against the coup attempt. The European Union has no united opinion with the neo-liberal led France being pro-coup and Spain standing against it.

    Venezuela must prepare for a multi year conflict while doing everything to keep it as short as possible.

    This long planned U.S. move against the legitimate government of Venezuela is just the start. It is designed to lead to escalation and very soon mission creep… the biggest oil reserves in the world, are at stake. ….
    The game plan for the current U.S. regime-change operation against the government of Venezuela was written by Senator Marco Rubio with the support of Vice President Pence:
    The American recognition of Mr. Guaidó as Venezuela’s legitimate president is far more than a symbolic measure, and presents new complications for Mr. Maduro.
    The idea was avidly promoted by Senator Marco Rubio, a Florida Republican who pushed the Trump administration to take such a step. In a speech to the Senate on Jan. 15, Mr. Rubio said that designating Mr. Guaidó as president would allow millions of dollars of Venezuelan government assets frozen in the United States to be at the disposal of opposition lawmakers, who could use them to fund new elections or humanitarian assistance.

    The real amount the U.S. and Britain have 'frozen', or practically stolen, from Venezuela amount to several billion dollars, not just a few millions. Such 'freezing' of money owned by governments the U.S. does not like has become all too common. Together with a raft of other sanctions the economic war the U.S. has long waged against the country made the recovery of the Venezuelan economy nearly impossible. …

    the U.S. is now likely to confiscate all money that is supposed to flow to Venezuela the country must stop its oil-exports to the United States. A number of U.S. refineries … depend on the special grade of Venezuelan oil and would soon run into trouble. That could help to change the mood in Washington. …

    The opposition in Venezuela will probably use access to that 'frozen' money to buy weapons and to create an army of mercenaries to fight a 'civil' war … Like in Syria U.S. special forces or some CIA 'contractors' will be eager to help. The supply line for such a war would most likely run through Colombia. If, like 2011 in Syria, a war on the ground is planned it will likely begin in the cities near that border. …

    After the U.S. announcement Venezuela's president Maduro ordered all U.S. diplomats in Caracas to leave the country within 72 hours. … the U.S. no longer recognizes Maduro it rejected that. … Pompeo announced to "conduct our relations with Venezuela through the government of interim President Guaido." The rejection was most likely planned and is supposed to provoke a too harsh reaction …

    Under a normal process the Venezuelan government would now arrest the U.S. diplomats as soon as they leave the legally protected embassy compound. They would be put on a plane and evicted from the country. But it seems likely that U.S. planned for this conflict and that the diplomats are prepared to stay in the embassy for a long time.

    The best for Venezuela to do now is to simply isolate the embassy. It must be well guarded to prevent false flag attacks … No visitors should be allowed. All the embassy's communication lines should be cut (it would still have satellite communication) and electricity and water should be rationed. … play this 'by the book' so that the U.S. can not use the issue to escalate. …

    Before starting a larger war the opposition will try to create unbearable chaos … Police will be attacked and people on both sides will die. …

    the illegal regime change attempt has support even from supposedly 'socialist' Democrats. The U.S. propaganda apparatus, the mainstream media and various propaganda 'bot' campaigns are fully engaged. … Facebook, Instagram and Twitter - have already de-recognized the official Maduro accounts. … There are trucks with anti-Maduro advertisements driving in U.S. cities and various propaganda accounts post false pictures or make otherwise false claims. This sudden change of location is cute in its fatuity:

    The Venezuelan government should consult with Syria and Russia on how to win such a conflict. The most important step Maduro has to take is to shore up his ground support. …

    Another step must be an early dialog with reasonable parts of the opposition. While lots of people may not like the Maduro government many of them will disagree with the obviously U.S.-led intervention. These people can be won over. The Catholic Church could be asked to mediate …
    The Venezuelan military has promised to support its elected president. He should use it to react early against any attempt of violent escalation. The lesson to learn from the conflict in Syria it is that a prolonged conflict will cause more casualties and damage …
    Last edited by AZJoe; 01-25-2019 at 01:51 PM.
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    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Dr. Ron Paul. "Stand up for what you believe in, even if you are standing alone." - Sophie Magdalena Scholl
    "War is the health of the State." - Randolph Bourne "Freedom is the answer. ... Now, what's the question?" - Ernie Hancock.

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    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Dr. Ron Paul. "Stand up for what you believe in, even if you are standing alone." - Sophie Magdalena Scholl
    "War is the health of the State." - Randolph Bourne "Freedom is the answer. ... Now, what's the question?" - Ernie Hancock.



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  20. #17
    Quote Originally Posted by AZJoe View Post
    Looks like Soros organized?
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    Are we about to blow the $#@! out of another country? What good does it do to pull our troops out of one country if we're just going to start bullying another one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    "The Patriarch"

    willie with tan lines: enjoy the shots and the woman
    Quote Originally Posted by Schifference View Post
    The man did not think clearly. It was almost as if he had brain cancer of something.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    The foreigners will take 100% of your income and then your life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc


    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    I've seen this one too, this is the one where they get libertarians to go beyond Non-interventionism and support a murderous communist dictator.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I've seen this one too, this is the one where they get libertarians to go beyond Non-interventionism and support a murderous communist dictator.
    OMG. Thus is ridiculous. It sounds like a liberal attempting to arguing if you oppose gun control then you are automatically supporting murderers. If you oppose drug laws, then you are supporting murderous drug dealers. If you oppose the manufactured Russiagate hoax with hunt then you support Russia controlling U.S. elections. One would think a RP member would not fall for espousing such foolishness.
    One can oppose the latest Washington manufactured regime change operation, and its sanctions and economic warfare, and attempt to appoint its puppet as ruler of a sovereign nation, without supporting Maduro. Bad SS.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Dr. Ron Paul. "Stand up for what you believe in, even if you are standing alone." - Sophie Magdalena Scholl
    "War is the health of the State." - Randolph Bourne "Freedom is the answer. ... Now, what's the question?" - Ernie Hancock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Looks like Soros organized?
    Soros' Open Society is neck deep in Venzuela, but its not supporting the Venezuelan loyalists. Soros and company are are as usual funding Washington's regime change attempt to appoint puppet Guaido.
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    "War is the health of the State." - Randolph Bourne "Freedom is the answer. ... Now, what's the question?" - Ernie Hancock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZJoe View Post
    OMG. Thus is ridiculous. It sounds like a liberal attempting to arguing if you oppose gun control then you are automatically supporting murderers. If you oppose drug laws, then you are supporting murderous drug dealers. If you oppose the manufactured Russiagate hoax with hunt then you support Russia controlling U.S. elections. One would think a RP member would not fall for espousing such foolishness.
    One can oppose the latest Washington manufactured regime change operation, and its sanctions and economic warfare, and attempt to appoint its puppet as ruler of a sovereign nation, without supporting Maduro. Bad SS.
    It is already happening, we have members of this site that are cheering for Maduro.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

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    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

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    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

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    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZJoe View Post
    OMG. Thus is ridiculous. It sounds like a liberal attempting to arguing if you oppose gun control then you are automatically supporting murderers. If you oppose drug laws, then you are supporting murderous drug dealers. If you oppose the manufactured Russiagate hoax with hunt then you support Russia controlling U.S. elections. One would think a RP member would not fall for espousing such foolishness.
    One can oppose the latest Washington manufactured regime change operation, and its sanctions and economic warfare, and attempt to appoint its puppet as ruler of a sovereign nation, without supporting Maduro. Bad SS.
    EXACTLY.
    There is no spoon.

  30. #26

    Truth:



    The Exceptional Nation Asserts Its Exceptionalism
    By Paul Craig Roberts

    PaulCraigRoberts.org

    January 26, 2019

    Washington has chosen a president for Venezuela. I wonder if Trump saw the black humor in doing to Maduro what the Democrats and presstitutes are doing to him.

    Few Latin American governments have ever had a government that represents the majority indigenous people or a president who was not of Spanish descent. Chavez in Venezuela perhaps was the longest lasting indigenous leader. His successor Maduro is also indigenous.

    Indigenous Latin American leaders are unacceptable to Washington, because they tend to be reformers who represent their country’s people instead of American business and financial interests. Consequently, when a Latin electorate elects a leader who will put them first, Washington overthrows the leader. This is the history of US/Latin American relations.

    In the 21st century alone Washington has overthrown the elected presidents of Honduras, Argentina, Brazil and Venezuela and overturned the independence of Ecuador that had provided asylum protection for Julian Assange. Washington’s coup with the Spanish elite against Chavez in Venezuela initially succeeded. Chavez was in captivity, but before he could be murdered the Venezuelan people and military forced his release.

    Chavez, either because he lacked the power to move against the traitorous Spanish elite or because he chose to display magnanimity, did not hold those responsible who participated in the coup against his life and Venezuelan sovereignty. Washington’s agents, the Spanish elite, were not arrested and retained their control over the media and the economy. Venezuela has substantial oil revenues, but they do not reach the government’s budget or protect the value of the currency. I do not know who controls the Venezuelan oil, but it appears the revenues are being stolen. As it seems unlikely the Spanish elites would permit the indigenous people to control the oil business, possibly the oil revenues are what funds, along with Washington, the anti-Maduro opposition. If the Maduro government is stealing the revenues, then the government is committing suicide.

    Consequently, Washington and its Venezuelan vassals have had a free hand against Maduro. The whores who comprise the Western media have served Washington’s demonization of Maduro, an elected president that Washington calls a dictator. In the election that re-elected Maduro, Washington instructed the traditional Venezuelan oligarchy to boycott the election. That allowed Washington to claim that Maduro was not legitimately elected.

    Of course, if there had been any chance of Washington and its Spanish vassals winning the election, they most certainly would not have boycotted it. But the whores who constitute the American media have no integrity and thereby no problem in overlooking the fact that Venezuelans prefer Maduro to Washington’s Spanish vassals.

    Washington using sanctions and economic punishments has been trying for years to destabilize Venezuela in order to bring down the government and install Washington’s agent as president. This policy has cruelly punished the Venezuelan people, but nevertheless they have clung to their indigenous leadership. The other day Washington organized a military coup, but few participated and it was easily put down.

    Defeated on these fronts, Washington had Trump and Pence declare that Maduro was not the president of Venezuela and that Washington recognized its agent in the legislature as president. Pence called for the newly annointed president to overthrow the Maduro government and threatened Maduro with invasion if he acted against Washington’s designated president.

    Maduro’s response, a numbrer of years late, was to order all US diplomats out of Venezuela. Washington replied that as Washington does not recognize Maduro’s government as legitimate, Maduro lacks the authority to throw them out. The US diplomats will remain and continue the conspiracy against Maduro.

    Here we have a situation in which Washington, not the Venezuelan people, has chosen the president of Venezuela and refuses to accept the Venezuelan government’s break of diplomatic relations.
    As I write, indications are that Washington’s vassals in Canada and Europe are also withdrawing recognition from the legally elected government of Venezuela, conferring recognition instead on the unelected agent of American business and financial interests selected by Washington.

    What does this say about the West? The West regards itself as the home of integrity, human rights, democracy, truth, and goodness. But in fact the West is committed to supporting Washington’s suppression of Venezuelan self-determination.

    What Washington is doing to Venezuela is a good lesson for the gullible Russian Atlanticist Integrationists and the gullible pro-western Chinese youth. As China’s Global Times put it: “For a long time, the US has been eager to replace international law with its geopolitical interests and values so as to legalize its interference” and hegemony over the world.

    Putin expressed his support for the legitimacy of Maduro’s government and said that the Venezuelan internal political crisis was “provoked from outside the country.”

    Will Washington announce tomorrow that the US has decided that Alexei Navalny, not Vladimir Putin, is president of Russia? Will Washington announce that the US no longer considers Xi Jinping to be China’s president, as his one party regime makes him illegitimate, and has replaced him with Tsai Lng-Wen?

    How long will other powers tolerate Washington’s illegality and aggression?

    How long will Americans tolerate the shame that Washington heaps upon their shoulders?
    There is no spoon.

  31. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post

    Truth:


    Maduro lost the last semi-legitimate election so he held rigged elections, his primary opponents were barred from running.

    We should stay out of it but Guaido is more legitimate than Maduro.

    And China and Russia have been meddling to prop up the dictator and split the spoils from his looting of the country, they are NOT angels in all this.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  32. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post


    Maduro lost the last semi-legitimate election so he held rigged elections, his primary opponents were barred from running.

    We should stay out of it but Guaido is more legitimate than Maduro.

    And China and Russia have been meddling to prop up the dictator and split the spoils from his looting of the country, they are NOT angels in all this.
    How is it our business? Is Trump trying to appease the deep state again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    How is it our business? Is Trump trying to appease the deep state again?
    It's not our business and I don't know what Trump is doing, he may be cutting deals or he may be playing oil-geopolitics to try and help the US oil industry.
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  34. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post


    Maduro lost the last semi-legitimate election so he held rigged elections, his primary opponents were barred from running.

    We should stay out of it but Guaido is more legitimate than Maduro.

    And China and Russia have been meddling to prop up the dictator and split the spoils from his looting of the country, they are NOT angels in all this.
    neg rep. SS is just pulling cr@p out of bizarro land now. Maduro won overwhelmingly with 67%. Guaido was not even a candidate. There is no evidence of Chinese o Russian meddling in the election, but there is overwhelming evidence of Washington's meddling in Venezuela domestic politics for decades. Neg rep for just making stuff up. This deserves 10 neg reps for SS. Is this SS or has he been taken over by Pelosi or Bolton. Has he been recruited by Soros for the latest regime change operation. Trump infatuation syndrome is as bad as the Trump derangement syndrome.

    1. In October Venezuela ended the use of dollar for international transactions, in favor of the Euro and Yuan.
    2. This month Venezuela signs deal for gold refining operations to Turkey.
    3. Last Month Venezuela, with the world's largest known oil reserves, signs a deal with Russia to beef up its oil production.
    4. This month Venezuela assumed the presidency of OPEC and began a push for oil sales in non-dollar currencies.
    5. This month Venezuela gave the go ahead for Russian gold mining inside Venezuela.
    *** Now all of a sudden frantic and desperate Washington announces it has appointed a new President to rule over Venezuela. COINCIDENCE?
    Last edited by AZJoe; 01-31-2019 at 09:55 AM.
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