New Tech Converts CO2 Into Electricity And Hydrogen

[Swordsmyth]

Amid increasingly urgent calls for more radical climate change action, a team of South Korean scientists has found a way to kill two birds with one stone by converting carbon dioxide into electricity and hydrogen.
The team, from the Ulsan National Institute of Science and Technology, took as a starting point of their research the fact that when CO2 is absorbed into the sea—which is where most CO2 emissions end up—the acidity levels of the water rise. As per their report, “If acidity increases, the number of protons increases, which in turn increases the power to attract electrons. If a battery system is created based on this phenomenon, electricity can be produced by removing CO2.”
The system that the researchers invented very much resembles a fuel cell in which the reaction starts when CO2 is injected into the water, which contains the catalyst necessary for the reaction and the sodium metal cathode. The team reports the system has a pretty high conversion efficiency at 50 percent and has operated for more than 1,000 hours without the electrodes sustaining any damage.
Ideally, the system could be deployed to capture and convert emissions from fossil fuel-powered facilities into hydrogen, to be used in its turn as vehicle fuel. However, this is early-stage research. According to the lead co-author of the research, Professor Jeongwon Kim, “This research will lead to more derived research and will be able to produce H2 and electricity more effectively when electrolytes, separator, system design, and electrocatalysts are improved.”


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[dannno]

Ok, just make sure we save enough for the plants..

[dannno]

Ok, so for a car you could have a gas engine generator that powers a battery, then take the CO2 from the generator exhaust and convert it to electricity that also powers a battery, then take the resulting hydrogen and convert that into electricity for the battery. Run the car off the battery.

[acptulsa]

Ok, so for a car you could have a gas engine generator that powers a battery, then take the CO2 from the generator exhaust and convert it to electricity that also powers a battery, then take the resulting hydrogen and convert that into electricity for the battery. Run the car off the battery.

And use three gallons to the mile

[dannno]

And use three gallons to the mile

They already have gas electric hybrids that get high gas mileage using that technology. To that, they can add the CO2 -> electricity and hydrogen -> electricity.

[Original_Intent]

I was going to challenge this as there is no hydrogen in CO2, so that would be quite a trick. I see from the article water is also involved, so - pretty cool.

[acptulsa]

They already have gas electric hybrids that get high gas mileage using that technology. To that, they can add the CO2 -> electricity and hydrogen -> electricity.

No. Try CO2 -> hydrogen -> electricity. No "and".

It's people like you that made the Pogue Carburetor such a profitable scam. You have that liberal faith that Congress has the power to repeal the laws of physics.

[Stratovarious]

They already have gas electric hybrids that get high gas mileage using that technology. To that, they can add the CO2 -> electricity and hydrogen -> electricity.

The Globalists are going to keep their teeth sunk deep into taxing
CO2 on both sides if this becomes a viable energy source.
Sounds like a promising technology, we'll see, and 50% efficiency is massive.

[Stratovarious]

Amid increasingly urgent calls for more radical climate change action, a team of South Korean scientists has found a way to kill two birds with one stone by converting carbon dioxide into electricity and hydrogen.
The team, from the Ulsan National Institute of Science and Technology, took as a starting point of their research the fact that when CO2 is absorbed into the sea—which is where most CO2 emissions end up—the acidity levels of the water rise. As per their report, “If acidity increases, the number of protons increases, which in turn increases the power to attract electrons. If a battery system is created based on this phenomenon, electricity can be produced by removing CO2.”
The system that the researchers invented very much resembles a fuel cell in which the reaction starts when CO2 is injected into the water, which contains the catalyst necessary for the reaction and the sodium metal cathode. The team reports the system has a pretty high conversion efficiency at 50 percent and has operated for more than 1,000 hours without the electrodes sustaining any damage.
Ideally, the system could be deployed to capture and convert emissions from fossil fuel-powered facilities into hydrogen, to be used in its turn as vehicle fuel. However, this is early-stage research. According to the lead co-author of the research, Professor Jeongwon Kim, “This research will lead to more derived research and will be able to produce H2 and electricity more effectively when electrolytes, separator, system design, and electrocatalysts are improved.”


More at: https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-G...-Hydrogen.html

I love this idea , who knows though, hydrogen has been touted for years as the answer,
we'll just have to see where this new tech goes.
What is particularly troubling though, is the premise that this could help save us from
CO2 Armageddon, the GW heretics will claim this as 'a' 'solution' to the imaginary problem,
you see, they saved us.....
-
I've said this a million times but it is true;
Had there ever been an ounce of truth in anthropomorphic
global warming they'd have been planting huge Forests 20
years ago, the last thing that they really wanted was a Solution,
not until they've been guaranteed a foothold, they're looking for
trillions in taxes.
Spending Millions on bought and paid for fake science is a drop
in the ocean by comparison to the taxes that the Globalists plan
on cashing in on.
Hegelian Dialectic;
Problem
Reaction
Solution

[dannno]

No. Try CO2 -> hydrogen -> electricity. No "and".

It's people like you that made the Pogue Carburetor such a profitable scam. You have that liberal faith that Congress has the power to repeal the laws of physics.

Did you read the article in the OP?

They can take CO2 and make electricity + hydrogen now. Wow. Amazing (using water). Then the hydrogen would need to be converted. That's an "and".

Try and get with the discussion.

[acptulsa]

Did you read the article in the OP?

They can take CO2 and make electricity + hydrogen now. Wow. Amazing (using water). Then the hydrogen would need to be converted. That's an "and".

Try and get with the discussion.

Going the arrogant route again? Why don't you review the article?

“If acidity increases, the number of protons increases, which in turn increases the power to attract electrons. If a battery system is created based on this phenomenon, electricity can be produced by removing CO2.” ...

Ideally, the system could be deployed to capture and convert emissions from fossil fuel-powered facilities into hydrogen, to be used in its turn as vehicle fuel.

Now then. Where does the hydrogen come from? Carbon dioxide contains carbon and oxygen, right? And you can't make hydrogen from those without splitting atoms and blowing yourself up, right? So, like Original_Intent said, the hydrogen is separated from the oxygen in the water, right?

And how do we separate hydrogen from oxygen again? Would that be a little process called electrolysis? And what does electrolysis use? Do you suppose it's called electrolysis because it uses electricity?

So you expect to use your electricity and have it too? Ever try that with cake?

So, what process did the article describe?

CO2 -> electricity (+water) -> hydrogen

And what did I say that caused you to arrogantly ask if I read the article?

No. Try CO2 -> hydrogen -> electricity. No "and".

So you, the guy who arrogantly derides people for believing things the media says, read a headline from an oil industry rag, and are taking me to task for thinking critically about what the article actually said even though it contradicted its own headline. Is that correct?

You do love perpetual motion devices, don't you? So do I. But I sober up now and then. And when I do, I find they aren't real.

[Superfluous Man]

I was going to challenge this as there is no hydrogen in CO2, so that would be quite a trick. I see from the article water is also involved, so - pretty cool.

I was going to say the same thing. Wherever the Hydrogen is coming from, it's not CO2 being converted into Hydrogen.

It sounds like the CO2 is staying CO2, and I don't know if that may be a potential weakness in the idea. Does this require a supply of Water to absorb all the CO2 and just keep it there? What happens to the water after that?

[dannno]

You do love perpetual motion devices, don't you?

That's not what I described.. I guess the headline of the article could have been written better, it sounded like the input was CO2 and this battery system and the output was electricity and hydrogen. I know how electrolysis works.

[acptulsa]

It sounds like the CO2 is staying CO2, and I don't know if that may be a potential weakness in the idea. Does this require a supply of Water to absorb all the CO2 and just keep it there? What happens to the water after that?

CO2 is not an acid. So clearly the carbon is reacting and the reaction creates the acid.

Water H2O + carbon dioxide CO2 + energy such as sunlight -> carbonic acid H2CO3 with nothing left over.

Then, just as with a lead-acid battery, using the electricity will presumably reverse the process, breaking down the acid. Or, to put it the way a scientist would, breaking down the acid by sapping the free electrons causes the energy to be released as electricity. Because a scientist knows energy cannot be created or destroyed, and he or she must follow the energy to avoid looking foolish.

I don't know what they'd do with the water. I think they could reuse it. They won't get rid of it by convincing me to drink it.