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  1. #91
    Quote Originally Posted by idiom View Post
    In the meantime you have the option of being polite and making someones day better, or trying to control their behavior through social pressure.
    I'll take the latter and it is my right to do so as long as I don't get government involved.
    Insanity is insanity.
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  3. #92
    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    Are you talking about the guy who looked like someone in drag from a Monty Python skit who was rude enough to cause a scene as others were simply enjoying a meal because they aren't into being socially pressured into accepting this intersectional PC BS. Because a 7K fine is the pressure that is actually being applied.

    Come on Idi. Even Zippy was smart enough to drop this baton.
    M=T
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

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    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  4. #93
    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    Are you talking about the guy who looked like someone in drag from a Monty Python skit who was rude enough to cause a scene as others were simply enjoying a meal because they aren't into being socially pressured into accepting this intersectional PC BS. Because a 7K fine is the pressure that is actually being applied.

    Come on Idi. Even Zippy was smart enough to drop this baton.
    If you tell young people that Marxism is the only way to build an inclusive society then that is what you are going to get.

    If libertarians abdicate from being the ones to create a society in which freedom of expression is possible then those who wish to allow for maximum freedom will go to those who promise it. And the results will be more of this $#@!.
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    The DMV is a private non-profit
    Rescue helicopters and ambulances are operated by charities and are plastered with corporate logos
    The agriculture industry has zero subsidies
    5% of the national vote, gets you 5 seats in Parliament
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  5. #94
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    M=T
    Thanks you for your erudite contributions. Noteworthy as always.
    In New Zealand:
    The Coastguard is a Charity
    Air Traffic Control is a private company run on user fees
    The DMV is a private non-profit
    Rescue helicopters and ambulances are operated by charities and are plastered with corporate logos
    The agriculture industry has zero subsidies
    5% of the national vote, gets you 5 seats in Parliament
    A tax return has 4 fields
    Business licenses aren't a thing
    Prostitution is legal
    We have a constitutional right to refuse any type of medical care

  6. #95
    Quote Originally Posted by idiom View Post
    If you tell young people that Marxism is the only way to build an inclusive society then that is what you are going to get.

    If libertarians abdicate from being the ones to create a society in which freedom of expression is possible then those who wish to allow for maximum freedom will go to those who promise it. And the results will be more of this $#@!.
    The only tyranny utilized in this situation was the government stealing $7K from a business. How the business owner runs his business is his business... PERIOD. As I said earlier, I would hold the same opinion if a trans business owner kicked out a patron for wearing a maga hat or even looking too Christian. It's their business. Stay out of it idiom and take your government with you
    ...

  7. #96
    Quote Originally Posted by idiom View Post
    Yeah, that'd be the marxists completely owning the vacuum left by the libertarians and liberals.

    One asks that you be polite to people who are different, the other demands you behave a certain way.

    Most of the Trans people in your environment pass entirely. You are blissfully unaware of their lives. This is because they are liable to be murdered if they didn't live this way. Now libertarians could pretty easily be for not murdering people because of the way they dress. Instead the marxists use trans people and others as a tool to gain social power, a tool they will discard later when they go back to being conservatives.
    Nobody is talking about killing anyone or demanding you behave a certain way but the rabid leftists. A business wanting people to use bathrooms designated for their sex doesn't fall into either category. That guy can dress and act however he wants but inserting himself into places he's not welcome is demanding others change their behavior.
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  9. #97
    Quote Originally Posted by idiom View Post
    If you tell young people that Marxism is the only way to build an inclusive society then that is what you are going to get.

    If libertarians abdicate from being the ones to create a society in which freedom of expression is possible then those who wish to allow for maximum freedom will go to those who promise it. And the results will be more of this $#@!.
    You don't want freedom of expression, you want enforced acceptance.

    You are free to express yourself as you see fit and others are free to react as they see fit.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  10. #98
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You don't want freedom of expression, you want enforced acceptance.

    You are free to express yourself as you see fit and others are free to react as they see fit.
    Yes but this goes on and on. Look at the Catholic school incident. People react as they see fit. Look at Dr. Rand Paul assault. The left over reacts. The delusional psychotic people demand that society change. Look at the reaction of cops when they pull over a person for a faulty blinker. Then the reaction of the grand jury, judge, jury.

  11. #99
    Quote Originally Posted by Schifference View Post
    Yes but this goes on and on. Look at the Catholic school incident. People react as they see fit. Look at Dr. Rand Paul assault. The left over reacts. The delusional psychotic people demand that society change. Look at the reaction of cops when they pull over a person for a faulty blinker. Then the reaction of the grand jury, judge, jury.
    Government isn't the solution to those problems, it is the cause of some of them.
    The only solution is separation, the weirdos and any liberals crazy enough to accept them can make their own society and leave us alone, unless that happens there will be cultural conflict and adults will just have to deal with it until one side or the other wins.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  12. #100
    Russia is cutting the space based missle defence
    budget, so they can finish building 45,000,000
    transgender restrooms, they will adjoin women's
    restrooms and have free video feeds so they can peep on
    the women's restrooms and not cause alarm to
    business owers, parents, or patrons.

    NPANEWS.COM

  13. #101
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Government isn't the solution to those problems, it is the cause of some of them.
    The only solution is separation, the weirdos and any liberals crazy enough to accept them can make their own society and leave us alone, unless that happens there will be cultural conflict and adults will just have to deal with it until one side or the other wins.
    In years past a man that believed he was a woman would be considered mentally ill. Now those that think the man is a man are mentally ill. Weirdoism is normalcy.

    Was just thinking that a transwoman might be the first female president. It takes a real man to be a woman president. This could redefine "both sides of the aisle."

    What it is going to take is women to stand up instead of embracing the lunacy.

  14. #102
    A teenager cannot even stand his ground with a smile while others intimidate him without major consequence these days

  15. #103
    Quote Originally Posted by Schifference View Post
    In years past a man that believed he was a woman would be considered mentally ill. Now those that think the man is a man are mentally ill. Weirdoism is normalcy.

    Was just thinking that a transwoman might be the first female president. It takes a real man to be a woman president. This could redefine "both sides of the aisle."

    What it is going to take is women to stand up instead of embracing the lunacy.
    These are literally marxist talking points.
    In New Zealand:
    The Coastguard is a Charity
    Air Traffic Control is a private company run on user fees
    The DMV is a private non-profit
    Rescue helicopters and ambulances are operated by charities and are plastered with corporate logos
    The agriculture industry has zero subsidies
    5% of the national vote, gets you 5 seats in Parliament
    A tax return has 4 fields
    Business licenses aren't a thing
    Prostitution is legal
    We have a constitutional right to refuse any type of medical care

  16. #104
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    Nobody is talking about killing anyone or demanding you behave a certain way but the rabid leftists. A business wanting people to use bathrooms designated for their sex doesn't fall into either category. That guy can dress and act however he wants but inserting himself into places he's not welcome is demanding others change their behavior.
    That would be a wonderful world to live in, but in America right now a trans person has a pretty high chance of being beaten to death, like 1 in 10. That not all rabid leftists doing that.
    In New Zealand:
    The Coastguard is a Charity
    Air Traffic Control is a private company run on user fees
    The DMV is a private non-profit
    Rescue helicopters and ambulances are operated by charities and are plastered with corporate logos
    The agriculture industry has zero subsidies
    5% of the national vote, gets you 5 seats in Parliament
    A tax return has 4 fields
    Business licenses aren't a thing
    Prostitution is legal
    We have a constitutional right to refuse any type of medical care



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  18. #105
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Government isn't the solution to those problems, it is the cause of some of them.
    The only solution is separation, the weirdos and any liberals crazy enough to accept them can make their own society and leave us alone, unless that happens there will be cultural conflict and adults will just have to deal with it until one side or the other wins.
    Liberals crazy enough to build a society of religious and social tolerance is how we got here. Now we have Marxists and Fascists and the odd theocrat wanting to turn back the clock.

    One of Marx's big problems with Capitalism was that it encouraged women to live like men and broke down "proper" social mores and behaviours.

    Hands up if you think women wearing jeans was a really bad thing. If only there was a nice group of state or religious enforcers around to stop that $#@!.
    Last edited by idiom; 01-21-2019 at 04:34 PM.
    In New Zealand:
    The Coastguard is a Charity
    Air Traffic Control is a private company run on user fees
    The DMV is a private non-profit
    Rescue helicopters and ambulances are operated by charities and are plastered with corporate logos
    The agriculture industry has zero subsidies
    5% of the national vote, gets you 5 seats in Parliament
    A tax return has 4 fields
    Business licenses aren't a thing
    Prostitution is legal
    We have a constitutional right to refuse any type of medical care

  19. #106
    Quote Originally Posted by idiom View Post
    That would be a wonderful world to live in, but in America right now a trans person has a pretty high chance of being beaten to death, like 1 in 10. That not all rabid leftists doing that.
    Lol, bull$#@!. Where do you get this stuff?
    "The Patriarch"

  20. #107
    Quote Originally Posted by idiom View Post
    Liberals crazy enough to build a society of religious and social tolerance is how we got here. Now we have Marxists and Fascists and the odd theocrat wanting to turn back the clock.

    One of Marx's big problems with Capitalism was that it encouraged women to live like men and broke down "proper" social mores and behaviours.

    Hands up if you think women wearing jeans was a really bad thing. If only there was a nice group of state or religious enforcers around to stop that $#@!.
    Bunk, tolerance has limits, not all of the old societal rules were right but many were and they shouldn't have been done away with.
    Nobody but you is calling for government intervention, make your own society or grow up and deal with the fact that others don't have to accept your insanity.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  21. #108
    Quote Originally Posted by idiom View Post
    That would be a wonderful world to live in, but in America right now a trans person has a pretty high chance of being beaten to death, like 1 in 10. That not all rabid leftists doing that.
    More insanity.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  22. #109
    Quote Originally Posted by idiom View Post
    That would be a wonderful world to live in, but in America right now a trans person has a pretty high chance of being beaten to death, like 1 in 10. That not all rabid leftists doing that.
    You seem to be informed on the subject. Are you trans?

  23. #110
    Quote Originally Posted by idiom View Post
    These are literally marxist talking points.
    LOL
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  24. #111
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    Lol, bull$#@!. Where do you get this stuff?
    Stats. Since y'all like IQ lately here is another gem. Late On-set male to female and female to male transgender groups test with an average IQ of ~122. The early onset cluster has an IQ average near 100 tho.

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...65178105001551
    In New Zealand:
    The Coastguard is a Charity
    Air Traffic Control is a private company run on user fees
    The DMV is a private non-profit
    Rescue helicopters and ambulances are operated by charities and are plastered with corporate logos
    The agriculture industry has zero subsidies
    5% of the national vote, gets you 5 seats in Parliament
    A tax return has 4 fields
    Business licenses aren't a thing
    Prostitution is legal
    We have a constitutional right to refuse any type of medical care

  25. #112
    Quote Originally Posted by idiom View Post
    Stats. Since y'all like IQ lately here is another gem. Late On-set male to female and female to male transgender groups test with an average IQ of ~122. The early onset cluster has an IQ average near 100 tho.

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...65178105001551
    If you're going to quote stats you need to source them. I wasn't inquiring about IQ. And your link didn't say anything about IQ.
    Last edited by Origanalist; 01-21-2019 at 04:46 PM.
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  27. #113
    Quote Originally Posted by idiom View Post
    Stats. Since y'all like IQ lately here is another gem. Late On-set male to female and female to male transgender groups test with an average IQ of ~122. The early onset cluster has an IQ average near 100 tho.

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...65178105001551

    It has long been known that there is a fine line between genius and insanity
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  28. #114
    Quote Originally Posted by idiom View Post
    Stats. Since y'all like IQ lately here is another gem. Late On-set male to female and female to male transgender groups test with an average IQ of ~122. The early onset cluster has an IQ average near 100 tho.

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...65178105001551
    If this were true, then they would know that there
    are two sexes and pretending to be what you're not
    does not change your sex.

  29. #115
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    It has long been known that there is a fine line between genius and insanity
    I think that was just more bs, he's just unnecessarily digging a deeper hole.
    "The Patriarch"

  30. #116
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    I think that was just more bs, he's just unnecessarily digging a deeper hole.
    I'm sure you are right but I was pointing out that even if we accept his assertion it doesn't mean that trannies aren't stark raving mad.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  31. #117
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    I think that was just more bs, he's just unnecessarily digging a deeper hole.
    Gives a citation, still making it up.

    Evidence won't sway you. Your opinions are a priori.
    In New Zealand:
    The Coastguard is a Charity
    Air Traffic Control is a private company run on user fees
    The DMV is a private non-profit
    Rescue helicopters and ambulances are operated by charities and are plastered with corporate logos
    The agriculture industry has zero subsidies
    5% of the national vote, gets you 5 seats in Parliament
    A tax return has 4 fields
    Business licenses aren't a thing
    Prostitution is legal
    We have a constitutional right to refuse any type of medical care

  32. #118
    Quote Originally Posted by Schifference View Post
    You seem to be informed on the subject. Are you trans?
    Would it make a schifference if I was? Is stand-point theory libertarian doctrine now?
    In New Zealand:
    The Coastguard is a Charity
    Air Traffic Control is a private company run on user fees
    The DMV is a private non-profit
    Rescue helicopters and ambulances are operated by charities and are plastered with corporate logos
    The agriculture industry has zero subsidies
    5% of the national vote, gets you 5 seats in Parliament
    A tax return has 4 fields
    Business licenses aren't a thing
    Prostitution is legal
    We have a constitutional right to refuse any type of medical care

  33. #119
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    LOL
    They are genuinely marxist points. Marxist feminists are extremely anti-Trans. Its the post-modernists and individualists who are pro-trans.

    Marxists think Male to Female trans people are just men trying to colonize women and define femininity by how they show that they are Trans. For them the class war is men oppressing women and trans people are oppressive infiltrators.
    In New Zealand:
    The Coastguard is a Charity
    Air Traffic Control is a private company run on user fees
    The DMV is a private non-profit
    Rescue helicopters and ambulances are operated by charities and are plastered with corporate logos
    The agriculture industry has zero subsidies
    5% of the national vote, gets you 5 seats in Parliament
    A tax return has 4 fields
    Business licenses aren't a thing
    Prostitution is legal
    We have a constitutional right to refuse any type of medical care

  34. #120
    Quote Originally Posted by idiom View Post
    Would it make a schifference if I was? Is stand-point theory libertarian doctrine now?
    No but if you are, you should be proud of it and admit it when asked.



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