DC restaurant fined $7k for questioning transgender activist who used women's restroom

[RJB]

My main point, the manager and employee making a scene at the entrance to a bathroom did nothing but escalate a situation and it’s going to cost them 7k. It’s probably chump change..

Chump change? Have you ever ran a business, particularly a restaurant? $7000 can put a restaurant out of business especially during a slow season. These aren't Federal employees with full benefits and full pay during shut downs.

[Suzanimal]

I’m honestly starting to wonder if people put too much stock in the signs on a bathroom door. I’ll try to relate... if I need to use the bathroom, and I come up to a bathroom door that says weirdos only, and I really really gotta go, I might just go in there and do my thing.

My main point, the manager and employee making a scene at the entrance to a bathroom did nothing but escalate a situation and it’s going to cost them 7k. It’s probably chump change. My questioning lies in - were any crimes committed by the freak show ? If they cannot identify a victim, what right does a business owner have to try to detain, and produce an ID from a customer who otherwise was acting within the normal expectations of the establishment?

I am torn because the forced normalization of these freaky freak shows is getting out of hand. On the other hand, as a parent, we accompany our children when they go into a public restroom, and will continue to do so until they are sufficiently mature enough to handle that on their own. We already avoid them at all costs for cleanliness reasons, and prefer they use the restroom at home before and after trips on the town, but when nature calls, a restroom is a restroom. I won’t hesitate to bring my young daughters into a men’s room if it is only I who can supervise them and I’ll be damned if a manager asks for an ID to check and make sure the proper sex is using the proper restroom.

If a freak show goes into the restroom and is trying to peep, harass, or use video recording devices then there is a problem. Until then the toilet flushes piss and $#@! and won’t judge the anatomy of the person that dumped, and that’s enough rambling from me for the night..

1. 7,000.00 isn't chump change
2. wait until your daughters are too old to go in the men's room with you and see if you feel differently about a man dressed as a woman going in after them.

Personally, I think bathroom policies should be left up to the business. For example, what's okay for a nightclub isn't the same as what's okay for a Chuck E Cheese but the law is perverted.

[idiom]

One of my family members go in and then I see him go in after, then there will be a confrontation.

93% of sexual assault against minors is perpetrated by someone known to the victim, so you might want to start confronting people you know to stay away from each other.

[TER]

93% of sexual assault against minors is perpetrated by someone known to the victim, so you might want to start confronting people you know to stay away from each other.

100% of sexual assaults against minors is perpetrated by someone with a mental disorder.

[Swordsmyth]

93% of sexual assault against minors is perpetrated by someone known to the victim, so you might want to start confronting people you know to stay away from each other.

That's because the parents and the children know to beware of the people they don't know, if the parents and children didn't then 99.9% would be by people not known to the victim without any reduction in the absolute numbers committed by people who know the victim.

Weirdos are a much higher threat than straights.

[Brian4Liberty]

One of my family members go in and then I see him go in after, then there will be a confrontation.

I believe the appropriate term is whether they “pass” or “don’t pass” as the gender they want to be. The simple fact is that this person will always be seen as a man wearing make-up and women’s clothes. This is a simple fact. There is nothing that will change this physical reality.

[dannno]

93% of sexual assault against minors is perpetrated by someone known to the victim, so you might want to start confronting people you know to stay away from each other.

It's mostly single mother $#@!buddies, but nice try..

Children who live with a single parent that has a live-in partner are at the highest risk: they are 20 times more likely to be victims of child sexual abuse than children living with both biological parents (Sedlack, et. al., 2010)

[Swordsmyth]

It's mostly single mother $#@!buddies, but nice try..

You must spread some reputation around................

[dannno]

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[idiom]

It's mostly single mother $#@!buddies, but nice try..

Those $#@!buddies would be both straight and known to the child and dressed like normal men.

[idiom]

I believe the appropriate term is whether they “pass” or “don’t pass” as the gender they want to be. The simple fact is that this person will always be seen as a man wearing make-up and women’s clothes. This is a simple fact. There is nothing that will change this physical reality.

FFS would have that individual passing in no time.

[dannno]

Those $#@!buddies would be both straight and known to the child and dressed like normal men.

You said we should protect our kids from people we know, because all these random people we know are the ones raping kids...

That is NOT the case. The case seems to be that when the father is not present to protect their kids, children are raped at 20x the rate.

When a FATHER (most anyway..) sees someone like that following their kid into the freaking bathroom, they are going to get concerned, OK???

[TheTexan]

What about her safety? A beautiful woman such as himself going into the men's room, probably half the men would try to rape her

[Brian4Liberty]

FFS would have that individual passing in no time.

It seems you are more up on the details of the subject. Had to look that up. So FFS is “facial feminization surgery”. And I highly doubt that any amount of surgery would make that person “pass” as female.

[Origanalist]

It seems you are more up on the details of the subject. Had to look that up. So FFS is “facial feminization surgery”. And I highly doubt that any amount of surgery would make that person “pass” as female.

I had to look it up too, I guess we're just not up to date on the hot new exciting things to do.

[RJB]

I thought he was say For F--- Sake. Facial surgery is disfigurement.

[Dr.3D]

One of my family members go in and then I see him go in after, then there will be a confrontation.

That picture reminds me of this 'woman', from the Monty Python group.

[Danke]

It seems you are more up on the details of the subject. Had to look that up. So FFS is “facial feminization surgery”. And I highly doubt that any amount of surgery would make that person “pass” as female.

I think that has been mandatory for males Kiwis many years now.

[Swordsmyth]

Those $#@!buddies would be both straight and known to the child and dressed like normal men.

That isn't necessarily so these days.
And again the only reason people who know the kid are the usual perps is because the parents and the kid know to beware strangers and freaks.

[Swordsmyth]

FFS would have that individual passing in no time.

LOL

[RJB]

I think that has been mandatory for males Kiwis many years now.

I hear it's not too hard to pass. They are born with small kiwis to begin with.

[Brian4Liberty]

That picture reminds me of this 'woman', from the Monty Python group.

And that is the reality. When a person does not “pass”, it is very similar to what has been long estabished as a type of comedy show. Monty Python is just one example. These non-passing people are putting themselves out there as a spectacle, and then they complain when anyone notices.

[idiom]

It seems you are more up on the details of the subject. Had to look that up. So FFS is “facial feminization surgery”. And I highly doubt that any amount of surgery would make that person “pass” as female.

The differences is gender cues are pretty small. After FFS which capitalism and liberty is making widely available, the big differences for this person as someone transitioning late till be voice and comportment each of which takes a while to re-learn how to act in society. While part of that is biology, testosterone deepens the voice, knowing how to carry yourself and talk using properly submissive cues varies widely by culture. Its a lot easier to pass in a country you didn't grow up in, because you don't "man" correctly either.

The more freedom smaller governments protect, and the more capitalism advances technology, the more optional biological constraints will become. Every man, and each woman, already contain in their DNA a full set of plans for both genders, the Y chromosome is mostly just a key which switches between to options. This will become straight forward to manipulate at the genetic level in the near future and will require them wonderful totalitarian measures to stop people switching at the DNA level.

Either you are going to need to advocate some form of government ID to regulate peoples behaviour, or if you are more into liberty, you will need to find a way to reconcile with people doing a lot more of anything they want with their bodies.

The propaganda is highly repetitive though. Something other than marijuana turns people into rapists, being gay is a mental disorder to be treated with shock therapy or death maybe?

Freedom of expression should be a libertarian strong point, instead its being left to the marxists who will inevitably start murdering Jews and *****s as soon as they gain control.

[Schifference]

The differences is gender cues are pretty small. After FFS which capitalism and liberty is making widely available, the big differences for this person as someone transitioning late till be voice and comportment each of which takes a while to re-learn how to act in society. While part of that is biology, testosterone deepens the voice, knowing how to carry yourself and talk using properly submissive cues varies widely by culture. Its a lot easier to pass in a country you didn't grow up in, because you don't "man" correctly either.

The more freedom smaller governments protect, and the more capitalism advances technology, the more optional biological constraints will become. Every man, and each woman, already contain in their DNA a full set of plans for both genders, the Y chromosome is mostly just a key which switches between to options. This will become straight forward to manipulate at the genetic level in the near future and will require them wonderful totalitarian measures to stop people switching at the DNA level.

Either you are going to need to advocate some form of government ID to regulate peoples behaviour, or if you are more into liberty, you will need to find a way to reconcile with people doing a lot more of anything they want with their bodies.

The propaganda is highly repetitive though. Something other than marijuana turns people into rapists, being gay is a mental disorder to be treated with shock therapy or death maybe?

Freedom of expression should be a libertarian strong point, instead its being left to the marxists who will inevitably start murdering Jews and *****s as soon as they gain control.

The problem as I see it is not the acceptance of people but the demand by people that society has to change to meet each individuals perception.

[idiom]

The problem as I see it is not the acceptance of people but the demand by people that society has to change to meet each individuals perception.

Yeah, that'd be the marxists completely owning the vacuum left by the libertarians and liberals.

One asks that you be polite to people who are different, the other demands you behave a certain way.

Most of the Trans people in your environment pass entirely. You are blissfully unaware of their lives. This is because they are liable to be murdered if they didn't live this way. Now libertarians could pretty easily be for not murdering people because of the way they dress. Instead the marxists use trans people and others as a tool to gain social power, a tool they will discard later when they go back to being conservatives.

[Brian4Liberty]

The differences is gender cues are pretty small. After FFS which capitalism and liberty is making widely available, the big differences for this person as someone transitioning late till be voice and comportment each of which takes a while to re-learn how to act in society. While part of that is biology, testosterone deepens the voice, knowing how to carry yourself and talk using properly submissive cues varies widely by culture. Its a lot easier to pass in a country you didn't grow up in, because you don't "man" correctly either.

The more freedom smaller governments protect, and the more capitalism advances technology, the more optional biological constraints will become. Every man, and each woman, already contain in their DNA a full set of plans for both genders, the Y chromosome is mostly just a key which switches between to options. This will become straight forward to manipulate at the genetic level in the near future and will require them wonderful totalitarian measures to stop people switching at the DNA level.

Either you are going to need to advocate some form of government ID to regulate peoples behaviour, or if you are more into liberty, you will need to find a way to reconcile with people doing a lot more of anything they want with their bodies.

The propaganda is highly repetitive though. Something other than marijuana turns people into rapists, being gay is a mental disorder to be treated with shock therapy or death maybe?

Freedom of expression should be a libertarian strong point, instead its being left to the marxists who will inevitably start murdering Jews and *****s as soon as they gain control.

Once again, I highly doubt that FFS would help this specific individual. And you can’t ignore other physical cues like broad shoulders and stocky build.

As far as a science fiction sex-changing DNA-changing treatment coming anytime soon, don’t hold your breath.

[idiom]

Once again, I highly doubt that FFS would help this specific individual. And you can’t ignore other physical cues like broad shoulders and stocky build.

As far as a science fiction sex-changing DNA-changing treatment coming anytime soon, don’t hold your breath.

In the meantime you have the option of being polite and making someones day better, or trying to control their behavior through social pressure.

[Schifference]

Restaurants should have a hand washing station for people that just want to wash hands before or after dining. They should have a single stall bathroom with only cold water and no heat. Make it as uncomfortable in the bathroom as possible so people don't want to use it.

[RJB]

In the meantime you have the option of being polite and making someones day better, or trying to control their behavior through social pressure.

Are you talking about the guy who looked like someone in drag from a Monty Python skit who was rude enough to cause a scene as others were simply enjoying a meal because they aren't into being socially pressured into accepting this intersectional PC BS. Because a 7K fine is the pressure that is actually being applied.

Come on Idi. Even Zippy was smart enough to drop this baton.

[Swordsmyth]

The differences is gender cues are pretty small. After FFS which capitalism and liberty is making widely available, the big differences for this person as someone transitioning late till be voice and comportment each of which takes a while to re-learn how to act in society. While part of that is biology, testosterone deepens the voice, knowing how to carry yourself and talk using properly submissive cues varies widely by culture. Its a lot easier to pass in a country you didn't grow up in, because you don't "man" correctly either.

The more freedom smaller governments protect, and the more capitalism advances technology, the more optional biological constraints will become. Every man, and each woman, already contain in their DNA a full set of plans for both genders, the Y chromosome is mostly just a key which switches between to options. This will become straight forward to manipulate at the genetic level in the near future and will require them wonderful totalitarian measures to stop people switching at the DNA level.

Either you are going to need to advocate some form of government ID to regulate peoples behaviour, or if you are more into liberty, you will need to find a way to reconcile with people doing a lot more of anything they want with their bodies.

The propaganda is highly repetitive though. Something other than marijuana turns people into rapists, being gay is a mental disorder to be treated with shock therapy or death maybe?

Freedom of expression should be a libertarian strong point, instead its being left to the marxists who will inevitably start murdering Jews and *****s as soon as they gain control.

Refusing to accept your insanity is our right, if you don't like it you can lump it.
You freaks are the ones who are trying to use government to overcome people's normal instincts and change culture by force.