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Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
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..Annnnnnnnnnd he botched it. Default disappointment, here we are!
He was in a strong position, then dangled this stinker out there as part of the negotiations, making him look yet again, unnecessarily weak.
This is the stuff we are used to at this point with him, 1 step forward, 3 steps back. He knows with 100% certainty how much this angers his base, yet he does so anyways. He actually has had moments to grow his base when withdrawing troops out of the middle east and committing to the shut down, but then pulls this and undoes most of that progress.
Did he spill the beans yet, or still warming up.....?
There is plenty of time left for him to declare an emergency and build the wall but he is making the Demoncrats look insane and unreasonable right now, he needs to drive moderates away from the Demoncrats in addition to pleasing his base.
There will be no deal but now everyone knows whose fault that is.
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Another majorly hyped event which turned out to be insignificant.
Trump playing chess while the dems are playing checkers.
This was a great move if the dems don’t bite and don’t take it.
And if they do, Trump will still get a win out of it, no matter what the fake stream media and their paid shills will say.
+'These things I command you, that you love one another.' - Jesus Christ
EM
While back when he first shocked his base and angered Brietbart, there were rumors that hardline stance on this issue was not ok'd by his top funder.
Incidentally, his top funder who reportedly is a democrat has been on receiving end of criticism from some hard Right conservatives for years.
Ann Coulter attacks Adelson on immigration and banning online gambling
MAGA Allies: 'Bully Israel with undeclared nukes steals land'
Dangerous conspiracy theories on Right claim MAGA fake frontgroup
Poll: Should US apologize for financing radicalization of Afghan children in 80s?
Obama-Clinton Years: A Violent Chapter in World History
Trump: If (Neocon) Adelson Backs Rubio "He'll Have Total Control" Over Him
Delta variant, death of 9 Chinese engineers in terror attack led to airport chaos & quick Kabul fall?
For those who watched speech, did this topic come up at all?
CONFIRMED: President Trump Can Start Laying Off Furloughed Workers After 30 Days
EM
While back when he first shocked his base and angered Breitbart, there were rumors that hardline stance on this issue was not ok'd by his top funder.
Incidentally, his top funder who reportedly is a democrat has been on receiving end of criticism from some hard Right conservatives for years.
Ann Coulter attacks Adelson on immigration and banning online gambling
Hardcore Conservative Right at Breitbart is turning on MAGA again:
https://www.breitbart.com/
MAGA Allies: 'Bully Israel with undeclared nukes steals land'
Dangerous conspiracy theories on Right claim MAGA fake frontgroup
Poll: Should US apologize for financing radicalization of Afghan children in 80s?
Obama-Clinton Years: A Violent Chapter in World History
Trump: If (Neocon) Adelson Backs Rubio "He'll Have Total Control" Over Him
Delta variant, death of 9 Chinese engineers in terror attack led to airport chaos & quick Kabul fall?
He is breaking the deep state, fixing the CIA, and there have been plenty of arrests so far, particularly of sex traffickers and child molestors. Entire rings broken up and arrested, especially in the last two weeks alone. Sorry you keep forgetting that.
The offer of Amnesty for 3 years is definitely a chess move.After Announcement: "Amnesty's just part of 2019-D chess..."
+'These things I command you, that you love one another.' - Jesus Christ
If he ran in 2020, Adelson's support is almost certainly in the bag for MAGA. More than any other issue, #1 issue for MAGA's top funder is Israel and that has been MAGA's top priority also in actions (strategic ambiguity creating rhetoric aside). MAGA's democrat top funder, who never raised money for US Veterans but raised $60 Million for Israel military, switched his political horses from Dems to GOP because Dems had started to act wobbly on his #1 cause Israel. MAGA has been stellar in comparison.
GOP controlled US Senate’s First Bill, in Midst of Shutdown, to ensure $38B Aid to Israel and no boycotts
Hollywood stars and Trump's top donor Adelson raise record $60m for Israel army
Trump Administration Cuts $25 Million In Medical Aid To Palestinians
Israel plans a Trump station as Trump-naming frenzy sweeps country
Dec 27, 2017
Trump is a Friend of Zion
MAGA Allies: 'Bully Israel with undeclared nukes steals land'
Dangerous conspiracy theories on Right claim MAGA fake frontgroup
Poll: Should US apologize for financing radicalization of Afghan children in 80s?
Obama-Clinton Years: A Violent Chapter in World History
Trump: If (Neocon) Adelson Backs Rubio "He'll Have Total Control" Over Him
Delta variant, death of 9 Chinese engineers in terror attack led to airport chaos & quick Kabul fall?
$800 million for "humanitarian assistance".
$805 million for "drug detection equipment".
75 more "judge teams" to try to reduce the nearly 100,000 immigration cases pending (no cases can be heard during the shutdown so the total is rising).
2,700 more border/ law enforcement agents.
Last edited by Zippyjuan; 01-19-2019 at 07:32 PM.
The optics have nothing to do with whether he will start rounding them up on Monday to deport, it has to do with Trump offering a compromise and the Dems rejecting it. It now becomes the Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer shutdown, at least that is the intended effect I believe. If the public thinks this is a good and fair deal, then the dems look bad. It’s political theater.
+'These things I command you, that you love one another.' - Jesus Christ
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Reaction to the plan was generally favorable, with some pro-American border security advocates taking a more negative approach. Mark Krikorian, Executive Director of the Center for Immigration Studies, expressed a nuanced approach towards the deal, stating he’d wait to read detailed language on the proposal before declaring support.
I hate to disappoint, but (assuming the details are what the president laid out) this is not a terrible deal. No expansion of amnesty for illegals who don't already have it in exch. for more imm. judges, more agents, more tech, more wall. But I'll wait to see the actual language.
— Mark Krikorian (@MarkSKrikorian) January 19, 2019
More at: https://bigleaguepolitics.com/inside...-the-shutdown/
And he knew they wouldn't accept it anyway.
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Reportedly some GOP base/conservatives are angry going by MSM reporting.
Drudge headlines tone is starting to look similar to that of Breitbart / Coulter blog.
In unrelated news:
Shut gov doesn't stop Trump from holding a beautiful diversity ceremony at White House
Last edited by enhanced_deficit; 01-20-2019 at 01:18 PM.
MAGA Allies: 'Bully Israel with undeclared nukes steals land'
Dangerous conspiracy theories on Right claim MAGA fake frontgroup
Poll: Should US apologize for financing radicalization of Afghan children in 80s?
Obama-Clinton Years: A Violent Chapter in World History
Trump: If (Neocon) Adelson Backs Rubio "He'll Have Total Control" Over Him
Delta variant, death of 9 Chinese engineers in terror attack led to airport chaos & quick Kabul fall?
This is more a of a Bugs Bunny then I ever hoped to imagine. Trump got the left to refuse their own bill of goods that they have been trying to push down our throats for all of these years just out of spite of having to refuse Trumps deal to look tough with their voters. I am starting to like this Trump derangement syndrome.
Politicians not following through on what they said they wanted when they finally have a chance to get it? Ain't no new news here ...
Republicans routinely say they want fiscal constraint - except when they're actually in a position to exercise it. How is this really any different?
Last edited by Occam's Banana; 01-20-2019 at 03:21 PM.
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
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