Trump says he will make a ‘major’ announcement on Saturday

[pcosmar]

I have seen this Circus Show before.
But with a different clown.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigr...ol_Act_of_1986

[pcosmar]

Trump has the laser.

No,, just the Spotlight.

[RonZeplin]

I have seen this Circus Show before.
But with a different clown.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigr...ol_Act_of_1986

The 1st Reconquista Republican Amnesty

[Stratovarious]

So , If I have this right; The DACA chip thrown into the pot, this is a
very 'not thought through' play on Trump's part, this is a chip that can't
be taken back, a freebie that Trump can't withdraw, Nancy Peyote will
bleed him/us dry with further demands.

[Swordsmyth]

So , If I have this right; The DACA chip thrown into the pot, this is a
very 'not thought through' play on Trump's part, this is a chip that can't
be taken back, a freebie that Trump can't withdraw, Nancy Peyote will
bleed him/us dry with further demands.

I disagree, Trump can refuse any future deal.

He knew that they would refuse the deal and he could make them look bad without giving up anything.

There will be no deal and DACA and TPS will not get a three year reprieve let alone amnesty.

[Stratovarious]

I disagree, Trump can refuse any future deal.

He knew that they would refuse the deal and he could make them look bad without giving up anything.

There will be no deal and DACA and TPS will not get a three year reprieve let alone amnesty.

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I wasn't clear, when I say 'can't' I mean 'won't', how does he throw out amnesty to thousands of
children and hope to the parents, then pull that rug out, he knows what that will look like , sure
he can take it back , but he won't, and I sure hope I'm wrong, everyone knows that any kind of
amnesty encourages and promotes further border crashing.
Now, for Nancy to take the deal would mean that it was never about the money, never about
the 5 billion, and we all know that that is true anyway, anything to put a thorn in Trump's side
is all liberals care about, they are blind to anything else.As I've said, if Trump had announced in 2016 that he was taking down the border fencing/ walls, liberals
would have rioted in the streets.

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[Swordsmyth]

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I wasn't clear, when I say 'can't' I mean 'won't', how does he throw out amnesty to thousands of
children and hope to the parents, then pull that rug out, he knows what that will look like , sure
he can take it back , but he won't, and I sure hope I'm wrong, everyone knows that any kind of
amnesty encourages and promotes further border crashing.
Now, for Nancy to take the deal would mean that it was never about the money, never about
the 5 billion, and we all know that that is true anyway, anything to put a thorn in Trump's side
is all liberals care about, they are blind to anything else.As I've said, if Trump had announced in 2016 that he was taking down the border fencing/ walls, liberals
would have rioted in the streets.

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He just has to never offer it again, the wall is going to be built without a deal using an emergency declaration.

There won't be a deal, the Demoncrats have painted themselves into a corner, they can't agree to the wall and they can't agree to any of the fixes to our immigration laws that Trump's offer might be part of, when they lose the House in 2020 Trump will not need to compromise with them.

[Stratovarious]

He just has to never offer it again, the wall is going to be built without a deal using an emergency declaration.

There won't be a deal, the Demoncrats have painted themselves into a corner, they can't agree to the wall and they can't agree to any of the fixes to our immigration laws that Trump's offer might be part of, when they lose the House in 2020 Trump will not need to compromise with them.

I don't see the DACA offer ever disappearing, I see what you're saying, just don't see it happening
no matter how we get the wall built, he should have dropped this whole Nancy negotiating and
just had the Military budget cover the wall, good lord we all know that that is what our
Military should be spending money on instead of intervening all over the world.
I'll bet you 75 cents that DACA never goes away, I hope I lose.

[Swordsmyth]

I don't see the DACA offer ever disappearing, I see what you're saying, just don't see it happening
no matter how we get the wall built, he should have dropped this whole Nancy negotiating and
just had the Military budget cover the wall, good lord we all know that that is what our
Military should be spending money on instead of intervening all over the world.
I'll bet you 75 cents that DACA never goes away, I hope I lose.

He wants the shutdown to go on until further notice, in order to do that he can't declare the emergency and build the wall yet or he would have to sign the original budget bill, he also has to look like he is trying to end the shutdown by offering Nancy Pelosi a compromise while she refuses to give him $1 in return for anything.

DACA will go away when RBG is replaced and SCOTUS overrules the leftist judges and the emergency will be declared and the wall construction will begin sometime in 2020 when Trump thinks it will best affect the election.

[Stratovarious]

He wants the shutdown to go on until further notice, in order to do that he can't declare the emergency and build the wall yet or he would have to sign the original budget bill, he also has to look like he is trying to end the shutdown by offering Nancy Pelosi a compromise while she refuses to give him $1 in return for anything.

DACA will go away when RBG is replaced and SCOTUS overrules the leftist judges and the emergency will be declared and the wall construction will begin sometime in 2020 when Trump thinks it will best affect the election.

MMM will still put ALL the blame on Trump for the shut down.
I hope the Wall construction doesn't wait till 2020.

[timosman]

He wants the shutdown to go on until further notice, in order to do that he can't declare the emergency and build the wall yet or he would have to sign the original budget bill, he also has to look like he is trying to end the shutdown by offering Nancy Pelosi a compromise while she refuses to give him $1 in return for anything.

DACA will go away when RBG is replaced and SCOTUS overrules the leftist judges and the emergency will be declared and the wall construction will begin sometime in 2020 when Trump thinks it will best affect the election.

This cow needs to be milked for a while.

[Swordsmyth]

MMM will still put ALL the blame on Trump for the shut down.

But will independents believe them?
And how many government workers will quit?
How much donation money will the Demoncrats lose with so many government workers going without paychecks?
How many liberals will agree with Cher and blame Pelosi and Schumer?
Cher asks Nancy Pelosi to end government shutdown before Trump: 'LET HIM HAVE HIS FKNG MONEY'

I hope the Wall construction doesn't wait till 2020.

If the military is sent to the border instead I don't care, the shutdown is very good.

[Stratovarious]

But will independents believe them?
And how many government workers will quit?
How much donation money will the Demoncrats lose with so many government workers going without paychecks?
How many liberals will agree with Cher and blame Pelosi and Schumer?
Cher asks Nancy Pelosi to end government shutdown before Trump: 'LET HIM HAVE HIS FKNG MONEY'




If the military is sent to the border instead I don't care, the shutdown is very good.

I have to head out SS, I'd like to see 10 of our agencies gutted, or shut down completely,
temp down is good but really down is what we really need.
Manana my good friend.....

[Swordsmyth]

I have to head out SS, I'd like to see 10 of our agencies gutted, or shut down completely,
temp down is good but really down is what we really need.
Manana my good friend.....

Have a good one.

[euphemia]

Trump playing chess while the dems are playing checkers.

This was a great move if the dems don’t bite and don’t take it.

And if they do, Trump will still get a win out of it, no matter what the fake stream media and their paid shills will say.

This ^^^

Trump knows exactly what he’s doing.

Congress could have settled the whole DACA thing years ago, but they were cowards. Now it’s on the table and they are cowards again.

Trump doesn’t mind take responsibility for the shutdown.

[Swordsmyth]

I just realized that the temporary DACA deal was a trap Trump set, if Congress passes a 3 year extension then by law it will end in 3 years and the courts can't try to keep it frozen in limbo forever.

[pcosmar]

, the shutdown is very good.

What Phucking Shutdown?

the $hit continues,

[Swordsmyth]

What Phucking Shutdown?

the $hit continues,

800,000 government workers and an unknown (to me) number of government contractors aren't being paid, if it continues long enough many of them will quit and other departments will be affected.

It may not be perfect but what isn't good about that?

[pcosmar]

800,000 government workers and an unknown (to me) number of government contractors aren't being paid, if it continues long enough many of them will quit and other departments will be affected.

It may not be perfect but what isn't good about that?

Heard that $hit before and nothing changes.

I have absolutely no reason to believe it will be in any way significantly different this time.
I have no reason to believe it is really true,, and even if so, it is half stepping.

I think they will play out the theatrics for a while.

[enhanced_deficit]

I just realized that the temporary DACA deal was a trap Trump set..

And he knew they wouldn't accept it anyway.

So it was trap that he knew won't trap anything, in other words it was a fake-trap then?

[Swordsmyth]

So it was trap that he knew won't trap anything, in other words it was a fake-trap then?

It was an obvious trap meant to ensure that they would reject the deal and look unreasonable.