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    $9000/month is pain ?

    To fight H1-B visas, an American said "working for $9000/month will be pain, but we will have the jobs"



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    We have a population of 350 million Americans. Obviously there are enough people qualified here to handle these high skilled professions.

    Anyone that says we need to import foreign citizens for these positions is essentially a traitor to the American people and should be treated as such. The media talks about all these foreign threats but other than 9/11 they have not killed Americans here or take food from the table of American citizens or make American citizens subservient to these preferred immigrants. H-1B however is exactly that and a threat to the American people.

    I am all for keeping Gitmo open as long as we send these scumbag treasonous politicians that support H-1B's there.
    Last edited by kahless; 01-12-2019 at 02:18 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kahless View Post
    We have a population of 350 million Americans. Obviously there are enough people qualified here to handle these high skilled professions.Anyone that says we need to import foreign citizens for these positions is essentially a traitor to the American people and should be treated as such. The media talks about all these foreign threats but other than 9/11 they have not killed Americans here or take food from the table of American citizens or make American citizens subservient to these preferred immigrants. H-1B however is a threat to the American people. I am all for keeping Gitmo open as long as we send these scumbag treasonous politicians that support H-1B's there.
    Donald Trump keeps saying "invasion"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itsback View Post
    Donald Trump keeps saying "invasion"
    He is proposing limiting the invasion on one end while doing nothing and allowing a full blown H-1B invasion with a pathway to citizenship which will include millions more in chain migration.

    Using the "invasion" word fools the ignorant into believing he is actually doing something rather than leading the invasion for the elites with H-1B.
    Last edited by kahless; 01-14-2019 at 12:45 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kahless View Post
    We have a population of 350 million Americans. Obviously there are enough people qualified here to handle these high skilled professions.
    Technology is like semi-automatic washing machine and automatic washing machine.

    There will be less need for IT/Tech products and services. Silicon Valley will have 40% less IT/Tech companies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kahless View Post
    We have a population of 350 million Americans. Obviously there are enough people qualified here to handle these high skilled professions.

    Anyone that says we need to import foreign citizens for these positions is essentially a traitor to the American people and should be treated as such. The media talks about all these foreign threats but other than 9/11 they have not killed Americans here or take food from the table of American citizens or make American citizens subservient to these preferred immigrants. H-1B however is exactly that and a threat to the American people.

    I am all for keeping Gitmo open as long as we send these scumbag treasonous politicians that support H-1B's there.
    Take a look at these pictures. https://ioe.engin.umich.edu/role/graduate-students/


    These are grad students at a typical engineering school. I count 9 white kids and one black girl out of 160 .

    Here is the reality. You are wrong. American kids don't compete at the top in engineering. Do you think educating the best minds and sending them home afterwards is the best use of intellectual resources?
    Last edited by Krugminator2; 01-12-2019 at 08:32 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krugminator2 View Post
    Take a look at these pictures. https://ioe.engin.umich.edu/role/graduate-students/


    These are grad students at a typical engineering school. I count 9 white kids and one black girl out of 160 .

    Here is the reality. You are wrong. American kids don't compete at the top in engineering. Do you think educating the best minds and sending them home afterwards is the best use of intellectual resources?
    So we need to end student visas too.

    Maybe college would become more affordable for Americans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    So we need to end student visas too.

    Maybe college would become more affordable for Americans.

    Good point. I'm sure a bunch of stupid kids who can't compete will create the innovation that will propel humanity forward.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Krugminator2 View Post
    Good point. I'm sure a bunch of stupid kids who can't compete will create the innovation that will propel humanity forward.
    And I'm sure that American kids are discriminated against in favor of foreigners and that they can compete just fine.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    And I'm sure that American kids are discriminated against in favor of foreigners and that they can compete just fine.
    American kids are discriminated against foreign kids. American kids have lower IQs and are lazier thus get worse grades.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krugminator2 View Post
    American kids are discriminated against foreign kids. American kids have lower IQs and are lazier thus get worse grades.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krugminator2 View Post
    American kids are discriminated against foreign kids. American kids have lower IQs and are lazier thus get worse grades.
    Or maybe its American Schools are failing American Children? Its not the problem of kids failing school, but the other way around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    So we need to end student visas too.

    Maybe college would become more affordable for Americans.
    Maybe it shouldn't be such a mind numbing experience.

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    I am age 41. Never paid taxes because income is below taxation limit. I am big bodybuilder but I eat 4 chickens/month for past 5 years (less money).

    $7000/month in USA is very good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itsback View Post
    I am age 41. Never paid taxes because income is below taxation limit. I am big bodybuilder but I eat 4 chickens/month for past 5 years (less money).

    $7000/month in USA is very good.
    When I was 21 I would eat four chickens in four days.
    Do something Danke

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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    When I was 21 I would eat four chickens in four days.
    When I was age 25, I was walking in Mumbai. An American man was walking some 20 feet away. He shouted and told me to stop or slow down. I was big at age 25.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Itsback View Post
    When I was age 25, I was walking in Mumbai. An American man was walking some 20 feet away. He shouted and told me to stop or slow down. I was big at age 25.
    When I walked into Bombay people would make way . I never though got a chance to see the elephant caves , too busy working .
    Do something Danke

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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    When I was 21 I would eat four chickens in four days.
    When I was 21, I lived on Boone's Farm and noodles. I only got chickens and good booze when I went on dates or my parents house.
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    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post
    When I was 21, I lived on Boone's Farm and noodles. I only got chickens and good booze when I went on dates or my parents house.
    I would have taken you out for fancy chicken and good booze .
    Do something Danke

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    Quote Originally Posted by kahless View Post
    We have a population of 350 million Americans. Obviously there are enough people qualified here to handle these high skilled professions.
    There's one way to test this hypothesis.

    Lift all limitations on hiring foreign workers, and if after doing that, companies decide not to hire any, that means there's already enough Americans to do it.

    Leave it up to the market, not socialist central planners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfluous Man View Post
    Leave it up to the market, not socialist central planners.
    But then you don't get to scream and cry and have wet meltdowns for the tool the fake news says isn't a tool, and call those who see he's a tool all kinds of nasty names, before finding out he's a tool and you just got suckered into screwing us all.

    Don't you know how the world works? Why would we demand to be allowed to be self-reliant when we can spend every fourth year slandering people who tell us the truth about the fascist who is kissing our asses?

    Freedom's all right, I guess, but not as much fun as abusing the people who tell me my favorite fascist really is a fascist. Of course, two years later we all look like total asses and we're still not free. But somehow that's always forgotten again when election year rolls around again and we get to abuse each other for pointing out that the fake news is lying to us again.

    Talk freedom all you want. In 2020 kahless will still have a new favorite fascist, and will still abuse you for telling the truth.
    Last edited by acptulsa; 01-14-2019 at 09:24 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    There's not a liberty lover on the planet who isn't called a liberal by the right, and a con by the left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfluous Man View Post
    There's one way to test this hypothesis.

    Lift all limitations on hiring foreign workers, and if after doing that, companies decide not to hire any, that means there's already enough Americans to do it.

    Leave it up to the market, not socialist central planners.
    At first thought it seems a worthy experiment . Probably though the end result would be a yr later more foreigners using charity resources .
    Do something Danke

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    But then you don't get to scream and cry and have wet meltdowns for the tool the fake news says isn't a tool, and call those who see he's a tool all kinds of nasty names, before finding out he's a tool and you just got suckered into screwing us all.

    Don't you know how the world works? Why would we demand to be allowed to be self-reliant when we can spend every fourth year slandering people who tell us the truth about the fascist who is kissing our asses?

    Freedom's all right, I guess, but not as much fun as abusing the people who tell me my favorite fascist really is a fascist. Of course, two years later we all look like total asses and we're still not free. But somehow that's always forgotten again when election year rolls around again and we get to abuse each other for pointing out that the fake news is lying to us again.

    Talk freedom all you want. In 2020 kahless will still have a new favorite fascist, and will still abuse you for telling the truth.
    Supporting candidates that have the best chance of realistically reducing the size and influence of government is not supporting fascism. Believing the goal to achieve a more libertarian like society within the US in our life time is impossible through policies that advocate for foreign citizens and open borders, does not make one a supporter of fascism.

    A more libertarian like society in our life time or at the very least reducing it's role in our lives is only realistically possible if we slow it down and and throw a wrench into the works. Doing nothing or supporting candidates that have no realistic chance of reducing the size of government will accelerate the opposite.

    Your proposed implementation of your belief system with blatant disregard to the political reality within the US will result in policies detrimental to US citizens which will ensure citizens out of frustration, desperation and ignorance adopt a political system and election of politicians counter to limited government belief system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kahless View Post
    Supporting candidates that have the best chance of realistically reducing the size and influence of government is not supporting fascism.
    Sure it is--if they're fascists.

    Of course, you can claim no one warned you they're fascists--until someone does.

    At the very least a person can refrain from abusing the people who tell them their favorite fascist is a fascist, instead of doubling down and removing any hope that anyone will ever take one seriously again.
    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    There's not a liberty lover on the planet who isn't called a liberal by the right, and a con by the left.



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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    At first thought it seems a worthy experiment . Probably though the end result would be a yr later more foreigners using charity resources .
    And Demoncrat super majorities everywhere.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Sure it is--if they're fascists.

    Of course, you can claim no one warned you they're fascists--until someone does.

    At the very least a person can refrain from abusing the people who tell them their favorite fascist is a fascist, instead of doubling down and removing any hope that anyone will ever take one seriously again.
    Orange man bad. Got it.

    By the way the tactics of abusing people in this forum were all coming from you and your ilk against anyone that simply agreed with certain aspects of Trump policies. There are people here that were or are anti-Trump you abused in these forums as well for simply supporting policies that Trump supported. This included policies that were listed in the Presidential platforms for Ron and Rand's campaign platform. These are the same tactics the far left uses against anyone on the right. I think this says allot about you and why you are here.

    Based on that this is the last reply you will get from me since there is no point in me wasting my time with you and your lies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kahless View Post
    He is proposing limiting the invasion on one end while doing nothing and allowing a full blown H-1B invasion with a pathway to citizenship which will include millions more in chain migration.

    Using the "invasion" word fools the ignorant into believing he is actually doing something rather than leading the invasion for the elites with H-1B.
    Quote Originally Posted by kahless View Post
    Orange man bad. Got it.
    Well, yes, that looked like what you were saying. Of course, no matter how badly he screws his supporters by not keeping his promises, you spammed for him and now you own him, right? So when push comes to shove, you will always revert to your same old cliches, right?

    Quote Originally Posted by kahless View Post
    By the way the tactics of abusing people in this forum were all coming from you and your ilk against anyone that simply agreed with certain aspects of Trump policies. There are people here that were or are anti-Trump you abused in these forums as well for simply supporting policies that Trump supported. This included policies that were listed in the Presidential platforms for Ron and Rand's campaign platform. These are the same tactics the far left uses against anyone on the right. I think this says allot about you and why you are here.

    Based on that this is the last reply you will get from me since there is no point in me wasting my time with you and your lies.
    1. Come to website of candidate one doesn't support.

    2. Start spamming candidate one does support.

    3. Abuse anyone who explains why we gathered here to support a better candidate.

    4. Wait for the inevitable reaction.

    5. Play victim card.

    No wonder you like Trump. You, like him, are really a Democrat.
    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    There's not a liberty lover on the planet who isn't called a liberal by the right, and a con by the left.

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