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    F.B.I. Opened Inquiry Into Whether Trump Secretly Working on Behalf of Russia

    NY Times goes full retard......


    Following President Trump’s firing of James B. Comey as F.B.I. director, the bureau grew increasingly concerned about whether the president’s actions constituted anti-American activity.CreditCreditSarah Silbiger/The New York Times

    By Adam Goldman, Michael S. Schmidt and Nicholas Fandos

    Jan. 11, 2019

    WASHINGTON — In the days after President Trump fired James B. Comey as F.B.I. director, law enforcement officials became so concerned by the president’s behavior that they began investigating whether he had been working on behalf of Russia against American interests, according to former law enforcement officials and others familiar with the investigation.

    The inquiry carried explosive implications. Counterintelligence investigators had to consider whether the president’s own actions constituted a possible threat to national security. Agents also sought to determine whether Mr. Trump was knowingly working for Russia or had unwittingly fallen under Moscow’s influence.

    The investigation the F.B.I. opened into Mr. Trump also had a criminal aspect, which has long been publicly known: whether his firing of Mr. Comey constituted obstruction of justice.

    More lunacy as the story continues....https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/11/u...a-inquiry.html
    "The Patriarch"

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    The man did not think clearly. It was almost as if he had brain cancer of something.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    NY Times goes full retard......


    Following President Trump’s firing of James B. Comey as F.B.I. director, the bureau grew increasingly concerned about whether the president’s actions constituted anti-American activity.CreditCreditSarah Silbiger/The New York Times

    By Adam Goldman, Michael S. Schmidt and Nicholas Fandos

    Jan. 11, 2019

    WASHINGTON — In the days after President Trump fired James B. Comey as F.B.I. director, law enforcement officials became so concerned by the president’s behavior that they began investigating whether he had been working on behalf of Russia against American interests, according to former law enforcement officials and others familiar with the investigation.

    The inquiry carried explosive implications. Counterintelligence investigators had to consider whether the president’s own actions constituted a possible threat to national security. Agents also sought to determine whether Mr. Trump was knowingly working for Russia or had unwittingly fallen under Moscow’s influence.

    The investigation the F.B.I. opened into Mr. Trump also had a criminal aspect, which has long been publicly known: whether his firing of Mr. Comey constituted obstruction of justice.

    More lunacy as the story continues....https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/11/u...a-inquiry.html
    In this case Nixon's assertion applies: If the President does it it's not illegal

    The president is the one chosen by the American people to determine our geopolitical/diplomatic position, if he says Russia isn't our enemy then Russia isn't our enemy.
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    NYT is losing all credibility and making the Enquirer a more credible source. Enough already. What the hell world am I living in where this totally retarded nonsense is being taken seriously by supposed legitimate media.

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    ''...whether the president’s own actions constituted a possible threat to national security...''
    They have Hillary 'red handed' and admittedly guilty of being a THREAT TO NATIONAL SECURITY,
    so instead of prosecution they dream up constant diversions.
    The NYT is collisional in protecting Hillary from Justice.

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    Following President Trump’s firing of James B. Comey as F.B.I. director, the bureau grew increasingly concerned about whether the president’s actions constituted anti-American activity.CreditCreditSarah Silbiger/The New York Times

    By Adam Goldman, Michael S. Schmidt and Nicholas Fandos

    Jan. 11, 2019
    ...
    That door is bigger than my Jeep.

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    "The Patriarch"

    willie with tan lines: enjoy the shots and the woman
    Quote Originally Posted by Schifference View Post
    The man did not think clearly. It was almost as if he had brain cancer of something.

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    "The Patriarch"

    willie with tan lines: enjoy the shots and the woman
    Quote Originally Posted by Schifference View Post
    The man did not think clearly. It was almost as if he had brain cancer of something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stratovarious View Post
    ''...whether the president’s own actions constituted a possible threat to national security...''
    They have Hillary 'red handed' and admittedly guilty of being a THREAT TO NATIONAL SECURITY,
    so instead of prosecution they dream up constant diversions.
    The NYT is collisional in protecting Hillary from Justice.
    substitute 'NATIONAL SECURITY' with 'DEEP STATE' and you have your answer.
    “Force the normies into taking sides. At the moment they are just like "meh, I am minding my own business" retreating culturally into their private bubbles and "safe-spaces" since they don't understand what is going on. When the actual "us vs them" starts, they will be forced to fight or they'll die.” - Anonymous Poster



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    These FBI clowns are such a disgrace.
    I just want objectivity on this forum and will point out flawed sources or points of view at my leisure.

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    The shooting of Gabrielle Gifford was blamed on putting a crosshair on a political map. I wonder what event we'll see justified with pictures like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    substitute 'NATIONAL SECURITY' with 'DEEP STATE' and you have your answer.
    You do realize, I'm not asking a question ,
    and if I was asking , it would be rhetorical ,
    and the answer is no secret to anyone .

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    Quote Originally Posted by spudea View Post
    These FBI clowns are such a disgrace.
    If this Political motivated persecution is not enough to finally end the FBI.. then there is no hope of such..

    They have NO Credibility. and a Horrible record.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

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    It's all about Freedom

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    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    If this Political motivated persecution is not enough to finally end the FBI.. then there is no hope of such..

    They have NO Credibility. and a Horrible record.
    Trump wouldn't be the first person the F.B.I. has framed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Trump wouldn't be the first person the F.B.I. has framed.
    Exactly my Point.

    F. B. Intimidation
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom

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    ''Following President Trump’s firing of James B. Comey as F.B.I. director, the bureau grew increasingly concerned about whether the president....''
    ...
    might have enough evidence to appoint a special council to expose the
    abject abuse of power that the FBI wields, the pervasive corruption, and whether
    this will cause heads to roll in the upper FBI tiers.

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    I'm actually surprised this hasn't gotten more of a following in the conspiracy threads on the forum. Or if it has I have totally missed it.

    We just had new threads on JFK. Past discussions cover just about everything questionable over the past century... 911 has so many threads, odd stock market trades before 911, WTC building 7, the anthrax mailing, you name anything that could have a conspiracy with it and it will be discussed here. Some fascinating info is shared this way, not the typical tin foil hat wearing type. I learned about the USS Liberty from those discussions, like I said informative.

    So why do we just throw out Russian influence? I'm pretty sure more actual discussion on pizzagate has happened than if Trump actually had russian influence.

    Instead most comments about findings of collusion end up either defending Trump outright, blanket attacking of Trump, or attacking government incompetence so the issue doesn't matter. We should even drop the 'collusion' part to avoid the entire legal discussion.

    How do we have a discussion about Trump and possible Russian ties worthy of discussion without devolving into partisan politics? We all have access to many primary sources - twitter, interviews, public plea agreements from many close Trump supporters.

    Or is the problem that it's ongoing, the pieces keep moving, and determining the truth is going to end up based on what sources you read as those come from all sides and each have different "sources with relevant knowledge"?
    “…let us teach them that all who draw breath are of equal worth, and that those who seek to press heel upon the throat of liberty, will fall to the cry of FREEDOM!!!” – Spartacus, War of the Damned

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    How do we have a discussion about Trump and possible Russian ties worthy of discussion without devolving into partisan politics?
    I don't actually care. I think it's a talking point the left dreamed up.
    * Enforce Border Security – America should be guarding her own borders and enforcing her own laws instead of policing the world and implementing UN mandates.

    * No Amnesty - The Obama Administration’s endorsement of so-called “Comprehensive Immigration Reform,” granting amnesty to millions of illegal immigrants, will only encourage more law-breaking.

    * Abolish the Welfare State – Taxpayers cannot continue to pay the high costs to sustain this powerful incentive for illegal immigration. As Milton Friedman famously said, you can’t have open borders and a welfare state.

    * End Birthright Citizenship – As long as illegal immigrants know their children born here will be granted U.S. citizenship, we’ll never be able to control our immigration problem.




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    Quote Originally Posted by kpitcher View Post
    I'm actually surprised this hasn't gotten more of a following in the conspiracy threads on the forum. Or if it has I have totally missed it.

    We just had new threads on JFK. Past discussions cover just about everything questionable over the past century... 911 has so many threads, odd stock market trades before 911, WTC building 7, the anthrax mailing, you name anything that could have a conspiracy with it and it will be discussed here. Some fascinating info is shared this way, not the typical tin foil hat wearing type. I learned about the USS Liberty from those discussions, like I said informative.

    So why do we just throw out Russian influence? I'm pretty sure more actual discussion on pizzagate has happened than if Trump actually had russian influence.

    Instead most comments about findings of collusion end up either defending Trump outright, blanket attacking of Trump, or attacking government incompetence so the issue doesn't matter. We should even drop the 'collusion' part to avoid the entire legal discussion.

    How do we have a discussion about Trump and possible Russian ties worthy of discussion without devolving into partisan politics? We all have access to many primary sources - twitter, interviews, public plea agreements from many close Trump supporters.

    Or is the problem that it's ongoing, the pieces keep moving, and determining the truth is going to end up based on what sources you read as those come from all sides and each have different "sources with relevant knowledge"?
    ''Instead most comments about findings of collusion end up either defending Trump outright, ...or attacking government incompetence so the issue doesn't matter. We should even drop the 'collusion' part to avoid the entire legal discussion.''

    I'm admittedly in the defend Trump 'outright' camp
    regarding Russia Gate, do you have any evidence that
    Trump Colluded with Russia in any illegal or un constitutional manner,
    I'll be the first set aside my bent of innocent until proven guilty and
    straddle the scales of justice if there is compelling evidence to warrant it.
    Does the fact that Mueller is willing to investigate and indict anyone
    for anything under the sun that has ever met or been
    associated with Trump, right down to and including his
    dog, draw any red flags as to Mueller's stake in this game?
    On the other hand, Hillary and Comey's numerous admissions
    of espionage, Hillary's malfeasance regarding Benghazi, and possible
    complicity in those murders, the connection of Hillary's Foundation,
    the association with Mueller in the Russian-Iranian-Foundation deals.
    These issues are not on the front page of this forum daily ,
    should they be or is it better to cast suspicion on a President that
    is not guilty of any crime?





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    Not only do I not see evidence of collusion, I have no idea what that collusion might be other than keeping us out of WWIII. So far collusion has been: not getting more involved in Syria and starting to withdraw, holding talks with Putin, A Russian chick joined the NRA, Flynn and Don junior spoke to a Russian dude once, and WikiLeaks demonstrated that the DNC screwed Bernie out of the primaries. CNN, MSNBC, NYT, are the INFOWARS of the last two years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kpitcher View Post
    I'm actually surprised this hasn't gotten more of a following in the conspiracy threads on the forum. Or if it has I have totally missed it.

    We just had new threads on JFK. Past discussions cover just about everything questionable over the past century... 911 has so many threads, odd stock market trades before 911, WTC building 7, the anthrax mailing, you name anything that could have a conspiracy with it and it will be discussed here. Some fascinating info is shared this way, not the typical tin foil hat wearing type. I learned about the USS Liberty from those discussions, like I said informative.

    So why do we just throw out Russian influence? I'm pretty sure more actual discussion on pizzagate has happened than if Trump actually had russian influence.

    Instead most comments about findings of collusion end up either defending Trump outright, blanket attacking of Trump, or attacking government incompetence so the issue doesn't matter. We should even drop the 'collusion' part to avoid the entire legal discussion.

    How do we have a discussion about Trump and possible Russian ties worthy of discussion without devolving into partisan politics? We all have access to many primary sources - twitter, interviews, public plea agreements from many close Trump supporters.

    Or is the problem that it's ongoing, the pieces keep moving, and determining the truth is going to end up based on what sources you read as those come from all sides and each have different "sources with relevant knowledge"?
    Who cares if Trump had Russian influence?
    What matters is whether his policies are best for America, if making peace with Russia and retracting the empire is best for America then we should thank Russia for any influence they expended on Trump to achieve it.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    If this Political motivated persecution is not enough to finally end the FBI.. then there is no hope of such..
    They have NO Credibility. and a Horrible record.
    fwiw, I spoke to a few fbi agents and employees at a party recently, they all loved trump and gave the impression that the rank and file at FBI felt much the same way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    fwiw, I spoke to a few fbi agents and employees at a party recently, they all loved trump and gave the impression that the rank and file at FBI felt much the same way.
    Then what are they going to do about it?
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Then what are they going to do about it?
    Continue to show up at their jobs and hope to collect a paycheck until retirement.

  26. #23
    John McCain gave the fake dossier the democrats created to James Comey
    allegations it contained were raw, uncorroborated intelligence. That's why McCain says he handed it over to the FBI to investigate: to protect Trump from "groundless conspiracy theories," "Anyone who doesn't like it can go to hell,"



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