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    Construction Starts on New Border Wall



    Actually it is an upgrade of existing wall planned a decade ago- not new wall.

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b0c469d76cad7f

    Trump often says construction of his wall already has begun. In 2017, the president won $1.6 million for improved border protection projects. But that was primarily for shoring up or overhauling existing fencing, not for the border wall Trump promises. The spending measure specifically states that none of the money can be used to build any of Trump’s prototype walls.

    Nevertheless, DHS over the summer announced on Twitter: “Today marks Potus’ 500th day in office, and just as he promised, the border wall has begun construction.” The press release the DHS tweet linked to touted the “border-wall construction project.”

    The project DHS touted had been planned since 2009 and does not involve Trump’s wall. It aims to upgrade 14 miles of a 10-foot high metal barrier with an 18- to 30-foot bollard-style fence.

    There are some 650 miles of barriers on the U.S.-Mexico border, and have been since before Trump took office.

    A December DHS statement headlined “Walls Work” further declared: “Under this President, we are building a new wall for the first time in a decade that is 30-feet high to prevent illegal entry and drug smuggling.” DHS was widely criticized for the misleading statement, but didn’t attempt to clarify it.

    DHS also has been slammed for peddling suspect statistics. The Trump administration has said that nearly 4,000 people on the FBI terror watchlist have been stopped attempting to enter the country. But DHS Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen failed to point out the number included everyone around the world, with most stopped at airports.

    Just six immigrants stopped at the U.S. southern border were on the terror watchlist, NBC reported last week. Nielsen has refused to clarify her numbers, saying the information was classified.
    Meaning that of the 4,000 people stopped, 3,994 (99.85%) were using legal points of entry and NOT trying to sneak across the border.
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 01-11-2019 at 01:46 PM.


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    Troll thread.
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    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    Troll thread.
    How do you figure that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfluous Man View Post
    How do you figure that?

    Ask him why he posted it.
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    It's hilarious how much the official DHS statements sound like Trump's own tweets in the way they pat him on the back.

    Who did he hire to write those statements? Baghdad Bob?

  7. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    Ask him why he posted it.
    But you're the one who called it a troll thread. Shouldn't you have a reason for saying that?

    If you want to see trolling, as measured by the ruler of our actual site mission, check out all the threads by the pro-Trumpers around here. Compared to them Zippy is a libertarian stalwart.
    Last edited by Superfluous Man; 01-11-2019 at 01:59 PM.

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    Things are far worse than I thought! I have been there numerous times (well, twice for photo ops).



    But the people there feel safe! They are "quite safe".



    So how bad is the situation in McAllen Texas where Trump visited this week?

    https://www.henrycuellar.com/news-cl...tional-average

    STATISTICS SHOW CITIES ALONG BORDER HAVE LOWER CRIME RATE THAN NATIONAL AVERAGE

    WASHINGTON, D.C. - Rep. Henry Cuellar released Wednesday the latest statistics from the Federal Bureau of Investigation that show lower violent crime rates in cities along the Texas-Mexico border than in other major metropolitan areas across Texas and the U.S.

    The data released by the FBI shows information gathered for 2015.

    "The border is often painted in an unfair light," Cuellar said. "The people who characterize the border as a violent and crime-ridden place often have never visited, or lived here. The FBI's official crime statistics for yet another year demonstrate that the border is home to some of the safest cities in the United States. Violent crimes like murder and aggravated assault are much higher even in our nation’s capital than on the Texas border. These unfounded stereotypes about the border have the potential to hurt business, and we need to stop this misinformation about the border."

    The latest FBI crime statistics (2015) show:

    The murder rates in Detroit and Washington, D.C., were more than twice the murder rates in Laredo, McAllen, Brownsville and El Paso combined.

    The aggravated assault rate was lower in border cities compared to other Texas and U.S. cities. The statistics show Detroit's aggravated assault rate was almost 19 times the rate in McAllen, Texas. Washington, D.C., was more than 10 times the rate of McAllen.

    The murder rates in Houston, Dallas and San Antonio were more than twice the murder rate of Laredo, McAllen, Brownsville and El Paso, respectively.

    The robbery rates in border cities were less than half of the rates in Detroit and Washington, D.C., and significantly lower than Dallas, Houston, or San Antonio.

    The rape rate was significantly lower, often by half or more, in Brownsville and McAllen than in most major cities in Texas, and in major cities like Chicago, Washington and Detroit.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/media/the-9-...-in-america/4/

    The 9 safest cities in America

    7. McAllen, Texas

    The city is located in the Rio Grande Valley just north of Reynosa, Mexico. It has one of the lowest crime rates of any city in America, with 122 violent crimes per 100,000 residents. In fact, there were just two murders in all of McAllen in 2013.
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 01-11-2019 at 02:06 PM.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfluous Man View Post
    But you're the one who called it a troll thread. Shouldn't you have a reason for saying that?

    Shouldn't he have a reason for posting it?
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  11. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by Superfluous Man View Post
    But you're the one who called it a troll thread. Shouldn't you have a reason for saying that?

    If you want to see trolling, as measured by the ruler of our actual site mission, check out all the threads by the Trumpers around here.
    He is jealous and can only criticize. See my sig as to what he really thinks about me. I removed the one where he said his ambition here was to attack and belittle me.
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 01-11-2019 at 02:07 PM.


    Donald Trump: 'What you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening'

    "Truth isn't truth"- Rudy Giuliani

    "China has total respect for Donald Trump and for Donald Trump's very, very large brain," - Donald Trump.

    "Yeah, I have to say these guys(trolls) are pretty sharp. Sort of good to get a challenge and sharpen your thoughts." NorthCarolinaLiberty

    I am Zippy and I approve of this post. But you don't have to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    See my sig as to what he really thinks about me.

    That was more about PRB and some of the others on the payroll. You've actually slipped in recent years.
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    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
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  13. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    Shouldn't he have a reason for posting it?
    Publicizing what that article points out about how Trump is lying and this is actually ongoing previously authorized work unrelated to his promised wall is a pretty good reason to post it.

    Is there a reason people here should not like to have that pointed out?

    If nothing else, it gives us additional anti-Trump ammunition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfluous Man View Post
    Publicizing what that article points out about how Trump is lying and this is actually ongoing previously authorized work unrelated to his promised wall is a pretty good reason to post it.

    Is there a reason people here should not like to have that pointed out?

    If nothing else, it gives us additional anti-Trump ammunition.

    It doesn't answer the question why Zip posted it.
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  15. #13
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post


    Actually it is an upgrade of existing wall planned a decade ago- not new wall.

    01/11/2019 07:45 am ET
    DHS Backs Trump Lie That Border Wall Construction Has Already Started
    No, “tremendous amounts” of Trump’s promised wall have not already been built.
    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b0c469d76cad7f

    How often is that HuffPo and Coulter agree on something:

    Ann Coulter Slams Trump for Lying About Wall Already Being Built: Does He Think His Supporters Are Dumb?





    Related

    Negotiations start on new 'DACA for the wall' deal

  16. #14
    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    It doesn't answer the question why Zip posted it.
    It shows that it wasn't trolling.

    Which brings up the question of the role you're playing in this very thread.

    Who's paying you to do this?

  17. #15
    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    Does He Think His Supporters Are Dumb?
    That's a rhetorical question obviously.

  18. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by Superfluous Man View Post
    It shows that it wasn't trolling.

    Which brings up the question of the role you're playing in this very thread.

    Who's paying you to do this?

    The question is why he posted it. Are you going to ask him? Are you not interested?
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
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    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
    Quote Originally Posted by Dforkus View Post
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  20. #17
    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    The question is why he posted it. Are you going to ask him? Are you not interested?
    No. Not really. You didn't even ask that question until after you had already called it a troll thread, for no apparent reason, and that was your way of deflecting the question away from yourself.

    It's a good 5-star thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post


    Actually it is an upgrade of existing wall planned a decade ago- not new wall.

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b0c469d76cad7f



    Meaning that of the 4,000 people stopped, 3,994 (99.85%) were using legal points of entry and NOT trying to sneak across the border.
    +rep

  22. #19
    Quote Originally Posted by Superfluous Man View Post
    No. Not really.

    So you're interested in why I post, but not interested in why Zip posts?
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
    Quote Originally Posted by Dforkus View Post
    Zippy's posts are a great contribution.




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  23. #20
    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    So you're interested in why I post, but not interested in why Zip posts?
    Zip's post had an obvious reason. This is just the kind of thread that belongs here. It's what this website is here for. Your reply to it made no sense. You are literally trolling just to call someone else a troll for them not trolling.

  24. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by Superfluous Man View Post
    Zip's post had an obvious reason.

    What is it?
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
    Quote Originally Posted by Dforkus View Post
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  25. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by Superfluous Man View Post
    Zip's post had an obvious reason. This is just the kind of thread that belongs here. It's what this website is here for. Your reply to it made no sense. You are literally trolling just to call someone else a troll for them not trolling.
    Trolling is all he is capable of. And everybody knows it.


    Donald Trump: 'What you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening'

    "Truth isn't truth"- Rudy Giuliani

    "China has total respect for Donald Trump and for Donald Trump's very, very large brain," - Donald Trump.

    "Yeah, I have to say these guys(trolls) are pretty sharp. Sort of good to get a challenge and sharpen your thoughts." NorthCarolinaLiberty

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    What is it?
    Post #11.

  27. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by Superfluous Man View Post
    Post #11.

    It doesn't answer the question why Zip posted it.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
    Quote Originally Posted by Dforkus View Post
    Zippy's posts are a great contribution.




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  29. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Trolling is all he is capable of. And everybody knows it.
    I ask you why you post these threads. Is that not a fair question?
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
    Quote Originally Posted by Dforkus View Post
    Zippy's posts are a great contribution.




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  30. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    I removed the one where he said his ambition here was to attack and belittle me.

    You removed something that wasn't there?

    Perhaps you are confusing me your your equally neg repped co-worker, PRB. At least that progressive had the nerve to say why he is on RPF. He said "....I am here to belittle people."

    But you are just a bum. You and PRB both got negged to oblivion, but at least he didn't lie. He did not lie about quotes that did not exist. He did not put fake "supporting member" claims in his profile.

    He was a much better employee than you'll ever be. LOL!
    Last edited by NorthCarolinaLiberty; 01-11-2019 at 02:58 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
    Quote Originally Posted by Dforkus View Post
    Zippy's posts are a great contribution.




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  31. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    It doesn't answer the question why Zip posted it.
    ANSWER: Because it shows, again, how much of a ego-centric brat Trump is and that you cannot trust a word out of his mouth.
    There is no spoon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    ANSWER: Because it shows, again, how much of a ego-centric brat Trump is and that you cannot trust a word out of his mouth.

    That's your reaction to the thread. It doesn't explain why Zip posted it.

    But seriously, PRB was much better at his craft. I would seriously give Zip a pay cut.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
    Quote Originally Posted by Dforkus View Post
    Zippy's posts are a great contribution.




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