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    Government shutdown impacting breweries




    The reach of the government shutdown is extending into the beer industry, and it could mean missing out on new craft brews.

    The Alcohol and Tobacco Tax and Trade Bureau issues permits and labels for businesses to sell newly crafted beers.

    With the government shutdown, breweries can’t get new products approved. That means no new beers.

    Joe Osberger runs the Frankenmuth Brewery and has been in the beer business for more than a decade.

    He said the shutdown could potentially harm new breweries who are just trying to get their business off the ground.

    “It can be. It’s very detrimental to the new breweries because Michigan is a thriving craft brewery state. So anybody new that is in the process, they have no place to turn. They cannot open their doors,” Osberger said.

    Osberger said longer running microbreweries like his won’t be affected, thanks to the large number of beers already made and labeled before the shutdown.

    He said even though the shutdown may not be affecting their sale of beer, it’s still affecting the brewery in other ways.

    “We don’t have a time process for getting a new beer out,” Osberger said.

    New beers are typically made six months in advance. Osberger said they had planned to have a June release for a new beer but it has been pushed back because of the shutdown.

    That means the brewery will not be able to craft new beers for now.

    “We won’t even make it if we can’t put a label on it or sell it to the market,” Osberger said.

    Breweries planning to open could be affected as well since they must first be licensed federally.
    https://www.wnem.com/news/government...fe23a2560.html
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    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

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    If I was a beer drinker, I'd be outraged by this.
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    If I was a beer drinker, I'd be outraged by this.
    It is a sad state of affairs that the ATF is over beer but without that agency america has a better shot at greatness
    Do something Danke

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    Thanks for the heads up, :scurruyingofftowalmartintheweehours:

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    Home brewing and barter may increase slightly. If it goes on long enough maybe ATF will just cease to be? (dream on)
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    The man did not think clearly. It was almost as if he had brain cancer of something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    If I was a beer drinker, I'd be outraged by this.
    You should be anyway.

    I'm not a beer drinker, and the fact that breweries can't just sell beer to people who want to buy it without getting the federal government's permission for every brew is outrageous.

    I'm sure they put this under the umbrella of interstate commerce, and I'm sure they do that even if the brewery and its customers are all in the same state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    Home brewing and barter may increase slightly. If it goes on long enough maybe ATF will just cease to be? (dream on)
    Much more likely is that they will ban home brewing and barter.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfluous Man View Post
    Much more likely is that they will ban home brewing and barter.
    I think they tried that once already, it didn't turn out very well.
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    The man did not think clearly. It was almost as if he had brain cancer of something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    I think they tried that once already, it didn't turn out very well.
    Especially for the home brewers.

    Nothing the government does ever does turn out well. But that rarely stops it.

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    Just bought a 18 pack of PBR this morning. Don't care.

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    You can't get permission, because "shutdown" - but they'll come after you if you do it anyway, because "not shutdown",

    They ought to call this "Schrödinger's shutdown" ...

    With the government shutdown, breweries can’t get new products approved. That means no new beers.
    "The revolution has been cancelled due to a lack of permits from the proper authorities ..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    You can't get permission, because "shutdown" - but they'll come after you if you do it anyway, because "not shutdown",

    They ought to call this "Schrödinger's shutdown" ...



    "The revolution has been cancelled due to a lack of permits from the proper authorities ..."
    Because of the shutdown.
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    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
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    Oyarde will sell you new beers .
    Do something Danke

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    Atlas Brew Works says the administration is violating its right to free speech, since the shutdown is preventing the brewery from getting approval for its seasonal apricot-infused IPA called “The Precious One.” By not being permitted to sell the beer to out-of-state customers, the brewer claims, it’s not being allowed to speak to them.

    More at: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/craft...173240697.html
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