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  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by Stratovarious View Post
    Serenzipity, do you actually ever say anything more than 3 word sentences,...

    He's slick. The majority of his posts are contrary. He makes sure he posts early and often in threads. He stirs up division here, just like the Open Society Foundation likes it.

    Overall, he doesn't care. It's a paycheck. After he has exhausted and reamed everyone, he cashes his check and goes on to the next big thread.

    See my very bottom sig line for more.
    Last edited by NorthCarolinaLiberty; 01-11-2019 at 06:26 PM.
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    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
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  3. #62
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Dude, you need to shut the $#@! up and listen for a change instead of yappity yapping..

    Trump said hundreds of times on the campaign trail that Mexico was going to pay for the wall.

    He said dozens of times on the campaign trail that Mexico would pay for the wall "some how", through trade deals or something.

    Those are NOT $#@!ing contradictory statements. Every Trump supporter understands this.. Only a completely insane person with TDS thinks those are contradictory statements.
    Jeeeeeezus, dude...

    What a fcking mess you've become...

  4. #63
    Quote Originally Posted by Schifference View Post
    Clinton lied same for Trump. Not a very good defense for Trump f u asked me. He can just accept that he made a mistake a move on. He thought he could get Mexico to pay for it during the campaign but now that he is president, he now sees that it would be very difficult to achieve. He could easily and quietly admit a small defeat and move on but his huge ego would not let him do it.

    When Obama was caught saying people can keep their doctors, he did not deny saying it, he made an excuse why those people were better off with the new doctors or how it was a casualty of the new law and that was the end of it. Trump should learn how to be a better bullshitter like Obama if he wants to a 2nd term.
    You can maintain power over people, as long as you give them something. Rob a man of everything, and that man will no longer be in your power. Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

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    Trust principles; not people.
    My Che avatar is my unique way of giving a big middle finger to the, the neocons, the globalists, imperialists and most importantly to the left and right political establishment who hate his guts till this day. My admiration for him ends where his anti imperialist pro communism ideology starts.

  5. #64
    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    He's slick. The majority of his posts are contrary. He makes sure he posts early and often in threads. He stirs up division here, just like the Open Society Foundation likes it.

    Overall, he doesn't care. It's a paycheck. After he has exhausted and reamed everyone, he cashes his check and goes on to the next big thread.
    Is here seriously on a Soros or ..... payroll, or just safe to assume that, I don't know him, seems like we got along
    well when I was here back in 15' not positive though......and not that it makes a diff, but if he is on a
    payroll for trolling here I'm done with responding to him.



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  7. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by Stratovarious View Post
    Is here seriously on a Soros or ..... payroll, or just safe to assume that, I don't know him, seems like we got along
    well when I was here back in 15' not positive though......and not that it makes a diff, but if he is on a
    payroll for trolling here I'm done with responding to him.
    He is afraid of me for some reason. Check his post history- he mostly attacks people and not based on any content of what they said. He has nothing constructive to contribute. He is best ignored.
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 01-11-2019 at 06:32 PM.


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  8. #66
    Quote Originally Posted by Stratovarious View Post
    Is here seriously on a Soros or ..... payroll, or just safe to assume that, I don't know him, seems like we got along
    well when I was here back in 15' not positive though......and not that it makes a diff, but if he is on a
    payroll for trolling here I'm done with responding to him.

    Yeah, you're wasting your time. He sucks people into these imbecilic, coffee klatching, inconsequential discussions. Everyone gets exhausted. I'm sure he expends a lot of energy, but at least he gets a check.

    I don't say these things unless I am 100% sure about someone. There is no question about it.

    He also hates it when the spotlight is on him. Just like how roaches scatter when you turn the lights on.


    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
    Quote Originally Posted by Dforkus View Post
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  9. #67
    Quote Originally Posted by Stratovarious View Post
    Mommy :tugsonskirt: make them stop, Trumpty promised blah blah blah, well he
    also promised (de facto) that Hillary was going jail, some things just don't
    work out, where were you when Obama fkd up Health Care and your rights
    those things matter, really , but now, where the money comes from
    is your obsession? Is this going to come right out of your pocket, are
    going to see this in your tax bill ever, probably not, there's a lot of budget
    items that will never come out of your pocket, MEXICO will pay,not with a check,
    so what , he never even said they would pay with a cash deal of any kind.
    ,,,,,,,,,but
    mommy Trumps a bad boy , he said........whiner ..........
    Uh, where the hell were you if we're going to be asking?
    "The Patriarch"

    willie with tan lines: enjoy the shots and the woman
    Quote Originally Posted by Schifference View Post
    The man did not think clearly. It was almost as if he had brain cancer of something.

  10. #68
    Quote Originally Posted by A Son of Liberty View Post
    Jeeeeeezus, dude...

    What a fcking mess you've become...
    If you want to disagree with me on this point, you are completely full of $#@! and/or misinformed. This has been argued over and over on here for three $#@!ing years. It's crystal $#@!ing clear.

    The media has ALWAYS portrayed it as Trump said Mexico would voluntarily send a check to the US for the wall. He NEVER said that. That was fake news and always has been. You fell for it, just like you fall for all the fake news about Trump from the deep state media..

    Trump said Mexico would pay for it - like Danke said, he never promised they would PRE-pay for it.. he never promised how they would pay for it.. just that they would pay for it. Every Trump supporter understood this perfectly well. No Trump supporter was disappointing when Trump listed various ways in which Mexico might end up paying for the wall.

    It's really just a bunch of dip$#@! trolls and fake news media who is trying to spin this into something it isn't. Don't be them. Be better than that.
    Last edited by dannno; 01-11-2019 at 06:35 PM.
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  11. #69
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    ... he mostly attacks people and not based on any content of what they said.

    LOL. Ya see, Strat? I told ya Zip is slick. The difference these days is that exposing him has resulted in him lying about people.


    He has nothing constructive to contribute.
    LOL. Mister Paycheck speaks!
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
    Quote Originally Posted by Dforkus View Post
    Zippy's posts are a great contribution.




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  12. #70
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    If you want to disagree with me on this point, you are completely full of $#@! and/or misinformed. This has been argued over and over on here for three $#@!ing years. It's crystal $#@!ing clear.

    The media has ALWAYS portrayed it as Trump said Mexico would voluntarily send a check to the US for the wall. He NEVER said that. That was fake news and always has been. You fell for it, just like you fall for all the fake news about Trump from the deep state media..

    Trump said Mexico would pay for it - like Danke said, he never promised they would PRE-pay for it.. he never promised how they would pay for it.. just that they would pay for it. Every Trump supporter understood this perfectly well. No Trump supporter was disappointing when Trump listed various ways in which Mexico might end up paying for the wall.

    It's really just a bunch of dip$#@! trolls and fake news media who is trying to spin this into something it isn't.
    Read the image posted earlier. He said Mexico could send him a one- time payment of $5 to $10 billion (that was on his own website- not produced by "fake news" media).


    (The page has since been removed) https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/pay-for-the-wall

    More from the memo: https://www.politico.com/story/2019/...r-wall-1095019

    “It's an easy decision for Mexico: make a one-time payment of $5-10 billion to ensure that $24 billion continues to flow into their country year after year,” the memo says, referring to “remittances from Mexican nationals working in the United States.”

    The memo says that Trump would propose on his first day in office a rule aimed at barring undocumented immigrants in the U.S. from wiring money outside the country, which Mexico would “immediately protest” on Day 2.
    (he never passed that rule)

    “On day 3 tell Mexico that if the Mexican government will contribute the funds needed to the United States to pay for the wall, the Trump Administration will not promulgate the final rule, and the regulation will not go into effect,” the memo states.

    At that point, the memo also suggests threatening “trade tariffs, or enforcement of existing trade rules” and canceling visas or increasing visa fees to compel Mexico to pay.
    Trump changes his stories all the time and I understand it can sometimes be hard to keep up on his ever-changing positions on things.
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 01-11-2019 at 06:42 PM.


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  13. #71
    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    Clinton lied same for Trump. Not a very good defense for Trump f u asked me. He can just accept that he made a mistake a move on. He thought he could get Mexico to pay for it during the campaign but now that he is president, he now sees that it would be very difficult to achieve. He could easily and quietly admit a small defeat and move on but his huge ego would not let him do it.

    When Obama was caught saying people can keep their doctors, he did not deny saying it, he made an excuse why those people were better off with the new doctors or how it was a casualty of the new law and that was the end of it. Trump should learn how to be a better bullshitter like Obama if he wants to a 2nd term.
    More deep state media fake news nonsense..

    Trump never said Mexico would voluntarily pay for the wall, that is what the media claimed Trump said, but that was a lie and anybody with half a brain paying attention always knew that... Trump also never said they would pre-pay for it. He said they would pay for it. Like a $#@!ing gangster. One way or another, they will pay. Some day, at some point, they will pay.

    You are just too caught up in the fake news media and thought that he actually meant Mexico would voluntarily cut us a check.. He never said that is how they would pay for it. Maybe they will, but there are plenty of other ways.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc


    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

  14. #72
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Read the image posted earlier. He said Mexico could send him a one- time payment of $5 to $10 billion (that was on his own website- not produced by "fake news" media).


    (The page has since been removed) https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/pay-for-the-wall
    Why can't you post like an intelligent person?

    That image LITERALLY says that is ONE WAY they could compel Mexico to pay for it, and that there are several ways they can compel Mexico to pay for it.

    That is precisely what I'm saying, and it contradicts everything you have said in this $#@!ing thread.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc


    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."



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  16. #73
    Quote Originally Posted by Stratovarious View Post
    Is here seriously on a Soros or ..... payroll, or just safe to assume that, I don't know him, seems like we got along
    well when I was here back in 15' not positive though......and not that it makes a diff, but if he is on a
    payroll for trolling here I'm done with responding to him.
    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    Yeah, you're wasting your time. He sucks people into these imbecilic, coffee klatching, inconsequential discussions. Everyone gets exhausted. I'm sure he expends a lot of energy, but at least he gets a check.

    I don't say these things unless I am 100% sure about someone. There is no question about it.

    He also hates it when the spotlight is on him. Just like how roaches scatter when you turn the lights on.


    See what I mean about his "informative" posts?
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 01-11-2019 at 06:51 PM.


    Donald Trump: 'What you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening'

    "Truth isn't truth"- Rudy Giuliani

    "China has total respect for Donald Trump and for Donald Trump's very, very large brain," - Donald Trump.

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  17. #74
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Why can't you post like an intelligent person?

    That image LITERALLY says that is ONE WAY they could compel Mexico to pay for it, and that there are several ways they can compel Mexico to pay for it.

    That is precisely what I'm saying, and it contradicts everything you have said in this $#@!ing thread.
    At least you recognize that he did say it. So it is not "fake news"


    Donald Trump: 'What you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening'

    "Truth isn't truth"- Rudy Giuliani

    "China has total respect for Donald Trump and for Donald Trump's very, very large brain," - Donald Trump.

    "Yeah, I have to say these guys(trolls) are pretty sharp. Sort of good to get a challenge and sharpen your thoughts." NorthCarolinaLiberty

    I am Zippy and I approve of this post. But you don't have to.

  18. #75
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    Uh, where the hell were you if we're going to be asking?
    Hell yea, ask, but what do you mean when/where?

  19. #76
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    At least you recognize that he did say it. So it is not "fake news"
    serenzippity , Let me ask you this one last question;
    Who did you vote for and why, what policies attracted you to them?

  20. #77
    Quote Originally Posted by Stratovarious View Post
    serenzippity , Let me ask you this one last question;
    Who did you vote for and why, what policies attracted you to them?
    I voted Gary Johnson in the last presidential election. Trump and Clinton were both terrible candidates (as we are seeing).


    Donald Trump: 'What you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening'

    "Truth isn't truth"- Rudy Giuliani

    "China has total respect for Donald Trump and for Donald Trump's very, very large brain," - Donald Trump.

    "Yeah, I have to say these guys(trolls) are pretty sharp. Sort of good to get a challenge and sharpen your thoughts." NorthCarolinaLiberty

    I am Zippy and I approve of this post. But you don't have to.

  21. #78
    Quote Originally Posted by Stratovarious View Post
    Hell yea, ask, but what do you mean when/where?
    Well, read the post I was responding to.
    "The Patriarch"

    willie with tan lines: enjoy the shots and the woman
    Quote Originally Posted by Schifference View Post
    The man did not think clearly. It was almost as if he had brain cancer of something.

  22. #79
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    I voted Gary Johnson in the last presidential election. Trump and Clinton were both terrible candidates (as we are seeing).
    What of Gary's policies most attracted you to his platform?

  23. #80
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    Well, read the post I was responding to.
    I'm not smart enough for cat n' mouse and interpretation, just ask if you would be so kind.



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  25. #81
    Quote Originally Posted by Stratovarious View Post
    I'm not smart enough for cat n' mouse and interpretation, just ask if you would be so kind.
    Dude, if you can't read your own post I don't know what to tell you.
    "The Patriarch"

    willie with tan lines: enjoy the shots and the woman
    Quote Originally Posted by Schifference View Post
    The man did not think clearly. It was almost as if he had brain cancer of something.

  26. #82
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    Dude, if you can't read your own post I don't know what to tell you.
    fRIEND, don't get cryptic and tedious on me , when you have a question , don't be slik
    just ask the question clearly.
    Yea I went back ya' cuck, and prolly get' your little game question , Obama and his mandated health
    care coverage scheme; I was fkg livid, that racist prick should go make Africa great again, he
    sure as hell hates America , our culture and our constitution.

  27. #83
    Quote Originally Posted by Stratovarious View Post
    fRIEND, don't get cryptic and tedious on me , when you have a question , don't be slik
    just ask the question clearly.
    Yea I went back ya' cuck, and prolly get' your little game question , Obama and his mandated health
    care coverage scheme; I was fkg livid, that racist prick should go make Africa great again, he
    sure as hell hates America , our culture and our constitution.
    Go $#@! yourself, if you want to talk trash to me do it to my face.
    "The Patriarch"

    willie with tan lines: enjoy the shots and the woman
    Quote Originally Posted by Schifference View Post
    The man did not think clearly. It was almost as if he had brain cancer of something.

  28. #84
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Why can't you post like an intelligent person?

    That image LITERALLY says that is ONE WAY they could compel Mexico to pay for it, and that there are several ways they can compel Mexico to pay for it.

    That is precisely what I'm saying, and it contradicts everything you have said in this $#@!ing thread.
    Zip undermines himself a lot.
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  29. #85
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    Go $#@! yourself, if you want to talk trash to me do it to my face.
    Get off my lawn youngster..........you started with your slick little cryptic bsht, don't be cool dude
    be succinct.



  30. #86
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    Go $#@! yourself, if you want to talk trash to me do it to my face.
    You're not after content , your after personalities , ok slick.

  31. #87
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...uld-write-che/

    No, NAFTA/ USMCA will pay for it.
    No, taking money from people sending money to family in Mexico will pay for it.
    No, we have the money and are already building the wall.
    No, the Shutdown Money will pay for it. (whatever that means).
    No, Congress needs to give me my money right now! (even if all these other people are supposedly going to pay for it instead)

    Zip, you are the rest of the useful idiots of the left can make all the troll threads and make all the "but muh Mexico" bits all you want....WE, DO NOT, CARE. The wall wis going to pay for itself, never mind taxing trade/money sent overseas, the fact that you are blind to the reality of race, culture, and their impact on voting trends just proves you do not care about reality or Liberty and that which is needed to protect their continuation.

  32. #88
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    I voted Gary Johnson in the last presidential election. Trump and Clinton were both terrible candidates (as we are seeing).

    wow, Mr Open Borders votes for an open border nut....Shocking.



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  34. #89
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    See what I mean about his "informative" posts?
    Yes, I informed Stratovarious about your game playing because he was unaware of your role here. I even sent him a PM. He then decided not to interact with you based on that. Is that a problem?
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
    Quote Originally Posted by Dforkus View Post
    Zippy's posts are a great contribution.




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  35. #90
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    I voted Gary Johnson in the last presidential election. Trump and Clinton were both terrible candidates (as we are seeing).
    But you also voted Obama 2x, Dianne Feinstein, and Barbara Boxer. I am assuming you voted for Kerry and Gore. Am I right?
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
    Quote Originally Posted by Dforkus View Post
    Zippy's posts are a great contribution.




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