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    APA says Traditional Masculinity Is Harmful to Boys, Men

    This morning I saw that the fine thinkers at the APA have declared Traditional Masculinity' Is Harmful in their expert opinion.

    The American Psychological Association is linking 'masculinity ideology' to aggression, homophobia and misogyny.
    https://www.usnews.com/news/national...sociation-says

    Psychologists Declare Traditional Masculinity ‘Harmful’
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...inity-harmful/

    The American Psychological Association is the largest scientific and professional organization of psychologists in the United States, with around 117,500 members including scientists, educators, clinicians, consultants, and students.

    I am sure that these rational professionals who have advanced degrees if the field of medicine couldn't be wrong. Anyone that disagrees with them would clearly be a crackpot... I'm looking at you @donnay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleaner44 View Post
    This morning I saw that the fine thinkers at the APA have declared Traditional Masculinity' Is Harmful in their expert opinion.

    The American Psychological Association is linking 'masculinity ideology' to aggression, homophobia and misogyny.
    https://www.usnews.com/news/national...sociation-says

    Psychologists Declare Traditional Masculinity ‘Harmful’
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...inity-harmful/

    The American Psychological Association is the largest scientific and professional organization of psychologists in the United States, with around 117,500 members including scientists, educators, clinicians, consultants, and students.

    I am sure that these rational professionals who have advanced degrees if the field of medicine couldn't be wrong. Anyone that disagrees with them would clearly be a crackpot... I'm looking at you @donnay.
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    maybe we should catrate them at birth? i mean, we already gave em a warrning shot when we cut off the end of thier johnson ( just the tip).

    its the only way to be sure

    AND

    we can build humans out of 3 female dna so they are obsolete...

    why I should worship the state (who apparently is the only party that can possess guns without question).
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    It's starting to look like the patients are running the asylum. This sort of medical tyranny should not be tolerated!

    These mental cases think they know better than all of us--because many of them have more degrees than a thermometer.
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    Individuality and Self Definition are whats under attack here. Individuality is a THREAT to Crowd Control, which is their most effective Psychological Weapon against the people.

    What they are really attacking is SELF CONFIDENCE. Males that express Healthy Masculinity have that SELF CONFIDENCE, which, again, is part of Individuality. Females do the same thing with Healthy Femininity. They are trying to promote the least healthy, which means MOST SICK versions of being human, which is nothing more than to be a gender confused disoriented bi polar narcissist that needs a Nanny State / Big Brother to sit on their shoulders and spoonfeed them reinforcing ideas such as "you are a good person if you obey the government".

    BELIEF, MONEY, VIOLENCE

    What they are doing is playing right back into that same old paradigm over and over again. This tactic undermines Self Belief, which allows them to manipulate ideas held by most people. Those that do not comply will be deprived of opportunities to earn money, pay higher prices that the obedient will be given discounts for, and should their resistance continue unabated, Violence and Imprisonment will be used to silence the dissenters.

    The American Psychological Institute ITSELF is harmful, not only to Boys, Men, but ALL PEOPLE.
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    APA says Traditional Masculinity Is Harmful to Boys
    And single moms dressing their 11 year old boy up like a trans-queeer fagggot and making the rounds at fagggot bars for old fagggot men to throw money at him while he prances around on stage dressed as a woman is "brave", "enlightened", "progressive" and to be celebrated.



    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...ing-quot-story

    This is the coming of age of the first full generation to raised by a plurality of single mothers and female run "institutions".

    And we wonder why young men are killing themselves and overdosing in record numbers.
    Last edited by Anti Federalist; 01-10-2019 at 06:32 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianTV View Post
    Individuality and Self Definition are whats under attack here. Individuality is a THREAT to Crowd Control, which is their most effective Psychological Weapon against the people.

    What they are really attacking is SELF CONFIDENCE. Males that express Healthy Masculinity have that SELF CONFIDENCE, which, again, is part of Individuality. Females do the same thing with Healthy Femininity. They are trying to promote the least healthy, which means MOST SICK versions of being human, which is nothing more than to be a gender confused disoriented bi polar narcissist that needs a Nanny State / Big Brother to sit on their shoulders and spoonfeed them reinforcing ideas such as "you are a good person if you obey the government".

    BELIEF, MONEY, VIOLENCE

    What they are doing is playing right back into that same old paradigm over and over again. This tactic undermines Self Belief, which allows them to manipulate ideas held by most people. Those that do not comply will be deprived of opportunities to earn money, pay higher prices that the obedient will be given discounts for, and should their resistance continue unabated, Violence and Imprisonment will be used to silence the dissenters.

    The American Psychological Institute ITSELF is harmful, not only to Boys, Men, but ALL PEOPLE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You must spread some reputation around...........
    Lets see if I can earn another one then!

    This is a flat out ATTACK on MALES. Why? Simple, who benefits? MEN are the ones that fight and die in Wars, and they WILL be the ones that fight the Elite. The do NOT want REAL MEN, and will do everything in their power to keep MALES from becoming MEN. Theres a big difference between Males and MEN.

    Destroying Men is the elimination of the Protectors of Freedom.
    1776 > 1984

    The FAILURE of the United States Government to operate and maintain an
    Honest Money System , which frees the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators, is the single largest contributing factor to the World's current Economic Crisis.

    The Elimination of Privacy is the Architecture of Genocide

    Belief, Money, and Violence are the three ways all people are controlled

    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Our central bank is not privately owned.



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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianTV View Post
    Lets see if I can earn another one then!

    This is a flat out ATTACK on MALES. Why? Simple, who benefits? MEN are the ones that fight and die in Wars, and they WILL be the ones that fight the Elite. The do NOT want REAL MEN, and will do everything in their power to keep MALES from becoming MEN. Theres a big difference between Males and MEN.

    Destroying Men is the elimination of the Protectors of Freedom.
    Sadly I haven't recharged yet.

    You must spread some reputation around...........
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Sadly I haven't recharged yet.

    You must spread some reputation around...........
    covered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    And single moms dressing their 11 year old boy up like a trans-queeer fagggot and making the rounds at fagggot bars for old fagggot men to throw money at him while he prances around on stage dressed as a woman is "brave", "enlightened", "progressive" and to be celebrated.



    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...ing-quot-story

    This is the coming of age of the first full generation to raised by a plurality of single mothers and female run "institutions".

    And we wonder why young men are killing themselves and overdosing in record numbers.
    Isn't it strange that women want to raise boys to be girls, and yet this is what they want to date:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleaner44 View Post
    Isn't it strange that women want to raise boys to be girls, and yet this is what they want to date:

    That is because woemen are insane.

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    APA says Traditional Masculinity Is Harmful to Boys, Men
    My grandfather or his brothers would immediately punch someone who said this. These APA fools have never seen “masculinity”.
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    There is a reason for the desire for men to be the strong silent type. A five year old boy throwing a temper tantrum might be cute at best, annoying at worst. However that little boy could grow into a six foot tall, two hundred pound man. Where a 5'2" woman can "let her emotions out," a big man can't. That is why most inmates at prison come from single mother homes.

    Also when a son disobeys a parent, looks the parent in the eye and calls them a name, there should be a swift reprisal. I disliked this, but if a parent let's kids get away with this at home they are setting his kid up to get tazed, beat up or shot by the police.

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    Psychology’s War on Men

    https://www.takimag.com/article/psychologys-war-on-men/

    by Christopher DeGroot

    January 11, 2019

    It’s often been pointed out that Jordan Peterson’s huge following is mostly male. And there are good reasons for this sex difference. Peterson’s themes of tragedy, personal responsibility, and the need to find your own meaning are distinctly masculine in character. Moreover, given the ideological hostility to men today, it makes sense that so many of them would turn to Peterson for guidance. Men are confused, lost, in despair. Peterson takes their questions seriously, and though I have some profound disagreements with him, I must concede that he has worthwhile answers to offer.

    Meanwhile, Peterson’s own field, psychology, has now declared war on traditional masculinity. Published this week, the American Psychological Association’s Guidelines for Psychological Practice for Boys and Men is a remarkable and frightening document. Throughout, value judgments are expressed under the guise of “science.” Social constructivism is assumed to be true, the implication being that “gender roles” don’t represent anything deeper, such as biology or an enduring human nature. Thus, if most nurses are women, and if most engineers are men, the only explanation is the patriarchy, that insidious, mysterious, inescapable evil.

    One is struck by the facile, trendy cant that the authors take for granted. Three sentences in, we read this assertion: “Boys and men, as a group, tend to hold privilege and power based on gender.” Based on gender! There is no recognition here of male accomplishment—that falls into the category of “privilege and power,” words which, like “patriarchy,” we encounter with mind-numbing frequency. One might think that academics would finally get tired of sounding like one another, but evidently their dullness is surpassed only by their bad taste.

    At the highest level of human affairs, whether its arts and letters or high technology, one finds that most of the ablest people are men, and it seems a disproportionate number of them are white, Jewish, or Asian. There are two main reasons for this. The first is the greater male variability in intelligence. Owing to it, most geniuses are men, as are most dunces. The second reason is that, on average, men are higher in motivation than women. This doesn’t mean, of course, that there are no female workaholics—there are many—but the vast majority of such persons are male.

    Now, because of human nature’s difficult need for esteem—whose common corollary is resentment—mankind is by no means willing to accept that the dominance of one group may be largely the result of fitness and merit. Rather, people who call themselves scholars would have us believe that, simply by virtue of being male, one has “privilege and power.” Ah, if only it were so, think we writers of Grub Street!

    The guidelines note that

    boys and men…demonstrate disproportionate rates of receiving harsh discipline (e.g., suspension and expulsion), academic challenges (e.g., dropping out of high school, particularly among African American and Latino boys), mental health issues (e.g., completed suicide), physical health problems (e.g., cardiovascular problems), public health concerns (e.g., violence, substance abuse, incarceration, and early mortality), and a wide variety of other quality-of-life issues.

    What’s causing all these negative sex differences? According to the experts,

    a particular constellation of [masculine] standards that have held sway over large segments of the [male] population, including: anti-femininity, achievement, eschewal of the appearance of weakness, and adventure, risk, and violence.

    Let’s grant for argument’s sake that there’s some truth here, that men have suffered a lot because of these “[masculine] standards.” The problem is that the authors have not asked themselves whether such suffering, to at least some extent, is not necessary for the sake of culture and civilization. Who can defend the state besides men who eschew “the appearance of weakness,” but embrace “adventure, risk, and violence”?

    On average, men are higher in aggression than women, and if you take the ten most aggressive people out of a group of 100, they’ll probably all be male. This sex difference has many negative effects. It is why most prisoners and most suicides are men, for instance. And yet, there cannot be an advanced civilization and flourishing culture without male aggression and the will to fierce competition and dominance. “If not for the evil impulse,” said the rabbis of the Talmud, “no one would build a house, marry, have children, nor engage in trade.” William Blake is equally apt: “Without contraries is no progression.”

    Shunning vulnerability, suppressing feeling, scorning the weak—these are the burdens men have borne to be the builders and producers, the innovators, providers, and protectors that they are. Nor are the sexes interchangeable here. The notion of an all-female military is ludicrous, while an all-male military is ideal. All vast systems of rational social organization have come from men; there is not a single exception in history. Certainly women have made contributions to human genius, but the original thing itself, whether it’s government, law, science, or whatever, has been initiated by men.

    Said Clifford Geertz,

    The Western conception of the person as a bounded, unique, more or less integrated motivational and cognitive universe, a dynamic center of awareness, emotion, judgment, and action organized into a distinctive whole and set contrastively both against other such wholes and against its social and natural background, is, however incorrigible it may seem to us, a rather peculiar idea within the context of the world’s cultures.

    Here is the narrow perspective of the people who wrote the APA guidelines, that “rather peculiar idea.” As traditional customs and ways of life have waned, such persons have emerged as a new, managerial overclass. From God’s death come the expert meddlers. Always their concern is the individual, never the fate of the culture as a whole. Indeed, of that they have no conception. So they can easily write passages like the following:

    For some men, this dominant ideology of masculinity has inherent conflicts. For instance, dominant masculinity was historically predicated on the exclusion of men who were not White, heterosexual, cisgender, able-bodied, and privileged. Moreover, the ideal, dominant masculinity is generally unattainable for most men. Men who depart from this narrow masculine conception by any dimension of diversity (e.g., race, sexual orientation, gender identity, and gender expression) may find themselves negotiating between adopting dominant ideals that exclude them or being stereotyped or marginalized.

    If we detach from the individualism that most people take for granted today, and contemplate the needs of any culture as a whole, it becomes clear that the feelings of the “excluded” and the “marginalized” simply don’t matter very much. Outside of progressive intellectual contexts, so insular and decadent, a man who “identifies as gender nonconforming,” or dons a pink pussy hat as he “speaks truth to power,” is not widely valued. If you take a biological point of view, or reflect on what it is that allows cultures to flourish, you should be able to see why that is.

    Absent from these guidelines, which are clearly written from a feminine point of view, is any sense of human life as being inherently competitive. Psychological man has been removed from the natural world, wherein competition, often brutal, is the norm for man no less than for the other animals.

    Yet despite our age of expert ignorance, the truth endures. “Dominant masculinity” may be “generally unattainable for most men,” but it’s still far better, given the nature of animal existence, to be a dominant male than a nondominant one. Nor do dominant men cease to be of far greater value than their opposites just because their dominance is difficult and rare. Besides, opposing discrimination does not require pathologizing traditional male virtues, which, at their best, make for a dominant type, on whom the rest depend, whether they want to or no.

    Group disparities in incarceration rates, the authors tell us, “may be the result of racial, ethnic, and gender stereotypes.” Found on every page, such predictable, cliché silliness betrays the underlying purpose of these guidelines: advancing a left-wing-feminist ideology. Science this document manifestly is not. It is quite telling that, while the psychological experts do not classify transgenderism as a disorder or mental illness, they do pathologize traditional (read: conservative) men.

    “Despite…[their] problems,” the experts write, “many boys and men do not receive the help they need.” Who says they need help? Why, the experts do! But is their help desirable? Consider the following passages:

    Male privilege tends to be invisible to men, yet they can become aware of it through a variety of means, such as education…and personal experience. Indeed, awareness of privilege and the harmful impacts of beliefs and behaviors that maintain patriarchal power have been shown to reduce sexist attitudes in men…and have been linked to participation in social justice activities….

    Psychologists strive to become aware of and eradicate any biases they have toward boys and men from historically marginalized groups…and to recognize value conflicts they may have with their service recipients. These biases may manifest in use of heterosexist assumptions (e.g., asking a male client if he has a wife without knowing his sexual orientation) or values (e.g., encouraging a gay man to act less “flamboyantly”)….

    Psychologists can help clients develop awareness of systems that assume cisgender masculinity expression is the expected norm, and identify how they have been harmed by discrimination against those who are gender nonconforming. Given the connections between sexism and other forms of prejudice, psychologists may find it useful to link oppressions as a pedagogical strategy, especially when working with boys and men in groups. Psychologists working with boys and men may model gender-egalitarian attitudes and behaviors; modeling non-sexist constructions of masculinity may be especially important.

    “Become aware of” “male privilege” by “participation in social justice activities,” for doing so “reduce[s] sexist attitudes and the harmful impacts of beliefs and behaviors that maintain patriarchal power.” Don’t assume “a male client…has a wife,” for that is a “heterosexist assumption…” and for all you know he is smitten with a goat. Don’t assume “cisgender masculinity expression is the expected norm,” for some are “gender nonconforming.” “Link oppressions as a pedagogical strategy,” so that no client is ignorant of the world’s many victims. Finally, “model gender-egalitarian attitudes and behaviors; modeling non-sexist constructions of masculinity may be especially important.” Ah, what a lot of work! Reach me a scotch, good team member.

    So, these are the values of the experts who would correct men and boys, as it were. In truth, their intentions could hardly be more foolish. Therapy culture has been an influential force in American life since the 1970s. Its primary effects have been unbridled narcissism and a tiresome hypersensitivity that only makes life harder for everyone. Even comedy, to which we’d like to turn for happy relief, has been disallowed by the stiff and humorless. Now the experts want feelings, more feelings, but with an intersectional twist.

    It is in eros, perhaps, that these guidelines, if acted on, would be most harmful. Although male academics and intellectuals are generally bad with women, so that they just don’t know any better, it’s nonetheless true that men who are forever expressing “their sensitive side” are sure to inspire the fair sex’s contempt, and to be easily manipulated by them.

    “A weak and suffering woman triggers in most men a compassionate desire to protect and assist,” says Janice Fiamengo, “while a weak and suffering man triggers in most women…indifference and disgust.”

    The social “scientists” who wrote the APA guidelines would not live the comfortable lives they do were it not for male ambition, competitiveness, risk-taking, and accomplishment, both past and present. Still, in their ingratitude they have condemned these traditional masculine virtues. “For decades,” writes psychologist Geoffrey Miller, a rare academic with guts, “the APA has been turning psychological therapy into institutionalized sexism against men. No wonder men are reluctant to become therapists or to go into therapy—it’s a hostile sexual environment.” John P. Wright, a criminologist at the University of Cincinnati, has acutely described “the consequences of labeling traditional men as toxic”:

    Understand that this document carries the weight of scientific authority. It will be used in the training of clinical psychologists, it will be used to justify programs that target boys who show signs of impending traditional masculinity, and it will be used to justify restrictive policies towards men. Think of how universities, especially the diversity czars, will use this, how the courts will use this in custody hearings, and how workplace training and policies will be affected. The APA has, in essence, justified…no, it has encouraged, discrimination against men who hold traditional views of masculinity. Will any of this aid in getting men the help they need or, once in the office, with actual counseling? I don’t think so. The report states that stoic traditional men are reluctant to enter therapy. Given what the APA thinks of them, can you now blame them?

    The most important lesson of the APA guidelines is the destructiveness of the “gender equality” experiment. Suppose a male-dominated field were to issue guidelines claiming traditional aspects of femininity are “unhealthy,” “problematic,” or what you will. Of course, that would never happen, because the responses would be indignant and hysterical. Psychology is dominated by women, and like many university programs around the country, these guidelines signify an effort to remake men in their image.

    Fathers must now take especial care to protect their sons from the excessive influence of women and feminized men, particularly in educational contexts and in the helping professions. Otherwise boys will be subjected to needless guilt and shame, as if they were virtues. Men in general must learn the hard truth that “gender equality” can really mean female dominance, unless they resist it, which very few are doing at present.

    Embodying the needs for emotional intimacy and sex, women have a deep psychological power over most men.

    (The "power of the pussy" in other words. Break that power, by any means: willful self denial, masturbation, use of prostitutes or sex robots, and you will have broken the only hold woemen has over man. Very liberating. - AF)

    Add to it women’s greater biological value—a source of endless paternalism in their favor—and we can begin to understand how over time “gender equality” can be so harmful to men. From the family courts to kangaroo courts on university campuses, from hiring quotas to these profoundly biased guidelines, women’s preferences, values, and interests have gradually become more and more dominant, a situation that men themselves take for “equality,” “progress,” and other delusions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    It's starting to look like the patients are running the asylum. This sort of medical tyranny should not be tolerated!

    These mental cases think they know better than all of us--because many of them have more degrees than a thermometer.
    Starting?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    Starting?
    Okay you got me...this is excellerating at speeds that I couldn't even imagine 10 years ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    That is because woemen are insane.
    And they don't care about other women (let alone boys and men), If they can get one of those then they are satisfied and want all of their sons to be girls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    My grandfather or his brothers would immediately punch someone who said this. These APA fools have never seen “masculinity”.
    How toxic!


    I myself have an overwhelming urge to track down the APA and teach them some common sense the hard way.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

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    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

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    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    How toxic!


    I myself have an overwhelming urge to track down the APA and teach them some common sense the hard way.
    They already backtracked on this big time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    They already backtracked on this big time.
    Good, but without even hearing the details I know it isn't enough.
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    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Good, but without even hearing the details I know it isn't enough.
    They made up some bull$#@!.

  26. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    They made up some bull$#@!.
    That's what they always do.
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    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

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    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

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    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    I think it would also be very helpful to discuss what it means to be both a Healthy Male and Healthy Female from a psychological perspective! We can all get better ideas of both what to do and what not to do, as well as cope with the constant Attacks on BOTH genders!

    First off, their biggest concern is not just Males, but ALPHA MALES. The way that is achieved is by having an even STRONGER MALE present, who does NOT lead by example, but uses the temporary submission to authority to damage their Mental Image of what it means to be a good upstanding honest male. TV does NOT provide Male Role Models that mirror young males experiences. TV males are either portrayed as Alpha Males who get to where they are by dishonesty, or are buffoons who continuously cause problems for everyone else. The key point here is that it inspires young male viewers to NOT WANT to grow up to be the ALPHA MALE.

    Next point is that only the ALPHA MALE gets the girls. So if he is not the ALPHA MALE, the next best thing is to become FEMALE instead of a NON ALPHA MALE.

    Now, for Defense.

    Understanding that the portrayal on the versions of men that are portrayed commonly is the MEDIA. It is not a direct assault at the front door or the conscious part of the mind, it is a BACK DOOR attack, where the mind is most vulnerable, by repeatedly showing the WORST versions of Adult Males, both Alpha and Non Alpha. Teach that to your kids. Real MEN are NOTHING like what is seen in TV. Real men are honest and loving and compassionate, and do prefer to avoid conflict, yet, they offer no quarter to their opponents. They try to find common ground without sacrificing a single inch. They are confident but not over confident. They inspire others to be proud of themselves, offer praise when they have done a good job at something, then if they do something wrong, they are both Stern yet Forgiving as their own forms of Authority. They let their children fall and allow them to learn how to pick themselves up, and stand by at a distance. They will immediately rush in and place their own lives on the line against true threats. They will sacrifice every part of themselves to defend their family and honest supportive social structures. Being able to teach children that what is portrayed on TV of males being the opposite of what it means to be a man is crucial to building Self Confidence and Self Esteem.

    Not Everyone is an Alpha.

    Male kids, especially in the presence of a strong father figure are not Alphas. They may be the Betas when dad is around, but can take on the role of Alpha if dad is not present. Others are simply followers. A small percentage will also be Omegas. There are some key elements between Alphas and Non Alphas, not just one thing. Timing is critical. Subject is also critical. Alphas express confidence about things they are good at, but do NOT hold on to their Alpha status on things they know they are terrible at. Some may still use Alpha status to hide and cover up the things they arent good at, but thats not a True Alpha as they use their masculinity to hide perceived flaws. True Alphas dont share buy into the notion that they are flawed by someone elses standards, but also are not Self Critical over Self perceived flaws, as Schools teach all children to be.

    To turn a Non Alpha into an Alpha, do the opposite of what you expect. If they fail at something, reward them, dont punish. The Reward for Failing is because they still try and DID learn something. As long as they are learning, the GRADES DO NOT MATTER. Thats a difference between being a Parent or Leader vs Educator. Educators do not allow learning from mistakes to build up to success, Leaders do, but only in controlled environments.

    Not everyone is good at everything, but everyone is good at something. Start off by building self confidence with reinforcement of being good at something, and show Submission to them as if they were the Alpha on that specific thing. Timing is also critical here as it needs to be done when they are feeling relatively confident. That allows them to practice being the Alpha. If you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, the fish will believe forever that it is an idiot. But put that fish in water and it is master of its environment. Teach children that School ITSELF has subjects, and every one of those subjects is another form of tree climbing. School will NEVER teach your kid to excel at what they are naturally good at. Are they good at Art? Music? Philosophy? Reinforce those things as if the child were the Authority on those subjects. If they are good at that thing, can they become good at other things too?

    A lot of this is repairing damage that has been done by the Brightest and most evil minds of men on the planet, so there is a LOT of work to be done here. Also unless you ARE an Alpha yourself, you may not know how to handle a True Alpha. TRUE ALPHA MALES REJECT OFFERS OF PRAISE. Expect that. When you see this, dont react negatively, what they are doing is relying on Internal Self Confidence, and are saying they dont need External Reinforcement. Try to be happy about that because that is exactly what we want. This also wont be 100% of the time. Zipf's Law applies here, which is the 80 / 20. The goal should be about 80% REJECTION of your praise and about 20% acceptance. Until they have truly mastered it, it can be easy to overload them. Try to let them stand and fail, and accept REJECTION of your opinions. If you know something is not quite right, dont attack head on, instead, BE the leader and inspire them to follow your example. Even if they reject offers of praise, they still LEARN by observing your behavior. They are choosing to observe, but they learn without the need for constant praise, which is exactly what has happened to Millennials. Failure is an opportunity to learn, and Success means they REJECT your praise, but still LEARN thru Observation.

    This is only a SMALL PART of training and undoing the damage caused by Education, MSM, and a very damaged society. Please add or correct as you feel is needed.
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