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Another example of "not competent" to stand trial...
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So they trespass her ... but then they explicitly tell her she can stay ... (so ... which is it?) ... and then they escalate to "hands-on" force ... why, exactly? Because she refused to play "Simon Says" with them ("Simon says sit down! Simon says get off the phone!") while waiting for her papers - which they invited her to do, despite that they had trespassed her?
And they needed four cops to handle this dangerous not-down-sitting not-phone-off-getting menace to society?
Who is supposed to be the "toxic" one(s) here - the cop(s), or the arrestee?
Yes. "Or".
Because the arrestee didn't actually do anything to justify being forcibly cop-handled. At worst, she was just being stubborn and annoying (neither of which are crimes). She wasn't even being detained (the cops told her she was free to leave, but that if she did and then came back, she'd be arrested for trespassing).
The cops had no business laying hands on her. They would have if she had refused to leave after being trespassed - but that's not what happened. They actually invited her to stay and wait for her papers after they had trespass-warned her. (I mean, WTF? Was she being trespassed or not?) Then they escalated to "hands-on" (in one of the cops' own words) - apparently just for "contempt of cop" because she didn't bow her head, tug her forelock, and ask "how high, m'lords?" after being told to jump (i.e., sit down and get off the phone).
Snowflakes who can't cope with at-worst stubborn and annoying people without resorting to force shouldn't be cops.
No. The cop is criminally toxic. The cop's victim is merely toxic. You're absolutely right that there's a major difference between those things. But the criminal nature of the cop's toxicity no more nulls the toxin of her victim than Harris' raging incompetence makes Trump good at anything.
Perhaps. But if it's that element of "my feelings count, yours don't" that defines toxicity, then both the cop and the civilian have that in spades. And it would make "toxic" a useful enough label. Just wouldn't make it useful for explaining how the cop is worse in this case, because it doesn't consider abuse of authority.
Last edited by acptulsa; 10-16-2024 at 06:44 AM.
Cops are civilians.
I didn't see any of what I would describe as "my feelings count, yours don't" in the video. For some reason, the woman obstinately refused to leave without some kind of papers. Maybe her obstinance was warranted. Maybe it wasn't. I don't have enough information to judge. (And in any case, sometimes other peoples' "feelings" don't and shouldn't count, either. Perhaps this was one of those times. Perhaps not. Again, I don't have enough information to judge.)
But the cops obstinately insisted on playing "Simon Says" with her - apparently just for the sake of "our authority counts, and your rights don't" - and that wasn't warranted. They were just flexing on her. If her refusal to kowtow to their flexing is "toxic", then we could do with a hell of a lot more "toxicity".
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"Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
"Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
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Meanwhile, a measurement of feminine foresight:
Wait, are you trying to take away one of my best victim cards...?
Why not all involved? We just have the cops perspective. What happened before that? I would like to know why the business called the police in the first place.
From what we hear, they started work on the girl (diagnose?), but she decided to leave, and wanted a copy of the diagnosis. So we already have conflict. How dare a lowly patient question the mighty medical providers. The nurse that was in the video that was supposed to supply the papers seemed to be a bit "toxic" herself. "It will take some time, go away, we'll mail it to you." It seemed that between all of them they couldn't figure out when the paperwork would be ready.
What we had here was most likely a clash of multiple female egos, all being difficult and antagonistic with each other. Obviously the cops were most in the wrong, and with the female cop, you have the combination of female ego and "respect my authority" training.
All of that aside, the girl did seem to be a bit touched in the head. She kept repeating herself and would never shut up. She talked about not wanting to go back to jail. In the police car, she seemed like she may have gone full bi-polar or schizophrenic, having conversations with herself. If I had to guess, she is mentally ill, compounded by being attractive enough to have been catered to most of her life. If she were not attractive, would she have been treated differently by the other women? Would they have recognized mental illness in someone who looked the role?
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"Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
"Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
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“It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan
If America is only an idea, then there is no need for masses of immigrants to come here since they can just create the idea in their own countries. - Random Thought from the Interwebs.
“It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan
If America is only an idea, then there is no need for masses of immigrants to come here since they can just create the idea in their own countries. - Random Thought from the Interwebs.
"Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
"Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
"Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
"Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul
Proponent of real science.
The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.
"Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
"Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
"Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
"Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul
Proponent of real science.
The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.
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