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    Trump Orchestrates A Win-Win Immigration Plan With Mexico

    Economic free zones on Mexico’s northern border could stem illegal immigration into the US.

    Prepare to be shocked.
    The Mexican government just announced that it intends to implement a policy that supports President Trump’s efforts against illegal immigration. That’s right — Mexico will soon launch an initiative designed to stem the flow of illegal immigrants into the United States.
    You might be thinking: “But the Mexican government has always encouraged its citizens to enter the U.S. illegally!” That’s right, but it appears that under its new leader, Mexico is turning over a new leaf.


    Newly elected Mexican President Andrés Manuel López Obrador recently announced that he is implementing a policy designed to incentivize Mexican citizens to remain in their country rather than attempt to gain illegal entry into the United States. While it is a long-term approach, its success would benefit both countries.
    Mexico Announces Free Zones

    López Obrador recently announced a plan for his country’s northern border area that it shares with the United States. He will create an economic “free zone” to provide more opportunities for businesses and workers that will spur investments and growth.
    The purpose of the free zone is to encourage Mexicans to remain in Mexico to work instead of entering the United States illegally. This initiative represents a dramatic departure from the Mexican government’s previous approach to the issue.
    The free zone will offer drastically reduced taxes, a doubling of the minimum wage, and other business- and worker-friendly benefits. “It’s going to be the biggest free zone in the world,” López Obrador said. “It is a very important project for winning investment, creating jobs, and taking advantage of the economic strength of the United States.


    A New Paradigm?

    President Trump has cultivated a relationship with López Obrador since he won the Mexican election in 2018. The two leaders have discussed issues related to trade and immigration, and those conversations are bearing fruit.
    Of course, the media do not want to report on this story, because this new development marks tremendous progress orchestrated by the Trump administration. It is a gigantic reversal of Mexico’s previous policies.
    It’s no wonder that until now Mexico’s leaders have dragged their feet in working with the United States to slow down the illegal outflow of their citizens. The remittances sent back to their home country every year by those finding work or receiving welfare in the United States, likely in the tens of billions, are a boon to Mexico’s economy. Never mind that those dollars were a net loss to the U.S. economy. Another whopper is the amount calculated for all illegal immigrants in the United States: In 2016, more than $100 billion in remittances were sent back to home countries.
    Free zones will not produce results overnight, but If Mexican citizens are afforded greater opportunities in their home country, they are less likely to enter the United States illegally. No other American president has persuaded Mexico to become part of the solution instead of contributing to the problem. It’s a paradigm shift.
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    How does everybody on the TDS forum feel about forced unions, doubling the minimum wage, International Labour Organization, etc? The goal is to ratify this between the U.S., Mexico and Canada.

    Is Trump exceeding expectations?

    Many have stated that they are worried about foreigners spreading socialism like cancer here in the states, but it appears that the U.S. is spreading it throughout the world.... MAGA --> USMCA --> North American Union -->
    Last edited by PAF; 01-09-2019 at 10:59 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    How does everybody on the TDS forum feel about forced unions, doubling the minimum wage, International Labour Organization, etc? The goal is to ratify this between the U.S., Mexico and Canada.

    Is Trump exceeding expectations?
    WTF are you talking about? The article said doubling the minimum wage, but then you just threw a bunch of crap in there.

    Doubling the minimum wage is bad, but offsetting it somewhat with a tax cut will help businesses absorb the cost. It probably will ultimately cause job losses, but with the overall overhaul, not sure what the effect will be in the end.

    This also isn't something Trump did specifically line by line, he did help negotiate for it though. Some of the things they are doing in the economic free zones certainly are good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    WTF are you talking about? The article said doubling the minimum wage, but then you just threw a bunch of crap in there.

    Doubling the minimum wage is bad, but offsetting it somewhat with a tax cut will help businesses absorb the cost. It probably will ultimately cause job losses, but with the overall overhaul, not sure what the effect will be in the end.

    This also isn't something Trump did specifically line by line, he did help negotiate for it though. Some of the things they are doing in the economic free zones certainly are good.
    Oh, you haven't read USMCA yet. My bad. Sorry for getting ahead of the curve.

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    I see people across the street building makeshift ladders and filling
    backpacks with snacks and water, one of them just stuffed a English
    to Spanish for dummies book in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Oh, you haven't read USMCA yet. My bad. Sorry for getting ahead of the curve.
    Which section?
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc


    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Which section?
    You seriously have got to be kidding me.

    Why don't read it for yourself so that you know what's in it?

    I received a letter response from one of my legislators (Democrat). He stated that the reason that it did not pass yet is because it does not go far enough and they can do a lot more with it.

    Stay tuned MAGA


    https://ustr.gov/trade-agreements/fr...eement-between
    Last edited by PAF; 01-09-2019 at 11:17 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    You seriously have got to be kidding me.

    Why don't read it for yourself so that you know what's in it?

    I received a letter response from one of my legislators (Democrat). He stated that the reason that it did not pass yet is because it does not go far enough and they can do a lot more with it.

    Stay tuned MAGA


    https://ustr.gov/trade-agreements/fr...eement-between
    Ya, I got that far.. which section has the part about the forced unions? I searched union on the main page and found nothing and there are like 50 sections.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc


    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."



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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Ya, I got that far.. which section has the part about the forced unions? I searched union on the main page and found nothing and there are like 50 sections.
    Gloss over Chapter 23.

    Read the whole thing.

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    Sounds legit
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Trump hasn't even been in 6 months, you can't call him a boondoggle President unless he has overseen a military boondoggle for at least a year or two.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Gloss over Chapter 23.

    Read the whole thing.
    So Mexico has to agree to allow employees to form unions? How is that forcing people to have unions? Sounds like they are getting more rights. Maybe Mexico will elect Trump as their next President?

    I am ok with not allowing unions for government workers, but that's about as far as she goes.
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    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc


    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    So Mexico has to agree to allow employees to form unions? How is that forcing people to have unions? Sounds like they are getting more rights. Maybe Mexico will elect Trump as their next President?

    I am ok with not allowing unions for government workers, but that's about as far as she goes.
    I am against the USMCA but if you are right about that then that isn't one of the reasons why.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    So Mexico has to agree to allow employees to form unions? How is that forcing people to have unions? Sounds like they are getting more rights. Maybe Mexico will elect Trump as their next President?

    I am ok with not allowing unions for government workers, but that's about as far as she goes.
    I thought you were a nationalist. How is this ok?

    For the purposes of this Chapter:
    ILO Declaration
    on Rights at Work
    means the International Labor Organization (ILO)
    Declaration on Fundamental Principles and Rights at Work and its Follow
    -Up (1998)
    ;
    (c)
    the effective abolition of child labor, a prohibition on the worst forms of child labor,
    and other labor protections for children and minors;
    (d)
    the elimination of discrimination in respect of employment and occupation; and
    (e)
    acceptable conditions of work with respect to minimum wages,
    1
    hours of work, and
    occupational safety and health;
    "The Patriarch"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    I thought you were a nationalist. How is this ok?
    I'm not a nationalist, I'm just rooting for them right now because they are advocating the hardest for a more peaceful foreign policy and smaller government.. and have the best shot at pulling through.. and our welfare system is causing some huge immigration issues that needs to be addressed one way or another so we don't go full socialist retard..

    I don't like managed trade deals, but I am willing to bet this one will be better than whatever it is replacing overall.. despite all the feminist wage nonsense in there..
    Last edited by dannno; 01-09-2019 at 11:41 PM.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc


    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    I'm not a nationalist, I'm just rooting for them right now because they are advocating the hardest for a more peaceful foreign policy and smaller government.. and have the best shot at pulling through.. and our welfare system is causing some huge immigration issues that needs to be addressed one way or another so we don't go full socialist retard..

    I don't like managed trade deals, but I am willing to bet this one will be better than whatever it is replacing overall.. despite all the feminist wage nonsense in there..
    I agree;
    TPP sold out our sovereignty, a globalist agreement, free trade means no tariffs,
    I don't blame Trump one bit though for placing tariffs on countries that have
    had tariffs on our goods for decades.
    So a TPP agreement that would work would be one you could
    join and or withdraw from at any time, it would be one page, one sentence;
    -
    ''We don't 'do' tariffs''

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    Quote Originally Posted by shakey1 View Post
    The free zone will offer drastically reduced taxes, a doubling of the minimum wage....
    They just don't get it.



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