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Thread: Ron Paul: Remove incentives for illegal immigrants instead of building border wall

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    Ron Paul: Remove incentives for illegal immigrants instead of building border wall

    Former Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) said Tuesday that President Trump's proposed wall along the southern border is not the best solution to curbing illegal immigration.

    "I don't like walls. I don't want to wall people in and wall people out," Paul said on CNBC's "Squawk Box."

    "I don't want free, open borders either," he continued. "I think you have to remove the incentives for people to come."

    Paul, who ran for president in 2008 and 2012, argued that welfare programs and an easy path to citizenship entice immigrants to come to the U.S. He suggested that removing those incentives would be a more effective deterrent to illegal immigration.

    https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...-deter-illegal
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    Trump hasn't even been in 6 months, you can't call him a boondoggle President unless he has overseen a military boondoggle for at least a year or two.




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    OMGerds, Ron Paul said he doesn't want "free open borders!" Stone him!

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    He was in Congress for 20 years and couldn’t manage to get close to enough votes even get this to the floor for debate.
    "There are two freedoms - the false, where a man is free to do what he likes; the true, where he is free to do what he ought."~~Charles Kingsley

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    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    He was in Congress for 20 years and couldn’t manage to get close to enough votes even get this to the floor for debate.
    He didn't get elected president either, what a loser.
    "The Patriarch"

    willie with tan lines: enjoy the shots and the woman
    Quote Originally Posted by Schifference View Post
    The man did not think clearly. It was almost as if he had brain cancer of something.

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    How many threads do we need on this?
    "The Patriarch"

    willie with tan lines: enjoy the shots and the woman
    Quote Originally Posted by Schifference View Post
    The man did not think clearly. It was almost as if he had brain cancer of something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    OMGerds, Ron Paul said he doesn't want "free open borders!" Stone him!
    But notice how he explained what he meant by that. He wants to remove the incentives of welfare availability to immigrants and an easy path to citizenship. But he doesn't want to prevent them from coming here.

    This was actually pretty illustrative, and a good interview to bring up any time people provide variations of Ron Paul quotes saying the he doesn't support totally free and open borders, thinking that means he's for restricting immigration, which he clearly explains he is not, in the very context of saying that line.
    Last edited by Superfluous Man; 01-09-2019 at 09:52 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    He was in Congress for 20 years and couldn’t manage to get close to enough votes even get this to the floor for debate.
    Getting something to the floor for a debate isn't primarily a function of how many votes it gets. It's a decision of the House leadership.

    But what specific bill are you talking about here?

    There were plenty of times the issues RP is talking about here were debated on the House floor and voted on in various bills in the House during his tenure, and plenty of representatives who agreed with him on these positions.
    Last edited by Superfluous Man; 01-09-2019 at 09:54 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    How many threads do we need on this?
    Seems like we need more. That is, until morale improves...

    Gulag Chief:
    "Article 58-1a, twenty five years... What did you get it for?"
    Gulag Prisoner: "For nothing at all."
    Gulag Chief: "You're lying... The sentence for nothing at all is 10 years"





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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    How many threads do we need on this?
    One for every thread about how we need wall because mexicans.
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Trump hasn't even been in 6 months, you can't call him a boondoggle President unless he has overseen a military boondoggle for at least a year or two.




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