Good Clean supplements are a multi-billion dollar enterprise. I believe in most instances they cannot make any claims on the efficacy of their products. Many are scam products with absolutely useless ingredients.Originally Posted by donnay
This is true, which is why it's important that you be willing to pay a premium to make sure your NaCl is genuine Himalayan NaCl, for example.
Uh huh. I have no problem with them making money just like any one else.
This is a company I like to buy my supplements from: https://www.nutrabio.com/category/vitamin/
There are many other good companies out there, but everyone has to do their own research and also know your body enough to know what you may be deficient in. One size does not fit all.
“The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner
To be able to make health claims, they have to be able to document those claims- so you won't see any claims. Nor are their supplements required to contain what they say they do unlike drug makers. If a person is concerned about untested products....
I have heard cases of people taking vitamins and becoming autistic.
The company link I posted above is indeed tested. There are no fillers added to any of their products. You can even go to their plant and take a tour. It is very sterile and they have very good products.
Big pHARMa is the reason why supplement companies cannot make claims, but they are allowed to make the claims. They really hate competition. However, it is incumbent upon the person to do the research to look at what different deficiencies they may have or go to a holistic / Naturopathic / Chiropractor practitioner to help you figure it out. That's what I did. Allopathic practitioners have very little expertise in nutrition.
“The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner
You have a link to that, or is that just a rumor?
“The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner
Getting back on topic:
https://www.naturalnews.com/2019-05-...y-vaccine.htmlBombshell Flashback: Merck FAKED mumps vaccine research, released faulty vaccine that didn’t work, say virologists in False Claims Act filing
Wednesday, May 01, 2019 by: Mike Adams
With the deceptive “mainstream” media now running measles hysteria 24/7, you might be shocked to learn that the MMR vaccine doesn’t work as claimed. Even Reuters is now reporting that 10% of those infected with the measles were previously vaccinated against the measles.
This stunning admission is found in an April 29 article from Reuters entitled, “U.S. measles outbreak raises questions about immunity in adults.” The article states:
Up to 10 percent of the 695 confirmed measles cases in the current outbreak occurred in people who received one or two doses of the vaccine, according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
Merck FAKED vaccine efficacy data and committed widespread scientific fraud, say virologists
If you’re wondering why so many people who were vaccinated against measles, mumps and rubella are now being infected with the measles, you have to remember that Merck faked its MMR vaccine efficacy data by spiking human blood samples with animal antibodies, according to two former Merck employees who say they were ordered by Merck management to carry out the massive science fraud.
The two Merck virologists, named Stephen Krahling and Joan Wlochowski, filed a False Claims Act document in 2010 that specifically called out Merck’s fraudulent vaccine deception as running the risk of contributing the future outbreaks of infectious disease. That’s exactly what we’re seeing today, of course, with measles spreading across America, even among those who were previously vaccinated against measles. (Because the vaccine doesn’t work, get it?)
Natural News originally covered this story in 2012, and we preserved the original False Claims Act document at the following link, making sure it wasn’t memory-holed off the internet:
https://www.naturalnews.com/gallery/...Claims-Act.pdf
Read it yourself and you’ll learn the stunning truth about vaccine science fraud that the lying mainstream media dare not report.
Here’s my original coverage of this from 2012:
Merck vaccine fraud exposed by two Merck virologists; company faked mumps vaccine efficacy results for over a decade, says lawsuit
According to two Merck scientists who filed a False Claims Act complaint in 2010 — a complaint which has just now been unsealed — vaccine manufacturer Merck knowingly falsified its mumps vaccine test data, spiked blood samples with animal antibodies, sold a vaccine that actually promoted mumps and measles outbreaks, and ripped off governments and consumers who bought the vaccine thinking it was “95% effective.”
See that False Claims Act document at:
https://www.naturalnews.com/gallery/...Claims-Act.pdf
According to Stephen Krahling and Joan Wlochowski, both former Merck virologists, the Merck company engaged in all the following behavior:
• Merck knowingly falsified its mumps vaccine test results to fabricate a “95% efficacy rate.”
• In order to do this, Merck spiked the blood test with animal antibodies in order to artificially inflate the appearance of immune system antibodies. As reported in CourthouseNews.com:
Merck also added animal antibodies to blood samples to achieve more favorable test results, though it knew that the human immune system would never produce such antibodies, and that the antibodies created a laboratory testing scenario that “did not in any way correspond to, correlate with, or represent real life … virus neutralization in vaccinated people,” according to the complaint.(http://www.courthousenews.com/2012/06/27/478…)
• Merck then used the falsified trial results to swindle the U.S. government out of “hundreds of millions of dollars for a vaccine that does not provide adequate immunization.”
• Merck’s vaccine fraud has actually contributed to the continuation of mumps across America, causing more children to become infected with mumps. (Gee, really? This is what NaturalNews has been reporting for years… vaccines are actually formulated to keep the outbreaks going because it’s great for repeat business!)
• Merck used its false claims of “95 percent effectiveness” to monopolize the vaccine market and eliminate possible competitors.
• The Merck vaccine fraud has been going on since the late 1990’s, say the Merck virologists.
• Testing of Merck’s vaccine was never done against “real-world” mumps viruses in the wild. Instead, test results were simply falsified to achieve the desired outcome.
• This entire fraud took place “with the knowledge, authority and approval of Merck’s senior management.”
• Merck scientists “witnessed firsthand the improper testing and data falsification in which Merck engaged to artificially inflate the vaccine’s efficacy findings,” according to court documents (see below).
US government chose to ignore the 2010 False Claims Act!
Rather than taking action on this false claims act, the U.S. government simply ignored it, thereby protecting Merck’s market monopoly instead of properly serving justice. This demonstrates the conspiracy of fraud between the U.S. government, FDA regulators and the vaccine industry.
Chatom Primary Care sues Merck for Sherman Act monopolization, breach of warranty, violation of consumer protection laws
Following the unsealing of this 2010 False Claims Act, Chatom Primary Care, based in Alabama, smelled something rotten. Three days ago, Chatom filed a lawsuit against Merck. That lawsuit record is available here:
www.naturalnews.com/gallery/documents/Chatom…
It alleges, among other shocking things:
[Merck engaged in] …a decade-long scheme to falsify and misrepresent the true efficacy of its vaccine.
Merck fraudulently represented and continues to falsely represent in its labeling and elsewhere that its Mumps Vaccine has an efficacy rate of 95 percent of higher.
In reality, Merck knows and has taken affirmative steps to conceal — by using improper testing techniques and falsifying test data — that its Mumps Vaccine is, and has been since at least 1999, far less than 95 percent effective.
Merck designed a testing methodology that evaluated its vaccine against a less virulent strain of the mumps virus. After the results failed to yield Merck’s desired efficacy, Merck abandoned the methodology and concealed the study’s findings.
…incorporating the use of animal antibodies to artificially inflate the results…
…destroying evidence of the falsified data and then lying to an FDA investigator…
…threatened a virologist in Merck’s vaccine division with jail if he reported the fraud to the FDA…
…the ultimate victims here are the millions of children who every year are being injected with a mumps vaccine that is not providing them with an adequate level of protection. And while this is a disease that, according to the Centers for Disease Control (‘CDC’), was supposed to be eradicated by now, the failure in Merck’s vaccine has allowed this disease to linger, with significant outbreaks continuing to occur.
Chatom Primary Care also alleges that the fraudulent Merck vaccine contributed to the 2006 mumps outbreak in the Midwest, and a 2009 outbreak elsewhere. It says, “there has remained a significant risk of a resurgence of mumps outbreaks…”
This investigation is only beginning
NaturalNews has only begun to investigate this incredible breaking news about Merck and the vaccine industry. We are pouring through the court documents to identify additional information that may be relevant to this case, and we plan to bring you that information soon.
For the record, Merck denies all allegations. Is anyone surprised?
Sources for this article:
NaturalNews wishes to thank CourthouseNews.com for its coverage of this story. Original article at: http://www.courthousenews.com/2012/06/27/478…
Chatom Lawsuit against Merck
www.naturalnews.com/gallery/documents/Chatom…
2010 False Claims Act against Merck, by two Merck virologists
www.naturalnews.com/gallery/documents/Merck-…
Announcement of the lawsuit in the media:
http://www.nasdaq.com/article/lawsuit-claims…
Last edited by donnay; 05-01-2019 at 01:43 PM.
“The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner
Rice flour would classify as a filler. https://www.nutrabio.com/product/51596/
Who is testing their product?
Rice flour would classify as a filler. https://www.nutrabio.com/product/51596/
Who is testing their product?They also have third party testing.NutraBio Labs has a "No Compromise" commitment to producing the purest, cleanest, and most effective supplements on the market. All of our products are manufactured in-house in our FDA-inspected, GMP certified facility in New Jersey. NutraBio only uses the most superior ingredients and all ingredients are tested by us and a third party lab to ensure 99.98% purity or greater. Our products all include fully transparent labels featuring clinical doses of the highest quality ingredients available. To ensure our customers of our commitment to product quality, we launched a new website Checkmysupps.com which allows our consumers access to independent 3rd-party lab test results of all our products.
Each and every single ingredient that NutraBio puts in their supplements are rigorously tested for quality and purity. NutraBio is now publicly releasing the results of 3rd party lab tests conducted on their products, so that you can see for yourself how your supplements checked out!
View the date your item was tested, the results of the test, and even the name of the chemist that conducted the test.
Full transparency!
You can view a copy of the results by entering the lot number, located on the bottom of each bottle of NutraBio supplements into the form above.
“The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner
Thanks for the info. Some companies own the "third party" testing their products. The FDA only inspects to see if the lab is clean and sanitary- they don't check any product ingredients.
Some preliminary findings presented this week at a meeting of autism researchers may have mothers-to-be fretting about their prenatal vitamins.
The blockbuster statistic that sent tongues wagging was this: Women who got too much folate and vitamin B12 during pregnancy were 17.6 times more likely to have their children diagnosed with an autism spectrum disorder.
Good, I don't want the FDA involved any other way. It's funny how vigorously you question supplements, but your not too concerned about the safety of the ingredients and efficacy of vaccines. Hmm.
“The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner
Just trying to apply the same criteria to vitamins you apply to vaccines. Vaccines are tested, vitamins are not. Both are big dollar industries. And at over 20,000 people a year, supplements send way more people to the hospital. (and it is usually the vitamin sellers trying to say vaccines are bad and their products are good- that Natural News article had several links to buying their vitamins in it).
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Hmm...and who was the supplement company? Lot's of prenatal vitamins are made by subsidiaries of Big pHARMa, so I would be interested in seeing some stats on that.
“The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner
Almost 60,000 instances of vitamin toxicity are reported annually to US poison control centers. [1, 2] According to National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey (NHANES) data, in 2003–2006 33% of the United States population aged 1 year and older took a multivitamin supplement in a given month. [3] In a 2009 survey, 56% of US consumers said they take vitamins or supplements, with 44% saying they take them daily. [4] (See Pathophysiology and Etiology.)
Owing to their ability to accumulate in the body, fat-soluble vitamins have a higher potential for toxicity than do water-soluble vitamins. Iron-containing vitamins are the most toxic, especially in pediatric acute ingestions
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Vaccine are not tested and haven't been by independent testing. There is a huge conflict of interest when the vaccine maker pays for their own studies. Merck has been caught lying many times and yet they are still in business.
“The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner
Vitamins are toxic and deadly. Alternative medicine lies about their safety.
Yeah, that is one reason I stressed to research clean supplements. I certainly wouldn't buy my supplements at the Dollar store or Walmart.
Centrum and Centrum Silver is widely taken by people, and that is made by Pfizer.com.
“The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner
Internet myth. Vaccines ARE tested.
https://www.fda.gov/vaccines-blood-b...proval-process
More at link.Vaccine Product Approval Process
FDA's Center for Biologics Evaluation and Research (CBER) is responsible for regulating vaccines in the United States. Current authority for the regulation of vaccines resides primarily in Section 351 of the Public Health Service Act and specific sections of the Federal Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act.
Vaccine clinical development follows the same general pathway as for drugs and other biologics. A sponsor who wishes to begin clinical trials with a vaccine must submit an Investigational New Drug application (IND) to FDA. The IND describes the vaccine, its method of manufacture, and quality control tests for release. Also included are information about the vaccine's safety and ability to elicit a protective immune response (immunogenicity) in animal testing, as well as the proposed clinical protocol for studies in humans.
Pre-marketing (pre-licensure) vaccine clinical trials are typically done in three phases, as is the case for any drug or biologic. Initial human studies, referred to as Phase 1, are safety and immunogenicity studies performed in a small number of closely monitored subjects. Phase 2 studies are dose-ranging studies and may enroll hundreds of subjects. Finally, Phase 3 trials typically enroll thousands of individuals and provide the critical documentation of effectiveness and important additional safety data required for licensing. At any stage of the clinical or animal studies, if data raise significant concerns about either safety or effectiveness, FDA may request additional information or studies, or may halt ongoing clinical studies.
If successful, the completion of all three phases of clinical development can be followed by the submission of a Biologics License Application (BLA). To be considered, the license application must provide the multidisciplinary FDA reviewer team (medical officers, microbiologists, chemists, biostatisticians, etc.) with the efficacy and safety information necessary to make a risk/benefit assessment and to recommend or oppose the approval of a vaccine. Also during this stage, the proposed manufacturing facility undergoes a pre-approval inspection during which production of the vaccine as it is in progress is examined in detail.
Following FDA's review of a license application for a new indication, the sponsor and the FDA may present their findings to FDA's Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee (VRBPAC). This non-FDA expert committee (scientists, physicians, biostatisticians, and a consumer representative) provides advice to the Agency regarding the safety and efficacy of the vaccine for the proposed indication.
Vaccine approval also requires the provision of adequate product labeling to allow health care providers to understand the vaccine's proper use, including its potential benefits and risks, to communicate with patients and parents, and to safely deliver the vaccine to the public.
The FDA continues to oversee the production of vaccines after the vaccine and the manufacturing processes are approved, in order to ensure continuing safety. After licensure, monitoring of the product and of production activities, including periodic facility inspections, must continue as long as the manufacturer holds a license for the product. If requested by the FDA, manufacturers are required to submit to the FDA the results of their own tests for potency, safety, and purity for each vaccine lot. They may also required to submit samples of each vaccine lot to the FDA for testing. However, if the sponsor describes an alternative procedure which provides continued assurance of safety, purity and potency, CBER may determine that routine submission of lot release protocols (showing results of applicable tests) and samples is not necessary.
Until a vaccine is given to the general population, all potential adverse events cannot be anticipated. Thus, many vaccines undergo Phase 4 studies-formal studies on a vaccine once it is on the market. Also, the government relies on the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) to identify problems after marketing begins. The VAERS system and how it works is discussed further on this website.
Most multivitamins and supplements are a 'waste of money'
"Not only are vitamin and mineral supplements a waste of money, they can in some instances actually harm the body," reports The Guardian.
https://www.nhs.uk/news/medical-prac...e-waste-money/
A relevant note for understanding things like the vaccine push comes from understanding that the current economic system constantly requires expansion. It always requires more reasons to print more money and more reasons for people to spend more money and rack up more credit debt. With that in mind, a healthy population is bad for the economy. The cancer industry is a huge driver of money creation, for example. Therefore, big pharma spends a lot of effort creating problems with their drugs/vaccines to ensure that required expansion of the money/credit/debt system. This applies to many industries but big pharma, big agri (Monsanto, et al) and others are in the business of poisoning people intentionally. Keeping people just healthy enough to continue to labor while just ill enough to require more and more health expenditures. Same applies to the pet industry, also. The explosion of cancer in pets? Yep, same thing. People will put their dog's tumor removal surgery on a credit card and spend almost any amount on their pets.
We don't hear much about Codex Alimentarius (sp?) anymore, do we?
"Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul
"We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book
Herbal medicines can have dangerous side effects, research reveals
They can cause kidney or liver damage, and are sometimes adulterated with steroids, pesticides, antibiotics or harmful metals
Herbal medicines can cause kidney failure and liver damage in some consumers because they contain toxic chemicals or heavy metals, or react harmfully with other drugs, a study has found.
The finding comes from a paper on Monday. Researchers led by the University of Adelaide reviewed the findings from 52 studies of herbal medicines and toxicology.
The lead author of the review, pathology professor Roger Byard, said the Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA) should require independent testing of herbal medicines before placing them on the market, and that legal action should be considered when products did not comply with regulations. The products should also be closely monitored once on the market, he said.
https://www.theguardian.com/australi...search-reveals
Zips new neighbors - Unsterilized anti-vaxx Kenyan "immigrants"
Some illegal alien Kenyan anti-vaxx "immigrants" will be moving in next door to you soon.
You asked for it, you got it.
Make America the Land of the Free & the Home of the Brave again
LOL!
Yes! But I have said over and over it is incumbent upon the people to research for themselves. It is good to know your body. It is good to eat nutritiously. It's good to get a good nights sleep. It is good to exercise, and most of all, practicing good hygiene. It is good to drink clean filtered water. Geez.
Last edited by donnay; 05-01-2019 at 03:23 PM.
“The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner
Apply all the aforementioned before taking a vaccine.
Yes, I do and I also look at the vaccine inserts and read the ingredients. Many people did not know they can ask for it.
“The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner
You seem healthy enough to take a vaccine. Good luck.Yes, I do and I also look at the vaccine inserts and read the ingredients. Many people did not know they can ask for it.
Many pharmaceuticals have deadly side effects too but, big pharma is allowed to produce and sell them. The FDA will admit that their are 18 deaths per 100,000 people due to taking properly prescribed, taken as directed drugs. If you are prescribed a med I hope you will look up the side effects of the drug and, if death or worse disease than the one being treated is one of them that you will seriously consider finding some other treatment.Herbal medicines can have dangerous side effects, research reveals
I am sure there are no where near as many people dying because they took herbs mainly because people who take them are usually much more in touch with what their body does and how it reacts to things put in it.
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