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    THE 'GREEN NEW DEAL'

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    THE 'GREEN NEW DEAL': A RADICAL MANDATE FOR GOVERNMENT CONTROL OF AMERICAN SOCIETY

    https://news.grabien.com/story-ocasi...government-con


    Incoming New York Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez brings with her a massive online following, influence she says she’ll deploy only in support of candidates and politicians who support her plan for a “Green New Deal.”

    “The Green New Deal” is something Ocasio-Cortez invokes frequently in media appearances and rallies.

    So what’s actually in it?

    Her office recently released the text of a proposed House rules change outlining the plan.

    The proposed rule change for the upcoming 116th Congress would require the creation of a “Select Committee for a Green Deal” that would be responsible for creating the plan by January 1, 2020, with corresponding draft legislation soon after. The text of the rule change lays out the committee’s jurisdiction and required areas of action.

    Its scope and mandate for legislative authority amounts to a radical grant of power to Washington over Americans’ lives, homes, businesses, travel, banking, and more.

    Early on, under “Jurisdiction,” the document makes clear its grandiose philosophical vision: “The select committee shall have authority to develop a detailed national, industrial, economic mobilization plan for the transition of the United States economy to become greenhouse gas emissions neutral and to significantly draw down greenhouse gases from the atmosphere and oceans and to promote economic and environmental justice and equality.”

    In addition to achieving its goal of “meeting 100% of national power demand through renewable sources,” the document also repeatedly states the Green New Deal will advance non-environmental projects, such as, “social, economic, racial, regional and gender-based justice.”

    Ocasio-Cortez’s plan further claims it will (virtually) eliminate poverty: “The Plan for a Green New Deal (and the draft legislation) shall recognize that a national, industrial, economic mobilization of this scope and scale is a historic opportunity to virtually eliminate poverty in the United States and to make prosperity, wealth and economic security available to everyone participating in the transformation.”

    More specifically, Ocasio-Cortez’s plan calls for, within 10 years, a series of lofty overhauls of American life [emphasis added]:

    The installation of a “national, energy-efficient, “smart grid.”
    “Upgrading every residential and industrial building for state-of-the-art energy efficiency, comfort and safety”
    “Eliminating greenhouse gas emissions from the manufacturing, agricultural and other industries” as well as from America’s transportation and infrastructure network
    Funding “massive investment” in reducing existing greenhouse gasses
    Between its calls for “upgrading” homes and overhauling travel, public infrastructure, and even the way Americans consume electricity, the plan leaves virtually no facet of everyday life untouched. Think of how often you don’t use electricity to imagine how much of your average day the plan wouldn’t impact.

    The proposed committee would also have seemingly total oversight of American industry, with a mandate for pushing union membership. Under “Scope of the Plan,” a section on labor states the committee’s final plan shall: “Require strong enforcement of labor, workplace safety, and wage standards that recognize the rights of workers to organize and unionize free of coercion, intimidation, and harassment, and creation of meaningful, quality, career employment.”

    Later in the document, Ocasio Cortez’s plan imagines creating a national jobs force to help people participate in this “transition.” The Green New Deal, it says, shall “provide all members of our society, across all regions and all communities, the opportunity, training and education to be a full and equal participant in the transition, including through a job guarantee program to assure a living wage job to every person who wants one.”

    The plan also imagines creating governmental support for “transitioning” minority communities. The deal shall: “ensure a ‘just transition’ for all workers, low-income communities, communities of color, indigenous communities, rural and urban communities and the front-line communities most affected by climate change, pollution and other environmental harm including by ensuring that local implementation of the transition is led from the community level.”

    More, Ocasio-Cortez sees this plan is being a vehicle through which social equality might finally realized through the use of reparations to right historical injustices. The final Green New Deal will “mitigate deeply entrenched racial, regional and gender-based inequalities in income and wealth (including, without limitation, ensuring that federal and other investment will be equitably distributed to historically impoverished, low income, deindustrialized or other marginalized communities in such a way that builds wealth and ownership at the community level).”

    And if that weren’t enough to ensure that Democratic Socialism could be fully realized in America, the plan includes failsafe in the form of universal income and Medicare for All: The plan, it says, shall “include additional measures such as basic income programs, universal health care programs and any others as the select committee may deem appropriate to promote economic security, labor market flexibility and entrepreneurism.”

    Ocasio-Cortez clarifies that this plan would not only need to be financed by taxpayers, but also the Federal Reserve and other institutions the government can create. The end of the document contains a Q&A, one of which deals with the plan’s funding: “The Federal Reserve can extend credit to power these projects and investments, new public banks can be created (as in WWII) to extend credit and a combination of various taxation tools (including taxes on carbon and other emissions and progressive wealth taxes) can be employed.”

    Ocasio-Cortez may not be in Congress yet, but she already has a plan to remake the way Americans drive, commute, live, work, and even use the financial system. Let there be little doubt how she aspires to wield power in Washington.



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    Fantastic to see a young woman with such ambition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schifference View Post
    Fantastic to see a young woman with such ambition.
    Maybe it was better when young people just laid around eating chips and playing video games in the basement.
    Do something Danke

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schifference View Post
    Fantastic to see a young woman with such ambition.
    I know psych drugs are bad but this broad is a very strong argument for their use....

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    The deal shall: “ensure a ‘just transition’ for all workers, low-income communities, communities of color, indigenous communities,

    More, Ocasio-Cortez sees this plan is being a vehicle through which social equality might finally realized through the use of reparations to right historical injustices.
    "Nobody is going to seize white people's property without compensation!!!"

    So squawked the Dodos.

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    Just wait 15-20 years when she runs for president.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    "Nobody is going to seize white people's property without compensation!!!"

    So squawked the Dodos.
    "They won't ever try to exterminate us either!!!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    Just wait 15-20 years when she runs for president.
    It will be much sooner I think . All the progessives here will be excited .
    Do something Danke



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    More fundamental hope and change.
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    And Ocasio-Cortez voted for Nancy Pelosi for Speaker today. Didn’t she promise her voters should would not do that?

    Oh yeah, nothing to see here. Move along.
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    "More, Ocasio-Cortez sees this plan is being a vehicle through which social equality might finally realized through the use of reparations to right historical injustices."

    So I get all my taxes back I paid throughout the years?
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    Ron Paul know some weird people...



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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    "More, Ocasio-Cortez sees this plan is being a vehicle through which social equality might finally realized through the use of reparations to right historical injustices."

    So I get all my taxes back I paid throughout the years?
    No, you get to pay money to Oyarde to compensate for the white privilege you have lorded over him for so long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    "More, Ocasio-Cortez sees this plan is being a vehicle through which social equality might finally realized through the use of reparations to right historical injustices."

    So I get all my taxes back I paid throughout the years?
    No , she is going to give them to the Conquistador's .
    Do something Danke

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    And Ocasio-Cortez voted for Nancy Pelosi for Speaker today. Didn’t she promise her voters should would not do that?

    Oh yeah, nothing to see here. Move along.
    Actually, she changed her mind after meeting with Pelosi.

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...=1#post6711839
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    This intellectually stimulating conversation is the reason I keep coming here.

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    Alexandria Occasionally Cognizant

    Alexandria Occasionally Cognizant:

    '' I'm proposing equality for all, no wait, jobs for everyone, no
    , I mean racism must end, ooh yea green house gas for all, uh, wait,
    we need to build crack house communities at the ground level, I mean
    level the grass, the green grass, grass is racist.''

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    ... a rising star


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    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post
    Actually, she changed her mind after meeting with Pelosi.

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...=1#post6711839
    And after her election. Which means she is taking to politics like a fish to water.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stratovarious View Post
    Alexandria Occasionally Cognizant:

    '' I'm proposing equality for all, no wait, jobs for everyone, no
    , I mean racism must end, ooh yea green house gas for all, uh, wait,
    we need to build crack house communities at the ground level, I mean
    level the grass, the green grass, grass is racist.''
    oh boy 2019 is turning into a $#@! show real fast

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    She wants to revive FDR's 70% to 90% tax on the upper brackets on our tax forms? Okay... cool.

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    Quite obviously, Ocasio isn't nearly intelligent enough to come up with a comprehensive plan like a "Green New Deal" on her own. She's a bartender ffs. It's being fed to her to be the mouthpiece for the money powers that want to control the people's perceptions of major monetary changes (and associated necessary social engineering for Agenda 21/2030).

    Remember kiddies, don't be distracted by the latest "shiny toy" personality (Ocasio) that's placed on a big stage, instead always remember that when price increases are being pushed it is a function of the devaluation of the currency. The bankers want to distract from the destruction of the currency, which they control, using politicians and media, which they also control. The FRN currency unit is losing global reserve status and can't be printed into infinity any more, with the price inflation created having been exported to the rest of the world. That means price increases in most goods, particularly commodity based goods. That means higher taxation to soak up the domestic currency printing that can't be exported. That means spending more to get even less. That means a lower standard of living for almost everyone. It's essentially how they try to hide the destruction of the currency under false pretenses. And make people want it.



    (And for god sake, please don't turn RPF into the Ocasio-Cortez Forum where every dumbass thing that falls out of her mouth requires a new thread. I'm sure Shillsmyth and others will try, however.)
    Last edited by devil21; 01-07-2019 at 02:54 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    Quite obviously, Ocasio isn't nearly intelligent enough to come up with a comprehensive plan like a "Green New Deal" on her own. She's a bartender ffs. It's being fed to her to be the mouthpiece for the money powers that want to control the people's perceptions of major monetary changes.

    Remember kiddies, don't be distracted by the latest "shiny toy" personality (Ocasio) that's placed on a big stage, instead always remember that when price increases are being pushed it is a function of the devaluation of the currency. The bankers want to distract from the destruction of the currency, which they control, using politicians and media, which they also control. The FRN currency unit is losing global reserve status and can't be printed into infinity any more, with the price inflation created having been exported to the rest of the world. That means price increases in most goods, particularly commodity based goods. That means higher taxation to soak up the domestic currency printing that can't be exported. That means spending more to get even less. That means a lower standard of living for almost everyone. It's essentially how they try to hide the destruction of the currency under false pretenses. And make people want it.


    (And for god sake, please don't turn RPF into the Ocasio-Cortez Forum where every dumbass thing that falls out of her mouth requires a new thread. I'm sure Shillsmyth and others will try, however.)
    AMEN.
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    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post

    (And for god sake, please don't turn RPF into the Ocasio-Cortez Forum where every dumbass thing that falls out of her mouth requires a new thread. I'm sure Shillsmyth and others will try, however.)
    This was so patently absurd that I just had to share it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    Quite obviously, Ocasio isn't nearly intelligent enough to come up with a comprehensive plan like a "Green New Deal" on her own. She's a bartender ffs. It's being fed to her to be the mouthpiece for the money powers that want to control the people's perceptions of major monetary changes (and associated necessary social engineering for Agenda 21/2030).
    https://dailycaller.com/2018/07/30/s...ocasio-cortez/

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    She's definitely acting as a front for Agenda 21/2030 implementers. She even sets the same 2030 deadline! All the hallmarks of someone that's been groomed, indoctrinated and set up for the position and is now being promoted by the media and fed all the talking points.
    Last edited by devil21; 01-07-2019 at 08:05 PM. Reason: fixed misinterpretation of tod evan's post
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    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    She's definitely acting as a front for Agenda 21/2030 implementers. She even sets the same 2030 deadline! All the hallmarks of someone that's been groomed, indoctrinated and set up for the position and is now being promoted by the media and fed all the talking points.




    Not sure what you mean. There's already a thread about her dancing, among the other "what Alexandria had for lunch" type of threads. Publicizing everything she says and does only helps her.
    Perhaps a thread about her policy plans is a good thing considering we have at least one member who made a thread in support of the "Green New Deal":

    Ocasio-Cortez Full 60 Minutes Interview, in Context

    Started by James_Madison_Lives, Yesterday


    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Yeah, I misinterpreted tod evans post. Fixed it.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    The entire internet is the domain of paid shills and bots. If you don't know this by now....

    Israel, under control of the Crown and, ultimately, the Vatican, own the USA. If you don't know this by now....

    Talk to people about liberty. You won't find it on websites, you won't find it in politicians.

    Visiting the Outer Banks of NC?
    Outer Banks NC Fishing Boat Rentals

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    "The Young Turks" is an inside nod to Sabbateans aka Donmeh.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    The entire internet is the domain of paid shills and bots. If you don't know this by now....

    Israel, under control of the Crown and, ultimately, the Vatican, own the USA. If you don't know this by now....

    Talk to people about liberty. You won't find it on websites, you won't find it in politicians.

    Visiting the Outer Banks of NC?
    Outer Banks NC Fishing Boat Rentals

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    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-...green-new-deal

    Details coming out. As expected, it's basically Agenda 21/2030 under a new name.

    Restricted travel, rebuilding entire cities in stack-n-pack condos, carbon taxes, etc.

    There are some absurd parts like bridges across the oceans, instead of air travel, but those parts are only there so that such extreme items can be later removed to present an appearance of "compromise" result.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    The entire internet is the domain of paid shills and bots. If you don't know this by now....

    Israel, under control of the Crown and, ultimately, the Vatican, own the USA. If you don't know this by now....

    Talk to people about liberty. You won't find it on websites, you won't find it in politicians.

    Visiting the Outer Banks of NC?
    Outer Banks NC Fishing Boat Rentals

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    In the FAQ she said it would take longer than 10 years to get rid of all the farting cows.

    Is she planning to have them all butchered? What would animal rights activists have to say about that?

    The other thing: Does she not know there is no wall around the atmosphere? If we reduce carbon equivalency to 0, that doesn’t mean China, India, and all the other industrial countries will.
    "There are two freedoms - the false, where a man is free to do what he likes; the true, where he is free to do what he ought."~~Charles Kingsley

  34. #30
    Marco Rubio in democrat female form. Let her bull run through the china shop. No amount of misdirection or distraction will be able to compensate for that train wreck. The desperate choosers made a magnificent mistake...

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