St. Louis martial arts studio and pizzeria owner convicted of sex crimes against children

[Swordsmyth]

Brave young women got justice Wednesday as a judge found a former pastor and owner of a south St. Louis martial arts studio and pizzeria guilty of sex crimes. Judge Audrey Fleissig said Loren Copp used five young women, who were minors at the time, for sex and child pornography.
“These are very brave victims. They always are in these types of cases. They’re tough cases but they went in there and testified and the judge believed them and that’s the most important thing," said US Attorney Jeffrey Jensen.
Copp, 49, was accused of producing and possessing child pornography and using interstate facilities to coerce a minor to engage in sexual acts -- nine counts in all. He was convicted on all counts except the use of interstate facilities charge.
“Their testimony was pivotal," Jensen said. "Of course, it’s supported by all of the other evidence but their testimony was extremely important and we’re grateful for them and their bravery.”
Dojo Pizza was a combination restaurant and martial arts studio, located in the Bevo neighborhood, that operated as a non-profit to support free karate classes.
According to investigators, Copp groomed two girls at his business and then sexually abused them multiple times per week. Copp also took pictures of his victims while he raped them. This had been going on since 2009.
Police responded to Dojo Pizza on Morganford Avenue in the fall of 2015 in response to calls Copp was contributing to the delinquency of a minor and endangering the welfare of a child. At the time, Copp told Fox 2 police said his building was not up to code and he had an unlocked handgun which endangered his children's lives.
Dojo Pizza was raided the following month after a third young girl came forward to accuse Copp. Police found child pornography on Copp's computers during the raid.
“People need to understand that the FBI, the St. Louis (Metropolitan) Police Department, and ICE, and our office will pursue them aggressively as long as it takes," Jensen said. "It doesn’t matter how long it takes.”

More at: https://fox2now.com/2018/12/26/dojo-...inst-children/

[Grandmastersexsay]

A martial arts studio that serves pizza should have been a red flag for parents. A good martial art studio will teach students about good nutrition.

[jkr]

one less

[dannno]

First domino.

[Influenza]

why do religious people like to $#@! kids so much?

[AuH20]

why do religious people like to $#@! kids so much?

It's a guise, so you can operate more easily without suspicion.

[pcosmar]

why do religious people like to $#@! kids so much?

I can explain it, but,,,

And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. It is not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their actions.…

[Superfluous Man]

100% of human beings are religious people.

[Zippyjuan]

why do religious people like to $#@! kids so much?

Karate is a religion?

[Influenza]

Karate is a religion?

the guy in question is a former pastor

[Influenza]

100% of human beings are religious people.

no, lol. unless you define religious to mean something that it clearly does not

[Superfluous Man]

no, lol. unless you define religious to mean something that it clearly does not

The only way to disqualify any thinking human being from the category of "religious" would be by defining the word in some special way to exclude them, like by pretending that answering the religious question, "Does God exist?" with a no would somehow be less religious than answering it with a yes.

Here's the first definition of "religion" at dictionary.com:

a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.

I've never met a person who didn't have some such set of beliefs. They may differ as to what those beliefs are. But not in the fact that they all have them.

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

why do religious people like to $#@! kids so much?

Why do you liberals from Democratic Underground like to troll here so much?

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

the guy in question is a former pastor

So your evidence is anecdotal?

The John Jay report that studied pedophilia in the Catholic Church, 1950-2002, found that the percentage of allegations against priests was 4%. Only 6/100 of that 4% were convicted of a crime.

Another report by Michael Seto said that pedophilia in the general population runs 3-5%. The research by Schafer and Englert found that pedophilia was 3.8% among their German participants.


http://www.usccb.org/issues-and-acti...-1950-2002.pdf

https://www.annualreviews.org/doi/ab...alCode=clinpsy

[Zippyjuan]

Why do you liberals from Democratic Underground like to troll here so much?

How are things over at the DU? As slow as they are here?

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

How are things over at the DU? As slow as they are here?

Oh look; it's another flea. Anyway flea boy, I have observed that almost every forum has declined in the past 5-10 years. That's because there are more forums and more social media than ever.

Complaining about declining membership is perennial in every forum I visit.

[RJB]

Oh look; it's another flea. Anyway flea boy, I have observed that almost every forum has declined in the past 5-10 years. That's because there are more forums and more social media than ever.

Complaining about declining membership is perennial in every forum I visit.

They are so persistent they are even annoying each other on this thread.

[oyarde]

So your evidence is anecdotal?

The John Jay report that studied pedophilia in the Catholic Church, 1950-2002, found that the percentage of allegations against priests was 4%. Only 6/100 of that 4% were convicted of a crime.

Another report by Michael Seto said that pedophilia in the general population runs 3-5%. The research by Schafer and Englert found that pedophilia was 3.8% among their German participants.


http://www.usccb.org/issues-and-acti...-1950-2002.pdf

https://www.annualreviews.org/doi/ab...alCode=clinpsy

Any numbers on pizza operators and leftists ?

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

They are so persistent they are even annoying each other on this thread.

I always thought it was funny how another paid flea, PRB, would often argue with ZippyJuan. That was when ZippyJuan had all his green reputation bars and PRB was the highest negged RPF user. PRB was much more creative than Zip, so I always assumed PRB was jealous. But now, ZippyJuan holds the distinction of being the most negged repped RPF user of all-time.

Sometimes I miss my old PRB nemesis. Much more imaginative than ZippyJuan the Dullard.

[Suzanimal]

I always thought it was funny how another paid flea, PRB, would often argue with ZippyJuan. That was when ZippyJuan had all his green reputation bars and PRB was the highest negged RPF user. PRB was much more creative than Zip, so I always assumed PRB was jealous. But now, ZippyJuan holds the distinction of being the most negged repped RPF user of all-time.

Sometimes I miss my old PRB nemesis. Much more imaginative than ZippyJuan the Dullard.

I think RepublicanGuy has him beat if you count reps per post.

[oyarde]

I think RepublicanGuy has him beat if you count reps per post.

I find republicanguy's name funny . I somehow cannot picture him being excited about any republic or republican govt .

[Swordsmyth]

I find republicanguy's name funny . I somehow cannot picture him being excited about any republic or republican govt .

What about a "People's Republic"?

[oyarde]

What about a "People's Republic"?

I think he may be left of the party leadership in china

[Influenza]

The only way to disqualify any thinking human being from the category of "religious" would be by defining the word in some special way to exclude them, like by pretending that answering the religious question, "Does God exist?" with a no would somehow be less religious than answering it with a yes.

Here's the first definition of "religion" at dictionary.com:

"a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs."

I've never met a person who didn't have some such set of beliefs. They may differ as to what those beliefs are. But not in the fact that they all have them.

Why use dictionary.com which contains simplified, more general definitions? Why not use merriam webster, which gives greater detail into the meaning of words and how they are used and understood? Expand below:

 

What differs religious beliefs with other beliefs? Religious beliefs require faith in the complete absence of evidence, while other beliefs are supported by the existing evidence, and the confidence in said beliefs are scaled thusly. There are hundreds of youtube videos addressing this exact topic, but for some reason you people keep trying to make this false equivalence between science and religion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lwX8p8jpzs

Many people have beliefs, ideas, etc about the origin and "purpose" of the universe, but educated people scale their confidence in such beliefs with the existing evidence supporting their hypothesis

[Influenza]

So your evidence is anecdotal?

The John Jay report that studied pedophilia in the Catholic Church, 1950-2002, found that the percentage of allegations against priests was 4%. Only 6/100 of that 4% were convicted of a crime.

Another report by Michael Seto said that pedophilia in the general population runs 3-5%. The research by Schafer and Englert found that pedophilia was 3.8% among their German participants.


http://www.usccb.org/issues-and-acti...-1950-2002.pdf

https://www.annualreviews.org/doi/ab...alCode=clinpsy

You are an absolute retard, and you demonstrate it with every post you make. 4% of priests have been ACCUSED of child molestation, etc. That means they were ACTING on their pedophilic urges. Between 3 and 5% of the general populace are estimated to HAVE pedophilic urges. What percentage have been accused of acting on those urges? I imagine far, far less.

Do you not see that you are comparing two very different things? The numbers you provided do absolutely nothing to defend the catholic church. Hell, the whole world already knows for a fact, that the highest bishops and the pope himself worked to cover up pedophilia within the church as much as they possibly could.

[pcosmar]

Many people have beliefs, ideas, etc about the origin and "purpose" of the universe, but educated people scale their confidence in such beliefs with the existing evidence supporting their hypothesis

But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong. He chose the lowly and despised things of the world, and the things that are not, to nullify the things that are,…

For since in the wisdom of God, the world through its wisdom did not know Him, God was pleased through the foolishness of what was preached to save those who believe.

I find the Blind Faith of atheists to be impressive,, if misguided and very sad.
so surely believing in nothing

[dannno]

Why use dictionary.com which contains simplified, more general definitions? Why not use merriam webster, which gives greater detail into the meaning of words and how they are used and understood? Expand below:

 

What differs religious beliefs with other beliefs? Religious beliefs require faith in the complete absence of evidence, while other beliefs are supported by the existing evidence, and the confidence in said beliefs are scaled thusly. There are hundreds of youtube videos addressing this exact topic, but for some reason you people keep trying to make this false equivalence between science and religion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lwX8p8jpzs

Many people have beliefs, ideas, etc about the origin and "purpose" of the universe, but educated people scale their confidence in such beliefs with the existing evidence supporting their hypothesis

What about the belief in big government without evidence?

[oyarde]

I remember a pizza place on 25th st in columbus I would go to when I was young . There was this hot girl that worked there named Betty Lou .

[pcosmar]

why do religious people like to $#@! kids so much?

What is with Pizza and Pedophiles??

perhaps a better question.


And perhaps Pizzagate is looking less "Fake News".

[Swordsmyth]

You are an absolute retard, and you demonstrate it with every post you make. 4% of priests have been ACCUSED of child molestation, etc. That means they were ACTING on their pedophilic urges. Between 3 and 5% of the general populace are estimated to HAVE pedophilic urges. What percentage have been accused of acting on those urges? I imagine far, far less.

Do you not see that you are comparing two very different things? The numbers you provided do absolutely nothing to defend the catholic church. Hell, the whole world already knows for a fact, that the highest bishops and the pope himself worked to cover up pedophilia within the church as much as they possibly could.

Since when does an accusation prove that anyone actually did what they were accused of?

The Catholic church is rich and powerful, while I have no doubt that some accusations are true it is just as sure that many are false.