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Thread: Trump To End Unconstitutional Syria War. Washington Heads Are Exploding

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Noting that I deliberately included the date for it. Trump was for more involvement before he was for less involvement. In March he said he would reduce troops in Syria. In December he is saying the same thing while nothing changed between the two statements. He says a lot of things he doesn't really do and changes his mind often.
    Mattis didn't leave for no reason.
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    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Dr. Ron Paul. "Stand up for what you believe in, even if you are standing alone." - Sophie Magdalena Scholl
    "War is the health of the State." - Randolph Bourne "Freedom is the answer. ... Now, what's the question?" - Ernie Hancock.

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    RPI: From Tom Luongo: US Defeat in Syria is a Crisis of Empire

    The US lost in Syria. Donald Trump finally had the courage to admit that to the world when he ordered the pull out of all US troops there.

    Syria was to be the sparkling jewel in the Empire of Chaos’ Crown. A masterstroke of realpolitik which would advance every major US, Israeli, and Saudi objective while thoroughly destabilizing the Levant and setting the stage for wiping out Iran and eventually Russia.

    If the Assad government fell Syria would become something worse than Libya. … put advanced US and Israeli military assets on Iran’s doorstep. Carving up Syria, Iraq and possibly even Turkey, once Erdogan was removed … the chaos would ensure a steady stream of refugees into Europe to destabilize it. …

    You can see the remnants of this plan all around you today. … a great deal of it is still on auto-pilot. Angela Merkel and Emmanuel Macron’s tag-team calls for ceding national sovereignty … They can all feel the project slipping away from them. … pushing their legislatures to ignore the people, calling them traitors. Orwell would be proud …

    The generals Trump just fired over his decision are another example. They still believe they can win a balkanization of Syria and Iraq. …

    Israel’s childish and disgusting antics sending missiles at the Damascus airport using civilians as human shields is the most damning.

    If you look around the game board right now all of the people who were the architects of the Syrian war are either out of power or losing it rapidly — Hillary Clinton, Obama, Merkel, Macron, Netanyahu, David Cameron.


    Russian Rescue
    Russia’s entrance into Syria was … a moment the entire geopolitical narrative turned. Someone stood up to the US successfully. Institutional confidence is based on the perception of invulnerability. And Putin moving air assets into Syria to assist the Syrian Arab Army was a declaration that Russia had reached its limit …

    in 2015 the narrative was ISIS just sprang up out of the desert. And they would need a full invasion to defeat. Then the Russians send in some 30 planes and change everything about the conflict within six weeks. All of a sudden ISIS was beatable. All the US could do was attack Putin for going after Al-Qaeda, not ISIS. But, why were we protecting Al-Qaeda? Didn’t they blow up the Twin Towers? … the rubes aren’t buying their lies anymore.

    And the wars need to end.

    As the losses for Al-Qaeda and ISIS mounted thanks to a Russian air campaign they will write military logistics textbooks about …

    The Russian intervention prompted the Saudi King to change the line of succession as it became obvious they would never get their spoils from Syria — a gas pipeline into Turkey. Turkey quit the moment Erdogan realized he was being set up to take the blame for the entire mess. … he and his son were selling the oil ISIS was smuggling in plain sight across the Syrian desert to Turkey. And somehow an all-powerful US military and surveillance system which can read license plates from space couldn’t find convoys of Toyota pickup trucks ferrying tons of oil to Turkey.


    Imperial Retreat
    Once someone stands up to the Empire successfully once it creates the opportunity for someone to do it again. Putin’s interventions in Syria … told the world Russia was no longer afraid of the US’s ability to project power around the world. And that’s what truly changed the narrative. … Trump rightly acknowledging the Empire is bankrupting not only the US but, truly, the rest of the world. His challenge will be surviving the backlash from the entrenched powers in D.C. and Europe. …

    By declaring victory over ISIS and leaving Syria Trump puts a period on the end of a shameful period of US history. … Syria represented the worst kind of imperial over reach. … The appetite for endless war had been spent with Obama’s election …

    This loss will beget others. Unbridled US aggression has successfully been countered with mostly passive resistance. Afghanistan and Ukraine are on deck.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Dr. Ron Paul. "Stand up for what you believe in, even if you are standing alone." - Sophie Magdalena Scholl
    "War is the health of the State." - Randolph Bourne "Freedom is the answer. ... Now, what's the question?" - Ernie Hancock.

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    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Dr. Ron Paul. "Stand up for what you believe in, even if you are standing alone." - Sophie Magdalena Scholl
    "War is the health of the State." - Randolph Bourne "Freedom is the answer. ... Now, what's the question?" - Ernie Hancock.

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