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    What is Love

    Jesus said the law of laws is "Love one another". Are we even close to doing that?

    I grew up during a time when the psy-ops were promoting "free love" which basically meant to most of the young ones being targeted with this free love message is have sex with as many people as you can. Porn came out of the closet at that time and was on display in the mainstream which desensitized the young minds of that era to move away from modesty to everything sexual was in the face of everyone who read a magazine or watched tv. It completely demoralized almost every single human being on the planet.

    During the time of which I speak abortion became a state funded constitutional right. Imagine that all this free love stuff gave women the right to kill their offspring. Is this love?

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    What is Love?

    This question has been the stuff of artists, philosophers, etc. for eons. It's funny how the love question mystifies, but the question of "hate" can somehow be so precisely defined as to be specifically encoded into statutory law.

    One's presumption of the so-called "hate crime" is not even subject to any type of scientific/mathematical measurement. The same prosecutors and other manufacturers of outrage who would likely be so stymied to answer the love question appear to be so sure to know what lies deep in the hearts of total strangers who trigger their pet issues.

    The irony is that love and hate are at polar extremes of the dichotomy; however, the same emotions that leave us so puzzled at one end of the pole are so precise at the other end.
    Last edited by NorthCarolinaLiberty; 12-19-2018 at 01:35 PM.
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    Love is caring about someone else and their needs and wants.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Love to me is; Compassion and empathy for others close to you and even for strangers.

    Unconditional love is a love that never stops--it is spiritual, mental and physical.
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Love is caring about someone else and their needs and wants.
    And putting them before your own .
    Do something Danke

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    Government loves control.



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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    And putting them before your own .
    That is a degree of love.

    We are commanded to love our enemies but unlike our neighbors (defined as those who do good unto us like the good Samaritan) we are not commanded to love them as ourselves.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schifference View Post
    Government loves control.
    But that is the use of "love" as an appetite which I don't think is the definition of love that the OP is asking about.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    Baby don't hurt me.
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge

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    Quote Originally Posted by Working Poor View Post
    Jesus said the law of laws is "Love one another". Are we even close to doing that?
    Nope. I know I'm not.

    I grew up during a time when the psy-ops were promoting "free love" which basically meant to most of the young ones being targeted with this free love message is have sex with as many people as you can. Porn came out of the closet at that time and was on display in the mainstream which desensitized the young minds of that era to move away from modesty to everything sexual was in the face of everyone who read a magazine or watched tv. It completely demoralized almost every single human being on the planet.
    All that's been around forever but I agree that people have become desensitized. It doesn't demoralize you unless you let it, IMO.

    During the time of which I speak abortion became a state funded constitutional right. Imagine that all this free love stuff gave women the right to kill their offspring. Is this love?
    No. New wave feminism has wrought all kinds of evil in this world.
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    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal
    No. New wave feminism has wrought all kinds of evil in this world.
    You may be too young to remember that the feminist movement was right in there with the "free love" movement. Women were given societal permission to be as lose and free with their sexuality as they wanted to. Shortly after that abortion became legal.

    Who ever was behind these movements wanted to get women away from raising a family and into the work force so they would be paying taxes.

    One law is all we need folks "Love one Another". Every law that man makes should be struck down if it does not harmonize with this one law.

    Love is caring, patient, kind, long suffering ect I see nothing about sex or killing in this description of love. We are still suffering as a society from the "if it feels good do it" meme of the 60s.

    Love should be what is making babies but all the other qualities of love need to be in place 1st.

    Real love can make another person see the depths of their lack of love and pour itself into that space.
    Men your seed is life. It is beautiful it is love don't waste it. Same goes for women. Now I have to go and meditate more so that I can better articulate what I want to say. Think about it.

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    Do you want the emotional, or biological answer?



    FJB

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Dannno you so bad....

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    children are evidence of love


    my view
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    why I should worship the state (who apparently is the only party that can possess guns without question).
    The state's only purpose is to kill and control. Why do you worship it? - Sola_Fide

    Baptiste said.
    At which point will Americans realize that creating an unaccountable institution that is able to pass its liability on to tax-payers is immoral and attracts sociopaths?

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    @angelatc wrote in a thread once that:

    The opposite of love is not hate. It is indifference.
    Internet wisdom.

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    In Greek, there are many ways to say the word love, as their are different kinds of love and different meanings to the word.

    If one means the love which is divine, eternal, and life-giving, than it would best be described as eucharistic* self-giving, in the image of the Triune God.


    *eucharistic - grateful, in a spirit of thanksgiving
    Last edited by TER; 12-19-2018 at 11:41 PM.
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    'These things I command you, that you love one another.' - Jesus Christ

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    And unfortunately, the world has forgotten, that it involves the cross, which is the victory of love.
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    'These things I command you, that you love one another.' - Jesus Christ

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    'These things I command you, that you love one another.' - Jesus Christ

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    Quote Originally Posted by TER View Post
    Great thread!
    ''There were four million people in the American Colonies and we had Jefferson and Franklin. Now we have over 300 million and the two top guys are Trump and Biden. What can you draw from this? Darwin was wrong.'' ~ Mort Sahl



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    Love is an emotion that once realized dissipates.

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    Love is a fantasy negated by reality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Working Poor View Post
    You may be too young to remember that the feminist movement was right in there with the "free love" movement. Women were given societal permission to be as lose and free with their sexuality as they wanted to. Shortly after that abortion became legal.

    Who ever was behind these movements wanted to get women away from raising a family and into the work force so they would be paying taxes.

    One law is all we need folks "Love one Another". Every law that man makes should be struck down if it does not harmonize with this one law.

    Love is caring, patient, kind, long suffering ect I see nothing about sex or killing in this description of love. We are still suffering as a society from the "if it feels good do it" meme of the 60s.

    Love should be what is making babies but all the other qualities of love need to be in place 1st.

    Real love can make another person see the depths of their lack of love and pour itself into that space.
    Men your seed is life. It is beautiful it is love don't waste it. Same goes for women. Now I have to go and meditate more so that I can better articulate what I want to say. Think about it.

    I disagree with some of that.

    I don't want any laws based on love. Surely, the government will find a way to $#@! it up and then we'd be rightly screwed. :/ Also, they'd be able to justify anything because it comes from a place of love. I wish I had a dime for every time someone criticized the way I live my life and then said they're doing it for my own good and it comes from a place of love. Usually, they're just uptight $#@!s.


    I think, since people have different needs, they need to be loved differently. Personally, I never wanted someone I had to make whole. If some poor man was expecting me to make him whole, that would just be a fiasco, lol. I'm a bit hyper and scattered and I've always been drawn to men who were calm, smart, patient and firm but kind enough not to be an $#@! when I'm in squirrel mode. Being around people like that helps me stay focused, keeps me out of trouble, and brings out the best in me. Mr A;s like that and I'm a better person with him and I think I help him relax and have fun. Also, he lets me be me. I knew he was the one when we were first dating and I pooped my pants at a restaurant. I left my underwear in the tampon dispenser and joined him at the table. I wasn't going to tell him but I can't keep my mouth shut. I told him and he asked if I wanted to go and I said no, I was hungry and he just smirked. He wasn't disgusted and just let me tell him everything without judgement. Not many men would sit through dinner with a girl who $#@! her pants and then proceed to give them the play by play.

    Yes, the seed is life but sex is for so much more than procreation. It builds intimacy, is healthy, and is just plain fun. I don't consider any seed wasted that made me feel good.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    This intellectually stimulating conversation is the reason I keep coming here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post
    I think, since people have different needs, they need to be loved differently. Personally, I never wanted someone I had to make whole. If some poor man was expecting me to make him whole, that would just be a fiasco, lol. I'm a bit hyper and scattered and I've always been drawn to men who were calm, smart, patient and firm but kind enough not to be an $#@! when I'm in squirrel mode. Being around people like that helps me stay focused, keeps me out of trouble, and brings out the best in me. Mr A;s like that and I'm a better person with him and I think I help him relax and have fun. Also, he lets me be me. I knew he was the one when we were first dating and I pooped my pants at a restaurant. I left my underwear in the tampon dispenser and joined him at the table. I wasn't going to tell him but I can't keep my mouth shut. I told him and he asked if I wanted to go and I said no, I was hungry and he just smirked. He wasn't disgusted and just let me tell him everything without judgement. Not many men would sit through dinner with a girl who $#@! her pants and then proceed to give them the play by play.

    Yes, the seed is life but sex is for so much more than procreation. It builds intimacy, is healthy, and is just plain fun. I don't consider any seed wasted that made me feel good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post
    I disagree with some of that.

    I don't want any laws based on love.
    Whoa there babe. If the only real law is to love one another there would be no need of government or man crafted laws at all. I know that the population in general has no idea of what love is so maybe most people wouldn't want laws based on love because what they think love is is not what love is.

    We are all stuck on concepts our minds are loaded down with subliminal messages. Churches are the worst places for complete and total screwing over of society telling us to obey these laws that are not based in love. Think think think only one law. Why do we need them? All they are doing is enforcing the mind control they are doing very well at almost destroying love.

    I knew he was the one when we were first dating and I pooped my pants at a restaurant.
    That's a charming story. Especially when we get into the the concept of someone accepting us the way we are. I do feel kind of bad for the person who had to empty the sanitary napkin disposal box they too had to accept you the way you were at the time. I hope you gave them some credit too. What would there be to accept if we weren't all full of poop?
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    Love is the greatest human emotion util it fades away.

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