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    WSJ: U.S. Military Preparing for a Full Withdrawal of Its Forces From Northeastern Syria

    Talk is cheep... we'll watch and wait.


    U.S. Military Preparing for a Full Withdrawal of Its Forces From Northeastern Syria
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-mil...ia-11545225641


    By Dion Nissenbaum
    Dec. 19, 2018 8:20 a.m. ET

    WASHINGTON—In an abrupt reversal, the U.S. military is preparing to withdraw its forces from northeastern Syria, people familiar with the matter said Wednesday, a move that throws the American strategy in the Middle East into turmoil.

    U.S. officials began informing partners in northeastern Syria of their plans to begin immediately pulling American forces out of the region where they have been trying to wrap up the campaign against Islamic State, the people said.

    The move follows a call last week between President Trump and Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, who has threatened to launch an assault on America’s Kurdish partners in Syria.



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    Will believe it when I see it.

    Don't need a weather man to know which way the wind blows

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    Ali Özkök
    BREAKING: US Military Preparing for a Full Withdrawal of Its Forces From Northeastern Syria.
    The move follows a call last week between President Trump and Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan.

    Ragıp Soylu‏
    WSJ, CNN and Washington Post say, Trump has ALREADY made a decision to withdraw US troops from Syria.

    Reuters says Trump administration is CONSIDERING to pull the forces.

    Last edited by goldenequity; 12-19-2018 at 08:41 AM.

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    Just heard this on the news. Supposedly a very swift draw down.
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    Ok so here comes the backlash about "the children" and all the good we are doing there, a full scale launch by the almighty MSM overlords riding in on golden chariots to the rescue, on behalf of helping the poor Syrian people, to help spread democracy, to demand that there be no cowering to the evil doing and child murdering Assad, or by extension his best pal Putin, our arch-nemesis.

    And then the corresponding and inevitable backtrack by Trump, because the media he has been calling "fake news" and has been so good at embarrassing, somehow suddenly has a point.

    Or is he finally going to grow balls?

    Inb4 the 5-10 responses to this thread of "not holding my breath".

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    Ragıp Soylu‏@ragipsoylu
    Trump himself confirms the reports that he had taken a decision to withdraw US troops from Syria!


    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...97797929775105


    ----

    ha.. complete hogwash if you follow latest events in Hajin... ISIS still smuggling oil w/ kurd/peshmerga.. etc.
    plus
    'we' didn't defeat ISIS... Iran & Russia & Syria did
    'we' let ISIS flee from Raqqa
    'we' continue to helivac ISIS into Afghanistan and Africom
    'we' bombed Syrian bridges, factories, bakeries, power plants, water plants and empty desert since 2012
    Trump is a used car salesman.
    Last edited by goldenequity; 12-19-2018 at 08:49 AM.

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    This feels like a poll driven trial balloon.
    ClydeCoulter on the Liberty Movement:
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    Loyalists gonna loyal.



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    Quote Originally Posted by goldenequity View Post
    Ragıp Soylu‏@ragipsoylu Trump himself confirms the reports that he had taken a decision to withdraw US troops from Syria! https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...97797929775105 ---- ha.. complete hogwash if you follow latest events in Hajin... ISIS still smuggling oil w/ kurd/peshmerga.. etc. plus 'we' didn't defeat ISIS... Iran & Russia & Syria did 'we' let ISIS flee from Raqqa 'we' continue to helivac ISIS into Afghanistan and Africom 'we' bombed Syrian bridges, factories, bakeries, power plants, water plants and empty desert since 2012 Trump is a used car salesman.
    Related: https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1061028/ISIS-news-latest-Islamic-State-killings-terror-Syria
    The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said on Wednesday that Islamic State militants had executed nearly 700 prisoners in nearly two months in eastern Syria. The UK-based war monitoring group said the prisoners were among 1,350 civilians and fighters that Islamic State had been holding in territory near the Iraqi border.

    The jihadists control a shrinking strip of land east of the Syria's Euphrates River around the town of Hajin, which U.S.-backed forces entered this month. The Syrian Demoratic Forces (SDF), led by the Kurdish YPG militia, has battled Islamic State there for several months with the help of U.S. air power and special forces. SDF commander-in-chief Mazloum Kobani said last week that at least 5,000 IS fighters remain holed up in the enclave, including many foreigners who appear ready to fight to the death. Islamic State's self-proclaimed caliphate has crumbled after different offensives across Iraq and Syria, though its fighters still operate in the desert border region and mount attacks.
    ClydeCoulter on the Liberty Movement:
    Yeah, they'll argue over roads and religion, but there are certain themes that bind, among those are freedom and the search for truth and justice.

    Loyalists gonna loyal.

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    I won't believe it until the troops are on the Mexico border, building the wall.

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    Ragıp Soylu
    US gov seems extremely agitated by Erdogan’s threats against US partner force YPG in Syria.

    They are really panicking, trying to find ways to postpone any kind of op in the area:
    • Offered to deploy Roj-Pesh in the border
    • Already withdrew US soldiers
    • Patriots announced

    SR
    Massive SAA reinforcements heading towards the east and north east
    Massive Russian build up near Al Tanf area
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    Ragıp Soylu
    Trump and Erdogan had a phone call 5 days ago about Syria.

    Various sources I spoke today in Washington think, it had played a role in Trump’s decision for US withdrawal in Syria

    Ali Özkök
    Turkey was seriously threatening the US in Syria. The USA is most likely to withdraw.
    Trump has announced his victory against ISIS on Twitter and scores points in domestic politics. SDF abandoned.
    Russia/SAA take Deir Zor and Raqqa. Turkey the border regions.
    Last edited by goldenequity; 12-19-2018 at 09:35 AM.

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    Ali Özkök
    Breaking: Israel respects U.S. decision to pull out of Syria but has its own concerns, Israel’s UN envoy says.
    (AIPAC going ballistic... hahaha)

    Danny Makki‏
    Wow! "Trump orders immediate and full withdrawal of US troops from #Syria"


    https://twitter.com/Brasco_Aad/statu...08042169167873

    Last edited by goldenequity; 12-19-2018 at 09:42 AM.

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    rumors flying...


    SR‏ @Syrian_SR
    No information about this
    But mostly after the US withdrawal, the Russia/n forces will deploy in the SDF areas followed by the SAA,
    then Kurdish forces will be merged in a form within the SAA, and further Turkish involvement will be blocked.



    Brasco_Aad‏ @Brasco_Aad
    The UK has stated that it will remain in Syria, despite full US withdrawal.


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    Guy Elster‏@guyelster · 43 sek.
    BREAKING Withdrawing US troops from Syria would be 'be a big win for ISIS, Iran, Assad and Russia: Senator Graham

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    https://twitter.com/Brasco_Aad/statu...14595068747776



    zerohedge
    "Saudi Arabia Is Going Bankrupt" Taleb Exclaims After Seeing Kingdom's Latest Budget
    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-...-latest-budget



    https://twitter.com/al_haafez/status...15901489500160
    Last edited by goldenequity; 12-19-2018 at 09:52 AM.

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    Lindsey Graham... blah blah blah

    Don't need a weather man to know which way the wind blows



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    ELINT News‏ @EliNTNews · 4 min.
    BREAKING: White House confirms US Army has already begun its withdrawal from Syria


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    If this turns out to be true, this is very good news.
    ClydeCoulter on the Liberty Movement:
    Yeah, they'll argue over roads and religion, but there are certain themes that bind, among those are freedom and the search for truth and justice.

    Loyalists gonna loyal.

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    fwiw... besides Khashoggi.. and whatever leverage Erodogan had on Saudi/Washington...

    the Turkish offensive in NE Syria was going to be launched today..



    ►this became officially 'public' yesterday...


    some 'other' late breaking background... (before Syrian withdrawal announcement)

    Lee Saks
    U.S. STATE DEPARTMENT NOTIFIES CONGRESS OF POSSIBLE $3.5 BILLION SALE OF PATRIOT AIR AND MISSILE DEFENSE SYSTEMS TO TURKEY -U.S. OFFICIAL: RTRS




    Interfax

    No link between Turkey's purchase of Russian S-400s, plans to buy U.S. Patriots - Peskov
    Kremlin expects Turkey not to give U.S. specialists access to Russian S-400s
    PESKOV ON TURKEY'S POSSIBLE DECISION TO GIVE U.S. SPECIALISTS ACCESS TO S-400: CONTRACT HAS CLAUSE ON NON-DISCLOSURE OF SENSITIVE INFORMATION, MOSCOW TRUSTS ANKARA
    Last edited by goldenequity; 12-19-2018 at 11:43 AM.

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    If true, this will be good news. However I remain very skeptical. Shifting troops from one area to another, conquering country by country, perhaps those troops will be re-deployed to Latin America to further the goal of the Amerikan Empire:

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2018/12/...erican-states/

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    Brasco_Aad
    ‏@Brasco_Aad
    Wow
    ''All US State Department personnel are being evacuated from Syria within 24 hours.'' | US official.
    The CIA is also leaving Syria.


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    I just want objectivity on this forum and will point out flawed sources or points of view at my leisure.

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    Guess it's time for another gas attack.



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    Guy Elster
    BREAKING Time frame for US troop pullout from Syria expected to be between 60 to 100 days: US official to Reuters

    No doubts: US going to hand over Manbij and Tal abyad and Raqqa to Turkey before withdrawing...
    just to make sure the SDF don't hand it over to Assad.
    and
    The Turkish backed rebels will try to capture as much territory as possible before the Syrian army and Russia does.

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    Who could have predicted this would have happened within only 2 years of being in office?
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    ISIL was defeated because of Obama!

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    Golly Gee Goldenequity, when you decide a topic is worthy you create excellent threads.

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    So, I guess the next question is whether the next major action by "ISIS" will happen over there or over here. I doubt the deep state can miss the opportunity that "We have defeated ISIS in Syria" provides.

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