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    Rand Paul opposed to lobbyists spending millions and getting billions

    Remember what Brian said about AIPAC spending millions on lobbying and receiving billions in aid for Israel?

    Well, Rand is considering a law to stop that.

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...gn-governments

    Rand Paul is truly a great senator.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlord View Post
    Remember what Brian said about AIPAC spending millions on lobbying and receiving billions in aid for Israel?

    Well, Rand is considering a law to stop that.

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...gn-governments

    Rand Paul is truly a great senator.
    Pretty sure he voted FOR Citizens United.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Pretty sure he voted FOR Citizens United.
    huh? citizens united was a court decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    huh? citizens united was a court decision.
    My bad. You are correct. He supported it. That's what I meant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    My bad. You are correct. He supported it. That's what I meant.
    But how is it related to the topic in the OP
    Sen. Rand Paul is weighing whether to propose legislation that prohibits lobbyists from advocating for foreign governments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    But how is it related to the topic in the OP
    He supported PACs. As in AIPAC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    He supported PACs. As in AIPAC.
    But citizens united was about limiting speech as in running ads. I don't believe it had anything to do with lobbying efforts which is what he is talking about. Corporations could still lobby, despite the unconstitutional ban in place before citizens united.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    He supported PACs. As in AIPAC.
    He supports Citizen's United, as he should. He doesn't think foreign money is protected by the First Amendment, which is what this bill is about.



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    Rand is wrong here and if it passes it will come back to bite us, we are all Russian bots now.

    If he wants to do something about this he should propose a law against having dual citizens as government workers and a constitutional amendment against dual citizens holding office, maybe even a law prohibiting dual citizenship and requiring people to renounce foreign citizenship in order to keep/get American citizenship.
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    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    huh? citizens united was a court decision.
    Court decision and an organization I believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Rand is wrong here and if it passes it will come back to bite us, we are all Russian bots now.

    If he wants to do something about this he should propose a law against having dual citizens as government workers and a constitutional amendment against dual citizens holding office, maybe even a law prohibiting dual citizenship and requiring people to renounce foreign citizenship in order to keep/get American citizenship.

    I think it would be a lot 'safer' and easier to go the 'no dual citizenship' route, and yes, a flaw that needs fixing.
    How does dual citizenship help America .........rhetorical.



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