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    How Do You Think No Privacy Will Affect YOUR Life?

    No stories to link to here. Just a simple question. How do you think having NO PRIVACY will affect your life?

    Please consider multiple sources such as Govt, Insurance, Employers, Neighbors, Marketers and others I havent listed...
    1776 > 1984

    The FAILURE of the United States Government to operate and maintain an
    Honest Money System , which frees the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators, is the single largest contributing factor to the World's current Economic Crisis.

    The Elimination of Privacy is the Architecture of Genocide

    Belief, Money, and Violence are the three ways all people are controlled

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    Our central bank is not privately owned.



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    Well, good to know that NO $#@!S ARE GIVEN.

    Im sure everyone knows that their privacy is being destroyed to the point where Character Assassination will be exceptionally easy for tptb, increasing your cost of living and reducing your quality of life by marginalizing every excuse all that data provides them. I really hope people dont take such a nonchalant attitude about doing something to protect their privacy. HINT: Facebook's privacy settings wont $#@!ing cut it. The company itself is your greatest threat on their website. After giving them all that data freely (which I think you should be charging tens of thousands of dollars per month), enjoy your enslavement as you allowed them to build a prison around you while being told what was being built. Disobey and they will simply turn off your chip and destroy your character.
    1776 > 1984

    The FAILURE of the United States Government to operate and maintain an
    Honest Money System , which frees the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators, is the single largest contributing factor to the World's current Economic Crisis.

    The Elimination of Privacy is the Architecture of Genocide

    Belief, Money, and Violence are the three ways all people are controlled

    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Our central bank is not privately owned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianTV View Post
    Well, good to know that NO $#@!S ARE GIVEN.

    Im sure everyone knows that their privacy is being destroyed to the point where Character Assassination will be exceptionally easy for tptb, increasing your cost of living and reducing your quality of life by marginalizing every excuse all that data provides them. I really hope people dont take such a nonchalant attitude about doing something to protect their privacy. HINT: Facebook's privacy settings wont $#@!ing cut it. The company itself is your greatest threat on their website. After giving them all that data freely (which I think you should be charging tens of thousands of dollars per month), enjoy your enslavement as you allowed them to build a prison around you while being told what was being built. Disobey and they will simply turn off your chip and destroy your character.
    I think that the idea is simply too horrible to contemplate.

    It's like asking "How will being Damned to Hell affect you?".
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    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

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    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    I'll have to wear a burqa.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianTV View Post
    Well, good to know that NO $#@!S ARE GIVEN.
    Sorry, but without some poll options, I have no way of forming an opinion ...

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    I'm waiting for the social credit ratings like China. Picture people running around and fingering people for any little real or perceived offense. Imagine people tagging others for tailgating, not signalling, jaywalking, using inappropriate words, offensive dress, etc... your life becomes a commodity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauls' Revere View Post
    I'm waiting for the social credit ratings like China. Picture people running around and fingering people for any little real or perceived offense. Imagine people tagging others for tailgating, not signalling, jaywalking, using inappropriate words, offensive dress, etc... your life becomes a commodity.
    People will ding you for nothing just to feel a power trip.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment



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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    People will ding you for nothing just to feel a power trip.
    Precisely.

    Lets pull out our Crystal Balls, give them a good hard rub, and look into the future...

    Everyone is issued a Social Credit Score, just like China. Its a single number that can go up or down, and no other details are given. People are given negative marks on their Social Credit Score (SCS) for actions deemed as "bad" such as smoking or disagreeing with actions taken by the govt or banks. Positive marks are given when a person is basically a brainwashed $#@!ing moron and blindly obedient to all figures of authority.

    If that is our future, and we look at each other and see their face right next to their SCS's, will we judge each other on that score, or will we look beneath the surface and applaud their Patriotism when it is reflected with a Low SCS? We know far too many will become hopelessly dependent on those scores, and be fearful of those with low scores. Why be afraid? If a person with a High SCS associates with person with a Low SCS, then the person with the High SCS will be given Negative Marks, but not the other way around.

    Is this what our future holds for us? We all act like sheep, and attack any sheep that does not behave as part of a flock? Is this not a society that lives in absolute fear of both its Govt and of other People?
    1776 > 1984

    The FAILURE of the United States Government to operate and maintain an
    Honest Money System , which frees the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators, is the single largest contributing factor to the World's current Economic Crisis.

    The Elimination of Privacy is the Architecture of Genocide

    Belief, Money, and Violence are the three ways all people are controlled

    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Our central bank is not privately owned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianTV View Post
    Precisely.

    Lets pull out our Crystal Balls, give them a good hard rub, and look into the future...

    Everyone is issued a Social Credit Score, just like China. Its a single number that can go up or down, and no other details are given. People are given negative marks on their Social Credit Score (SCS) for actions deemed as "bad" such as smoking or disagreeing with actions taken by the govt or banks. Positive marks are given when a person is basically a brainwashed $#@!ing moron and blindly obedient to all figures of authority.

    If that is our future, and we look at each other and see their face right next to their SCS's, will we judge each other on that score, or will we look beneath the surface and applaud their Patriotism when it is reflected with a Low SCS? We know far too many will become hopelessly dependent on those scores, and be fearful of those with low scores. Why be afraid? If a person with a High SCS associates with person with a Low SCS, then the person with the High SCS will be given Negative Marks, but not the other way around.

    Is this what our future holds for us? We all act like sheep, and attack any sheep that does not behave as part of a flock? Is this not a society that lives in absolute fear of both its Govt and of other People?
    Precisely, and most people will have unjustly low scores in spite of all attempts to bootlick the establishment because at least half of everyone will go around negging everyone else for the "fun" of it.
    That will please the government because it will allow them to hand out less benefits so they won't do anything about it.
    Meanwhile anyone who is sufficiently important will be able to violate the rules with impunity because nobody will dare to hit their score for fear of retaliation and because important people will be given recourse to appeal frivolous hits while everyone else either won't even have access to such an appeals system or will never win any appeals.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    If it’s anything like being a parent, you will never visit the toilet alone, and your deepest, darkest secrets will be found and shouted to the person you least wished to know them.
    "There are two freedoms - the false, where a man is free to do what he likes; the true, where he is free to do what he ought."~~Charles Kingsley

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    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    If it’s anything like being a parent, you will never visit the toilet alone, and your deepest, darkest secrets will be found and shouted to the person you least wished to know them.
    Ain't that the truth. When my son was about three, he came to get me off the toilet because his brother was injured and when I jumped up, he saw my pubes, he grinned and asked if I was part wookie. I said, yes.


    I imagine it would look a lot like that Black Mirror episode and I'd probably be in jail because there's no way I could go that long without cussing. As a matter of fact, after one night out I'd be in jail. I start drinking and I want a cigarette and to $#@! talk the government. That's all it would take for someone to destroy me. A few Natty Lights and a shot of Patron.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.
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    This intellectually stimulating conversation is the reason I keep coming here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianTV View Post
    Well, good to know that NO $#@!S ARE GIVEN.

    Im sure everyone knows that their privacy is being destroyed to the point where Character Assassination will be exceptionally easy for tptb, increasing your cost of living and reducing your quality of life by marginalizing every excuse all that data provides them. I really hope people dont take such a nonchalant attitude about doing something to protect their privacy. HINT: Facebook's privacy settings wont $#@!ing cut it. The company itself is your greatest threat on their website. After giving them all that data freely (which I think you should be charging tens of thousands of dollars per month), enjoy your enslavement as you allowed them to build a prison around you while being told what was being built. Disobey and they will simply turn off your chip and destroy your character.
    Watch it or I'll have to ding your social credit score.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    This intellectually stimulating conversation is the reason I keep coming here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post
    Watch it or I'll have to ding your social credit score.
    So we can have matching credit scores? How thoughtful of you!

    ---

    Seriously tho, if you put one foot out of line, you will get fired from your job, denied loans, denied travel, denied access to alcohol (tobacco will be forbidden), denied friends, denied education, and denied anything in life that makes it worth living. They will have the power to control you entirely through your friends and churches and employers and teachers.

    And just to add insult to injury, as always, they will turn it back on you also, "you did this to yourself".
    Last edited by DamianTV; 12-23-2018 at 05:51 PM.
    1776 > 1984

    The FAILURE of the United States Government to operate and maintain an
    Honest Money System , which frees the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators, is the single largest contributing factor to the World's current Economic Crisis.

    The Elimination of Privacy is the Architecture of Genocide

    Belief, Money, and Violence are the three ways all people are controlled

    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Our central bank is not privately owned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianTV View Post
    No stories to link to here. Just a simple question. How do you think having NO PRIVACY will affect your life?

    Please consider multiple sources such as Govt, Insurance, Employers, Neighbors, Marketers and others I havent listed...
    I'll tell ya this-I am deeply saddened to think that my future kiddos are going to live in a dystopian prison planet. I grew up in the rather over-regulated 90s, but it was nothing like this. :'(
    Quote Originally Posted by Torchbearer
    what works can never be discussed online. there is only one language the government understands, and until the people start speaking it by the magazine full... things will remain the same.
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    I was looking at a new project to do a few years ago and thought about an open big brother. With big brother having all the info on us, why not have an open source big brother on everyone and everything? Not just background checks, but include everything - options to tie in video feeds, personal info from others, license plate scanning, etc. It was both interesting and scary. I spent some time deciding if it was both technically feasible and profitable.

    From the tech side it's very doable. There could be some very valid real world use for this tech other than just degrading what little privacy we all have.
    Profitable? Yes, potentially very profitable.

    I met with legal counsel and they didn't see any legal reasons that couldn't be overcome. There was a warning about a lot of lawsuits for a variety of reasons. Not insurmountable.

    And that was as far as I went. There were so many ethical problems that I didn't feel I wanted to do it. Also there were a number of legit personal security issues to consider, this sort of service could lead to cheating husbands / thieves / you name it to shoot you.

    As of yet I haven't seen a one stop open big brother service. That just means everyone is keeping the data as much in house as possible and selling little bits of access for as much profit as possible.

    However it is only time before the average user can pay and get a full background check, daily commute, shopping lists by store, websites you visit, and what porn you prefer. There will probably be a demand for false histories - VPN style services for internet that leaves false trails, shopping services that show you bought only veggies and hides the cookies.

    I don't think I'll care overly much. I'll most likely be using the extra leave false trails as possible, I already use Signal for messaging, and am careful of any laptop with cameras and mics. I'm probably going to be starting a new position in the new year that will demand higher security and that will probably be a good thing.
    Last edited by kpitcher; 01-02-2019 at 02:57 AM.
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