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    Roger Stone believes Donald Trump might not run for a second term

    https://www.nbc-2.com/story/39639188...in-roger-stone

    The longtime close friend to the president also told us he doesn't believe Trump will run for a second term. That is just one of the things he opened up about when we went to Fort Lauderdale to talk to him.

    “I'm not sure he will run again. He ran for president not to be someone but to do something and if at the end of four years he believes he has achieved that I could see him running off into the sunset,” Stone said.




    But when asked if he has concerns the president could be impeached he said yes.




    In fact, he predicts House Democrats will begin that process early next year.






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    Trump will run again, if you don't believe he is sincere about MAGA then he will run for his ego and if you believe that he really wants to MAGA then he knows it will take more than 4 years.
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    If it did that, I might have some more respect for him. He could do a hell of a lot of good if he threw his support behind Rand.


    (lol... I think I probably said the same thing in 2015.)
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    Truthfully I'm more than sick of who thinks what about Trump. He's already shown what he's made of, all the deflecting and speculation is just bull$#@!. It's all there in the open.
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    I'm sure he'll run for a second term. It'll be interesting to see who he throws his support to in 2024.
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    Trump's narcissism means a 2nd term run is a given. This is the same guy that started the re-election campaign immediately after getting into office.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kpitcher View Post
    Trump's narcissism means a 2nd term run is a given. This is the same guy that started the re-election campaign immediately after getting into office.
    His re-election campaign is extremely profitable, and if he doesn't run, he can just pocket the money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    His re-election campaign is extremely profitable, and if he doesn't run, he can just pocket the money.
    Trump businesses overcharged Trump Inauguration Committee to make more money for Trump.

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b0e048ed8fbf0b

    Trump’s Inauguration Paid Trump’s Company — With Ivanka In The Middle

    When it came out this year that President Donald Trump’s inaugural committee raised and spent unprecedented amounts, people wondered where all that money went.

    It turns out one beneficiary was Trump himself.

    The inauguration paid the Trump Organization for rooms, meals and event space at the company’s Washington hotel, according to interviews as well as internal emails and receipts reviewed by WNYC and ProPublica.

    During the planning, Ivanka Trump, the president-elect’s eldest daughter and a senior executive with the Trump Organization, was involved in negotiating the price the hotel charged the 58th Presidential Inaugural Committee for venue rentals. A top inaugural planner emailed Ivanka and others at the company to “express my concern” that the hotel was overcharging for its event spaces, worrying of what would happen “when this is audited.”

    If the Trump hotel charged more than the going rate for the venues, it could violate tax law. The inaugural committee’s payments to the Trump Organization and Ivanka Trump’s role have not been previously reported or disclosed in public filings.

    “The fact that the inaugural committee did business with the Trump Organization raises huge ethical questions about the potential for undue enrichment,” said Marcus Owens, the former head of the division of the Internal Revenue Service that oversees nonprofits.

    Inaugural workers had other misgivings. Rick Gates, then the deputy to the chairman of the inaugural, asked some vendors to take payments directly from donors, rather than through the committee, according to two people with direct knowledge. The vendors felt the request was unusual and concerning, according to these people, who spoke on condition of anonymity because they signed confidentiality agreements. It is not clear whether any vendors took him up on his request.

    The revelations about the inauguration’s finances show how Trump blurred the lines between his political and business lives, as the real estate mogul ascended to the presidency.

    On Thursday, The Wall Street Journal reported that federal prosecutors in New York have opened a criminal investigation into whether the inaugural committee misspent money and whether donors gave in return for political favors, citing people familiar with the matter. In addition, The New York Times reported that prosecutors are examining whether foreigners illegally funnelled money to the inauguration.
    Trump’s 2017 inauguration committee, which was chaired by his friend the businessman Tom Barrack, raised nearly $107 million from donors including the casino magnate Sheldon Adelson and AT&T. The January 2017 festivities cost almost twice President Obama’s 2009 inauguration, previously the most expensive. The nonprofit that planned Trump’s inauguration booked many spaces in the Trump International Hotel, located in the Old Post Office building near the White House, including a ballroom, hotel rooms and work spaces, as well as paying for meals there, according to several people who worked on the inauguration.

    How the inaugural committee managed to spend all the money it raised remains a mystery, nearly two years after the event. While groups that support political candidates or issues must publicly detail their spending, an inaugural committee is required to list only its top five contractors. That leaves about $40 million unaccounted for.
    More at link.

    The committee spent twice as much money as Obama's committee- on far fewer events.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/14/trum...the-start.html

    All told, the 58th Presidential Inaugural Committee, as it was formally known, raised a staggering $107 million, more than double the $53 million record that Obama raised for his 2009 inauguration.

    The committee then spent nearly all of this money, $104 million, on far fewer official events than Obama or Bush had held. In 2017, Trump held only three official inaugural balls. Eight years earlier, Obama had held 10 official balls for his inauguration, while in 2001 Bush held eight official balls for his inauguration.

    Prosecutors are also reportedly probing whether some of the listed donors to the inaugural fund were actually just fronts, or "straw men," for money that was really coming from foreign governments. Foreign nationals and governments are prohibited from donating to presidential inaugural funds, the same way they are prohibited from donating to U.S. political campaigns. The news reports did not identify any of the potential straw men by name.
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 12-15-2018 at 02:45 PM.



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    Besides, a second term means another four years before anyone can indict him.
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