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    House Democrats Plan New Traffic Tax

    House Democrats are planning to put forward a new tax on drivers stuck in traffic, according to Americans For Tax Reform.
    The new tax, to be introduced by incoming House Transportation Chairman Peter DeFazio (D-Ore.), is meant to punish drivers by taxing them at a higher rate when they’re in congested traffic.
    The traffic tax would be part of a new program for “Vehicle Miles Traveled” [VMT] tax that would replace taxes on gas.

    “The only fair way to do VMT is with congestion pricing. You shouldn’t charge a farmer who has to travel 20 miles to the feed store the same per-mile fee as someone who jumps on 205 in Portland and causes a backup,” DeFazio said.

    The system would require installing GPS devices in citizens’ cars and does nothing to actually address the problem of congested traffic.
    From Americans For Tax Reform:
    “To be clear, DeFazio isn’t talking about creating new toll lanes or raising toll prices to reduce highway congestion. He is instead talking about installing a tracking system in your car that would monitor your vehicle’s movement and location at every moment, transmit this information to federal agencies, and then tax you based upon how busy traffic is when you’re driving.”
    “Such a form of congestion pricing is a deeply regressive form of taxation that would be exponentially more detrimental to the working poor who spend a higher percentage of their income commuting to work. DeFazio’s traffic tax would also disproportionally tax suburban and rural drivers who use highways more frequently and commute further to work than individuals in urban areas.”


    More at: https://www.infowars.com/house-democ...w-traffic-tax/

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    What do you know? Another disincentive to work.

    Well, it should free up some highway funds. Congress will have incentive to turn the whole country into a construction zone.

    We all knew they'd find a way to make GPS mandatory, right? I think vintage car enthusiasts will be the most effective lobby against this intrusion.
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    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

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    Just wait , these reprobates are just getting started . " If you drive a car I'll tax the street ......... ' Cause I'm the taxman "
    Do something Danke

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    The system would require installing GPS devices in citizens’ cars
    Ya, no.
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    VMT - GPS
    Finally a way to get big brother in every vehicle in America, under the guise of a new
    fairness program. + they have done the math, obviously this will increase tax
    revenue by billions.
    Liberals ; ''never met a tax they didn't like'' ?

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    Knew that was only a matter of time.

    I can only imagine what the New Bolsheviks in the NH government are going to ram through.

    So is THIS the 6th dimension chess I've heard about?

    Trump has always been a progressive, and he only took on the alt right populist persona in order to energize the Bolsheviks to achieve legislative victories they haven't seen since the 1960s?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Knew that was only a matter of time.

    I can only imagine what the New Bolsheviks in the NH government are going to ram through.

    So is THIS the 6th dimension chess I've heard about?

    Trump has always been a progressive, and he only took on the alt right populist persona in order to energize the Bolsheviks to achieve legislative victories they haven't seen since the 1960s?

    We shall see but even if Trump is working for the enemy he may get the frog to jump out of the pot, we were doomed while the temperature rise was gradual.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

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    So in CA we'll have:

    VMT Tax
    Texting Tax
    Homeless right to shelter

    We're being governed ruled by a geriatric Alzheimer patient/puppet whose strings are being pulled by an elitist oligarchy who believe they can manage the world... imagine the utter maniacal, sociopathic hubris!



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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    We shall see but even if Trump is working for the enemy he may get the frog to jump out of the pot, we were doomed while the temperature rise was gradual.
    I agree, regardless of Trump's true agenda, no one in America
    has ever been able to wake up the masses, point out the
    obvious and inspire us all to rally around the truth;
    .
    We want to preserve our culture
    We don't wish to import mass disease, felons, and anarchists
    We aren't ashamed of our heritage
    We are not guilty of anything
    We want sovereignty
    We need jobs and need to stop exporting prosperity and industry
    We want government out of our lives, Federal Agencies gutted
    We know and agree MMM is collusional and corrupt
    .
    I was a vocal supporter of Trump from 2016 till about jan of 18'
    at this point, I'm still a fan but to a lesser degree.
    Death of TPP , Paris accord, Mandate aspect of Obamacare,
    and general rallying of Nationalism was a good thing and we see
    that 'Nationalism', quickly spreading around the world.
    The disappointments are the un-kept literal as well as the defacto promises;
    .
    Hillary to Prison (which would have eliminated the fake Russia Probe)
    Gutting of the IRS
    Repeal of Obamacare
    I'm also saddened to see Trump constantly bootlick Israel, ignoring war
    crimes and aggression against their neighbors, as well as the
    continuing policy of having our troops dispersed around the world,
    still playing 'World Police'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    What do you know? Another disincentive to work.

    Well, it should free up some highway funds. Congress will have incentive to turn the whole country into a construction zone.

    We all knew they'd find a way to make GPS mandatory, right? I think vintage car enthusiasts will be the most effective lobby against this intrusion.
    Opens up a new market for Faraday cages...
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    In Washington you can see them everywhere: the Parasites and baby Stalins sucking the life out of a once-great nation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stratovarious View Post
    I agree, regardless of Trump's true agenda, no one in America
    has ever been able to wake up the masses, point out the
    obvious and inspire us all to rally around the truth;
    .
    We want to preserve our culture
    We don't wish to import mass disease, felons, and anarchists
    We aren't ashamed of our heritage
    We are not guilty of anything
    We want sovereignty
    We need jobs and need to stop exporting prosperity and industry
    We want government out of our lives, Federal Agencies gutted
    We know and agree MMM is collusional and corrupt
    .
    I was a vocal supporter of Trump from 2016 till about jan of 18'
    at this point, I'm still a fan but to a lesser degree.
    Death of TPP , Paris accord, Mandate aspect of Obamacare,
    and general rallying of Nationalism was a good thing and we see
    that 'Nationalism', quickly spreading around the world.
    The disappointments are the un-kept literal as well as the defacto promises;
    .
    Hillary to Prison (which would have eliminated the fake Russia Probe)
    Gutting of the IRS
    Repeal of Obamacare
    I'm also saddened to see Trump constantly bootlick Israel, ignoring war
    crimes and aggression against their neighbors, as well as the
    continuing policy of having our troops dispersed around the world,
    still playing 'World Police'.
    Pretty accurate but there is some progress on the IRS:

    IRS Enforcement Arm Continues to Shrink

    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Pretty accurate but there is some progress on the IRS:

    IRS Enforcement Arm Continues to Shrink
    Good to know, I had heard something about that (typing one hand few days,apologies...)
    whsat I forgot to mention; promised 'gut irs, gave us taxbreak instead lol...I do like his
    rhetoric still though.
    We need to partially defund some and totally defund other fed agencies and 'Acts' ;

    patriot act
    ndaa
    dhs
    nsa
    tsa

    Nothing will truly change though till we start prosecuting the hideous thugs
    in the upper strata of Oathbreakers; Mueller, Hillary , comey holder, Lynch etc......



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