What will be the fallout from the Cohen conviction?

[Anti Federalist]

Now that there seems to be clear evidence of some sort campaign finance crime having been committed, seemingly at Trump's direction, what will the fallout be?

[enhanced_deficit]

Elsewhere read chatter about another option, something like him giving up his crazy America First ideas and becoming a regular streamlined Prez to fully embeace deep stage policies, wars in Syria/Yemen and other neocons policies abroad and at home and the whole thing goes away.

[spudea]

None

[CCTelander]

The whole Mueller investigation has always struck me as a Richard Nixon redux, the difference being that when Nixon was Watergated by TPTB for going too far off the reservation nobody in the "liberty movement" was foolish enough to claim that it happened because old Tricky Dick was secretly working to advance the cause of liberty or stick up for the "little guy."

[Anti Federalist]

The whole Mueller investigation has always struck me as a Richard Nixon redux, the difference being that when Nixon was Watergated by TPTB for going too far off the reservation nobody in the "liberty movement" was foolish enough to claim that it happened because old Tricky Dick was secretly working to advance the cause of liberty or stick up for the "little guy."

To be fair, Nixon created EPA.

Trump is trying to roll back EPA.

As an example.

But I think he'll resign before 2020.

[specsaregood]

Now that there seems to be clear evidence of some sort campaign finance crime having been committed, seemingly at Trump's direction, what will the fallout be?

I see no reason to believe it was made explicitly at Trumps direction or is even a crime. If anything, I would assume Trump had a "just handle it, don't tell me about it" deal with Cohen. Do you think Benton did his thing in IA at Ron Pauls direction?

[Anti Federalist]

I see no reason to believe it was made explicitly at Trumps direction or is even a crime. If anything, I would assume Trump had a "just handle it, don't tell me about it" deal with Cohen. Do you think Benton did his thing in IA at Ron Pauls direction?

I have no idea what may have transpired between Trump and Cohen.

Maybe I should have phrased it differently.

But the fact is that government can convict a ham sandwich given enough time and resources, so it seems they have reached that point, and I'm wondering what the fallout will be.

[Grandmastersexsay]

I have no idea what may have transpired between Trump and Cohen.

Maybe I should have phrased it differently.

But the fact is that government can convict a ham sandwich given enough time and resources, so it seems they have reached that point, and I'm wondering what the fallout will be.

They couldn't convict John Edwards of a similar charge, and he actually used campaign contributions to do so. Protecting your image is not a campaign expenditure, not even when you are using campaign money.

[oyarde]

I voted for none . Not sure they can prove anything illegal and I can only speculate but if there should be no chance the dem leadership wants trump to resign . The dems would have to then put whatever retard commie candidate they get up against a very polished , professional and presidential Pence and I think they would rather run against crackpot trump .

[shakey1]

I voted for none . Not sure they can prove anything illegal and I can only speculate but if there should be no chance the dem leadership wants trump to resign . The dems would have to then put whatever retard commie candidate they get up against a very polished , professional and presidential Pence and I think they would rather run against crackpot trump .

and then there's that... besides, I'm not so sure his ego would allow a show of resignation.

[nobody's_hero]

He probably won't run for a second term. Hope Rand can start name dropping himself 25 hours a day 8 days a week. If he waits until primary season to start campaigning for 2020 it will be too late.

[Swordsmyth]

The lunatics will try to impeach him for a non-crime but it won't work and he will run and win in 2020.

[Slave Mentality]

Nothing but more political theater, but at least it looks like gridlock for two years. Silver linings and things of that nature.

[Anti Globalist]

Trump will not be impeached, convicted, or resign. He will continue to be president for 6 more years.

[r3volution 3.0]

No fallout

Trump is impeached but not convicted

Trump is impeached and convicted

Trump resigns

None of the above

The House Dems could impeach him next year, of course, but they won't if they have any political sense.

For several years, nothing happens.

But all of this is going to end up in a prosecution after Trump leaves office.

That's the risk you take running for office as a low-level organized crime figure.

Trump reminds me a bit of the Teflon Don, who was ultimately undone for having the hubris to make himself too public.

[dannno]

[enhanced_deficit]

Hopefully fears are exaggerated and democracy will be allowed to continue its course bypassing the swamp lands.

But risks are increasing & GOP-Adelson wing's future is starting to look bit bleak. Respected neoconservative and Democrats funding billionaire turned MAGA top funder Adelson is probably not kicking himslef yet for investing so much money in MAGA's election. But if his term is cut short and net return for Adelson investment is only US embassy move in Israel and MAGA's couple of half-hearted bombing strikes in Syria, were all those millions of dollars spent on MAGA's election worth it for Sheldon "US should drop Atom Bomb on Iran" Adelson?


"The Michael Cohen Bribery Scandal Is Now a Trump Bribery Scandal"

Trump Inauguration Spending Under Criminal Investigation by Federal Prosecutors
Probe looking into whether committee misspent funds and top donors gave money in exchange for access to the administration

Dec. 13, 2018 4:27 p.m. ET
Federal prosecutors in Manhattan are investigating whether President Trump’s 2017 inaugural committee misspent some of the record $107 million it raised from donations, people familiar with the matter said.
The criminal probe by the Manhattan U.S. attorney’s office, which is in its early stages, also is examining whether some of the committee’s top donors gave money in exchange for access to the incoming Trump administration, policy concessions or to influence official administration positions, some of the people said.
Giving money in exchange for political favors could run afoul of federal corruption laws. Diverting funds from the organization, which was registered as a nonprofit, could also violate federal law.
In April raids of Mr. Cohen’s home, office and hotel room, Federal Bureau of Investigation agents obtained a recorded conversation between Mr. Cohen and Stephanie Winston Wolkoff, a former adviser to Melania Trump, who worked on the inaugural events. In the recording, Ms. Wolkoff expressed concern about how the inaugural committee was spending money, according to a person familiar with the Cohen investigation.

[enhanced_deficit]

Media and Cohen seem to be in cohoots are hitting MAGA below the belt now:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fN1CSrY3Vc0