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If true, I actually have something in common with him.
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Once again gets the basic premise wrong. If it's a campaign finance violation, that's a civil penalty, not a felony. And Cohen is a lawyer, I haven't seen anything from him that he told Trump it was against the law, thus Trump is Cohens victim of legal malpractice.
I just want objectivity on this forum and will point out flawed sources or points of view at my leisure.
Originally Posted by spudea on 01/15/24Originally Posted by spudea on 04/20/16Originally Posted by spudea on 05/30/17
Well, John Edwards was charged with a felony for doing the just about the same thing Trump did i.e. using his personal money to cover up an affair which he did not report as a campaign contribution during a political campaign. But Judge Nap who has been very suspect lately ignores this very recent, similar case and continues to talk like the prosecution has something on Trump
For anyone who doesn't know what I am talking about, John Edwards was charged with some sort of felony campaign fiance violation because he paid for the silence of his mistress with his money during his 2008 presidential run. And just like with Trump, the prosecution had a close associates of John Edwards who also had recording of phone conversations talking about the payment to Trump. Long story short, he was acquitted of the charge
So, I don't really care about campaign misdeeds. I just assume they all do it. Any one of them could be prosecuted at any time if the political winds are against them.
That being said, I hope this keeps the government tied up in this stupidity for as long as possible. Beats having them actually do things. The biggest concern I have here is that the Executive is prone to creating "distractions" when things like this come down.
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I think this whole investigation is the distraction and unfortunately for all of us, this distraction is not going to stop them from f**king over the people. The only thing it would do is line the pocket of some establishment lawyers and give the rulers an excuse when to make when things continue to go bad. This is why I want this investigation to stop now, leave Trump alone to work him magic and at the same time deprive him of this reasonable excuse if things continue to go down the drain as I expect it to.
I just want objectivity on this forum and will point out flawed sources or points of view at my leisure.
Originally Posted by spudea on 01/15/24Originally Posted by spudea on 04/20/16Originally Posted by spudea on 05/30/17
So Edwards used campaign donations which I assume is worse than using your personal money and he still got away with it. I think this makes the case against Trump even weaker. You would think a judicial historian like Judge Nap would bring up these points but no, he continues to talk as if Trump is in some type of real trouble.
Discussing another topic but it does show how some campaign finance laws are criminal while others are not. Appears if it was willful then it's an actual crime.
https://billmoyers.com/story/violati...inal-offenses/
While most of campaign finance laws are enforced administratively (when they are bothered to be enforced) by the Federal Election Commission (FEC) with civil fines, the Department of Justice (DOJ) has concurrent criminal jurisdiction over willful violations of the campaign finance laws, including the longstanding prohibitions on federal candidates receiving contributions from foreigners.
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why I should worship the state (who apparently is the only party that can possess guns without question).
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At which point will Americans realize that creating an unaccountable institution that is able to pass its liability on to tax-payers is immoral and attracts sociopaths?
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Um, that seems to be the narrative, but the Edward's case is definitely different.
A federal grand jury charged two-time presidential candidate John Edwards on Friday with soliciting and covering up the secret spending of more than $925,000 to hide his mistress and their baby during the peak of his 2008 campaign for the White House.
“The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner
Yes, the 2 cases are not exactly the same but they are similar enough to draw conclusion from the verdict of the Edwards case but the good Judge don't seem to see it that way.
Also, how about charging the 2 Trump mistresses for possible blackmail. Threatening to tell on someone unless they paid you off is a form of blackmail. Did anyone consider that possibility with this case?
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