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    How Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s "Green New Deal" Might Help Save the Planet

    https://www.gq.com/story/green-new-deal-explainer

    12/6/2018



    It's the latest bold, big-picture progressive policy idea that also fits on a campaign bumper sticker. Here's what it actually entails—and why it might end up helping Democrats win elections in 2020.

    As you may be aware, the planet on which you live has entered a perpetual state of being more or less on fire. And over the next few decades, scientists warn, the planet will somehow become even more on fire, unless we—the United States, sure, but also the other 194 countries in the world, all of whom must constantly renegotiate the precise terms of their ever-more-fragile earthly coexistence—do something drastic. Fast.

    One such proposed intervention is a so-called Green New Deal, championed of late most prominently—but certainly not solely—by congresswoman-elect and living right-wing nightmare Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. "This is going to be the Great Society, the moonshot, the civil rights movement of our generation," she said during a town hall convened by Bernie Sanders on Monday. "That is the scale of the ambition that this movement is going to require."

    What Ocasio-Cortez's version of a Green New Deal is and what it might become are two very different things. The long-term goal is to deliver the comprehensive piece of environmental and economic legislation in American history: an unholy mash-up of Roosevelt's Great Depression-era New Deal, an An Inconvenient Truth fever dream, and the Great Recession stimulus, infused with trillions of federal dollars and unleashed on an unsuspecting, carbon-belching nation. The short-term goal is...to form a congressional committee to study the possibility of doing those things someday. The Green New Deal, in other words, is an idea for an idea, and Ocasio-Cortez and company want to spend the 116th Congress fleshing it out.

    According to that recent terrifying UN report, avoiding the most catastrophic consequences of global warming requires reducing 2010-level greenhouse gas emissions by 45 percent by 2030, and 100 percent by 2050. Ocasio-Cortez's proposal is even more ambitious, aiming for the complete decarbonization of the American economy, including the energy production sector, within 10 years. To that end, she wants a House select committee to study the issue, hear from experts, investigate potential interventions, and then distill their findings into a concrete plan by January 1, 2020. And unlike previous big-picture climate change initiatives that have gone exactly nowhere, this committee would also be required to author an honest-to-God bill—something on which the House and Senate could vote—no more than 90 days after that.

    About that bill, though: the committee wouldn't be responsible for passing it during this session of Congress. (In fact, the Ocasio-Cortez proposal actually prohibits the committee from taking action on this or any other piece of legislation.) This stipulation reflects the committee's exploratory fact-finding mission, as well as the political reality that no matter what the House does, a climate science-denying Republican senate and White House would almost certainly preclude its passage.

    The strategy, instead, is to have a specific, substantive, and empirically-backed proposal on which Democratic candidates could campaign in 2020. (After three years of watching party leadership fail spectacularly to come up with a hashtaggable slogan on par with "Make America Great Again" or "Build That Wall," "Green New Deal" would be, like, eight gigantic steps in the right direction.) And if voters respond by delivering the White House and the Senate to Democrats, the party could waste no time implementing the plan when the new Congress begins in January 2021.

    The Green New Deal includes one other gigantic feature that previous climate change-adjacent initiatives did not: a jobs guarantee. (That's the "New Deal" part of the title.) The committee's mandate requires that the plan—and the legislation—provide for full equality of opportunity, in the form of "a job guarantee program to assure a living wage job to everyone who wants one." It also encourages the committee to incorporate into its recommendations policies like universal basic income and single-payer healthcare, if it finds that they would serve its purpose.

    If the Green New Deal succeeds where its predecessors have failed, this s how it will do so: by framing badly-needed but decidedly unsexy environmental legislation as the biggest, best "jobs bill" imaginable. People may have grown weary of the latest, shrillest warnings about rising sea levels; if you're worried about stagnating wages, the consequences of climate change can feel impossibly distant. But if the task of addressing global warming means that they get a job, and training, and health insurance along the way? Suddenly, everyone has a personal and vested interest in saving the planet.

    A Green New Deal bill could solve one of the most vexing problems that plagues the efforts of climate change activists: Schemes to reduce reliance on fossil fuels inevitably imperil a certain set of jobs, which are backed by powerful labor unions that work to preserve their future. President Trump is physically unable to set foot in Pennsylvania without screaming about "clean coal," an oxymoronic rallying cry embraced by those who depend on the mining industry. By focusing throughout on the legislation's economic impact—and creating new jobs to replace the ones it may kill—the Green New Deal committee might be able to mitigate this concern.

    The second problem the Green New Deal targets is the prevailing conservative argument against global warming legislation that isn't outright science denial: The idea that the problem is simply too complex, and that since no consensus solution exists, it is prudent to sit on our hands and wait for Waterworld to become real life. Having a tangible bill that everyone could debate and judge on the merits would eliminate this cynical appeal to abstraction and/or helplessness. And there's buy-in: More than a dozen Democrats, from elder statesman John Lewis to freshmen representatives Ayanna Pressley and Rashida Tlaib, have already declared their support.

    There is some opposition from within the party, but it basically centers on the possibility that a select committee could undermine the existing Congressional committees that Democrats will soon inherit. "We've got people who are in charge of these committees who are very progressive, and I just don't see the need for the select committee," says Frank Pallone, the incoming chair of the Energy and Commerce Committee. "We can have grand goals," adds Peter DeFazio, who will head the Transportation and Infrastructure Committee, "but let's be realistic about how we get there."

    Pallone and DeFazio boast solid progressive voting records of their own, and there's little reason to doubt that they care about this issue, too. But only in Congress could a group of 435 people entrusted with the fate of this country look at a looming global catastrophe and decide that addressing it isn't worth the trouble of rejiggering entrenched responsibilities. The whole point of select committees is to "examine emerging issues" that "cut across jurisdictional boundaries"; frankly, the fact that no committee has the clear authority to draft a Green New Deal-esque bill sounds like a good argument for creating one.

    Speaking of which: Both Pallone and DeFazio have served in Congress for longer than Ocasio-Cortez has been alive, and despite their best efforts during periods of both Democratic and Republican leadership, the planet's prognosis has failed to improve. These results constitute pretty compelling evidence that it is time for legislators to consider taking a different approach. No one, including Ocasio-Cortez, knows if the plan will yield anything better than the status quo. But it's hard to imagine how it could be worse.



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    https://twitter.com/dmples68_ann/sta...00194085474306


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    No one, including Ocasio-Cortez, knows if the plan will yield anything better than the status quo. But it's hard to imagine how it could be worse
    How is the status quo bad?

    Excluding the chronically addicted or enstupidated, even the most poor have lights, heat and air conditioning at the flip of a switch.

    So much food is grown and easily transported that obesity and not hunger is the chief health concern in the US.

    The nation is net exporter of energy, is the world's largest producer of energy and a gallon of gas costs less than it did in 1965.

    The climate communists said in 2000 that snow would be a thing of the past, as we come off one of the snowiest and coldest Novembers ever recorded.

    Of course, facts don't matter...idiots and the invading migrant mobs will follow this blathering $#@! right over the edge and turn this place into Venezuela overnight.

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    Somebody versed in photoshop needs to isolate those $#@! lips in that clip and set them in a black background...

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    After listening to her for about ten seconds , most would agree not to save the planet .
    Do something Danke

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    Joining Senator Sanders is actress and activist Shailene Woodley, author and founder of 350.org Bill McKibben, CNN host and author Van Jones, Union of Concerned Scientists Director of Climate Science Dr. Brenda Ekwurzel, Congresswoman-Elect Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Earth Guardians Youth Director Xiuhtezcatl Martinez, Scientific Director and CEO of Ecologic Institute Dr. Camilla Bausch, and Dale Ross, mayor of Georgetown, Texas.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=w0IgDgyHEfc
    Last edited by timosman; 12-09-2018 at 05:19 PM.

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    1. The Plan for a Green New Deal (and the draft legislation) shall be developed in order to achieve the following goals, in each case in no longer than 10 years from the start of execution of the Plan:

      • 100% of national power generation from renewable sources;
      • building a national, energy-efficient, “smart” grid;
      • upgrading every residential and industrial building for state-of-the-art energy efficiency, comfort and safety;
      • decarbonizing the manufacturing, agricultural and other industries;
      • decarbonizing, repairing and improving transportation and other infrastructure;
      • funding massive investment in the drawdown and capture of greenhouse gases;
      • making “green” technology, industry, expertise, products and services a major export of the United States, with the aim of becoming the undisputed international leader in helping other countries transition to completely carbon neutral economies and bringing about a global Green New Deal.

    2. The Plan for a Green New Deal (and the draft legislation) shall recognize that a national, industrial, economic mobilization of this scope and scale is a historic opportunity to virtually eliminate poverty in the United States and to make prosperity, wealth and economic security available to everyone participating in the transformation. In furtherance of the foregoing, the Plan (and the draft legislation) shall:

      • provide all members of our society, across all regions and all communities, the opportunity, training and education to be a full and equal participant in the transition, including through a job guarantee program to assure a living wage job to every person who wants one;
      • take into account and be responsive to the historical and present-day experiences of low-income communities, communities of color, indigenous communities, rural and urban communities and the front-line communities most affected by climate change, pollution and other environmental harm;
      • mitigate deeply entrenched racial, regional and gender-based inequalities in income and wealth (including, without limitation, ensuring that federal and other investment will be equitably distributed to historically impoverished, low income, deindustrialized or other marginalized communities);
      • include additional measures such as basic income programs, universal health care programs and any others as the select committee may deem appropriate to promote economic security, labor market flexibility and entrepreneurism; and>
      • deeply involve national and local labor unions to take a leadership role in the process of job training and worker deployment.

    3. The Plan for a Green New Deal (and the draft legislation) shall recognize that innovative public and other financing structures are a crucial component in achieving and furthering the goals and guidelines relating to social, economic, racial, regional and gender-based justice and equality and cooperative and public ownership set forth in paragraphs (2)(A)(i) and (6)(B). The Plan (and the draft legislation) shall, accordingly, ensure that the majority of financing of the Plan shall be accomplished by the federal government, using a combination of the Federal Reserve, a new public bank or system of regional and specialized public banks, public venture funds and such other vehicles or structures that the select committee deems appropriate, in order to ensure that interest and other investment returns generated from public investments made in connection with the Plan will be returned to the treasury, reduce taxpayer burden and allow for more investment.
    https://ocasio2018.com/green-new-deal

    also green party "green new deal"

    http://www.gp.org/gnd_full

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    I can only imagine how many times AOC would have been parodied by SNL if she was a republican.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    I can only imagine how many times AOC would have been parodied by SNL if she was a republican.
    They finally did it - http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...-Ocasio-Cortez

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    As you may be aware, the planet on which you live has entered a perpetual state of being more or less on fire. And over the next few decades, scientists warn, the planet will somehow become even more on fire, unless we—the United States, sure, but also the other 194 countries in the world, all of whom must constantly renegotiate the precise terms of their ever-more-fragile earthly coexistence—do something drastic. Fast.
    Lol.

    According to that recent terrifying UN report...
    OMG!

    ..sit on our hands and wait for Waterworld to become real life...
    Learn to swim, learn to swim!

    Jefferson's Brother: “We’re gonna drown!”
    Spicoli: “Just be glad I’m a great swimmer.”
    Jefferson's Brother: “We’re gonna burn!”
    Spicoli: “Make up your mind, dude, are we gonna burn, or are we gonna drown?”
    Jefferson's Brother “First we’re gonna burn, then we’re gonna drown!”
    Spicoli: “Relax, alright. Ocasio-Cortez has the ultimate set of legislation. She will fix it.”
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    Definitely not a fan of AOC, but to be fair:

    https://www.factcheck.org/2018/09/vi...-cortez-quote/

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    Anybody want to overlay the video with audio of a Hitler speech?
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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
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    Always remember, these people aren't that smart.

    Greenhouse Gas Emissions Far Higher than Projected
    County Misses Its Target By a Whopping 29 Points


    Thursday, December 13, 2018
    by NICK WELSH


    Some very bewildered and exasperated county supervisors spent Tuesday morning trying to wrap their arms around one stubborn, incongruous fact: Greenhouse gas emissions released in unincorporated Santa Barbara County were 14 percent higher in 2016 than they were in 2007. Based on the county’s Energy and Climate Action Plan ​— ​also known as ECAP ​— ​those emissions should have dropped by 15 percent. In other words, the county is 29 percentage points away from where its planning policies say it should be.
    https://www.independent.com/news/201...her-projected/


    Mostly dishonest, with an occasional bent on honesty..

    Fifth District Supervisor Steve Lavagnino ​— ​who represents the Santa Maria area ​— ​was most incredulous. How could a place so famous for its environmental consciousness and regulatory zeal have fallen so far below its goal, he wondered, especially when the state as a whole is hitting its emission reduction marks? “It’s just counter common sense,” he exclaimed. First District Supervisor Das Williams had an idea. “One possible explanation is that we’re poseurs,” he said, “that we talk about it but don’t follow through.”
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