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  • We're about to win

    1 8.33%
  • We're doomed

    3 25.00%
  • We're thinking about it the wrong way

    8 66.67%
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Thread: The Futility Of Politics

  1. #1

    The Futility Of Politics

    Both tribes are utterly useless...

    ...and one ought to hold them both in contempt.

    So, indifference is the appropriate attitude.
    "Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard."

    -H. L. Mencken

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    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  4. #3
    They give out lots of swag.

    ...people get persuaded.
    "Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard."

    -H. L. Mencken

  5. #4
    We may be doomed, but we're also thinking about it the wrong way.
    NeoReactionary. American High Tory.

    The counter-revolution will not be televised.

  6. #5
    The country is doomed.

    If trump really was MAGA, he would effective immediately END the FedDeptEd. It might be slightly financially painful at first, but it would get common core off the backs and hopefully promote individual thinking again. Without ending the FedDeptEd, doom becomes 100% certain no matter what other efforts are attempted.

  7. #6
    “I believe in political solutions to political problems. But man's primary problems aren't political; they're philosophical. Until humans can solve their philosophical problems, they're condemned to solve their political problems over and over and over again. It's a cruel, repetitious bore.”

    ― Tom Robbins, Even Cowgirls Get the Blues
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    This intellectually stimulating conversation is the reason I keep coming here.

  8. #7
    Ever heard of some tribe of people that were discovered that had never encountered anyone outside their circle?

    I looked, and there before me was a pale horse!

    Its rider was named Death, and Hades was following close behind him.

    They were given power over a fourth of the earth to kill by sword,
    famine and plague, and by the wild beasts of the earth.

  9. #8
    ...and one ought to hold them both in contempt.
    It's gonna take more than one.

    Don't need a weather man to know which way the wind blows

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  11. #9
    I was telling my son in college a few weeks ago that a movement with intellectuals that are charismatic and appealing to get elected to senate and congress would be what it would take.

    Get a movement that seeks out the best candidates and get them elected.

    This is not the older folks battle. Change must come from the young.

    The masses are simply delusional and led astray.

  12. #10
    No leader will EVER listen to those they govern unless one of two things happens:

    1 - They RESPECT the people
    2 - They FEAR the people

    If EITHER of those things are true, voting matters. Now, compare them to our current leaders. They neither RESPECT us, nor FEAR us. They are NOT AFRAID of being voted out. And thats exactly what they should be afraid of. If they do not FEAR being voted out, then the people may very well raise arms against those that proclaim to be their leaders. For the leaders that DO RESPECT us, keep it up and maintain our trust. Many Libertarian minded people have already achieved seats in offices. Those are NOT the ones we want to see Justice served upon, but they may very well be caught by angry mobs who the Elite have offended to exceptional extents.
    1776 > 1984

    The FAILURE of the United States Government to operate and maintain an
    Honest Money System , which frees the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators, is the single largest contributing factor to the World's current Economic Crisis.

    The Elimination of Privacy is the Architecture of Genocide

    Belief, Money, and Violence are the three ways all people are controlled

    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Our central bank is not privately owned.

  13. #11
    We all here are so darn close to seeing a classic Senate Impeachment Trial of DJT.
    Only Nancy Pelosi's 77+ years is holding back from setting this fecklessly in motion.

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