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    U.S. Murder Rate for 2018 Is on Track for a Big Drop

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/06/u...-big-drop.html

    If murder falls about 4.5 percent nationally this year, the murder rate of about 5 per 100,000 will roughly be in line with 2009’s rate and half of what it was in 1980, the highest U.S. murder rate on record. The accompanying chart shows what the national murder rate since 1960 would look like with a 4.5 percent drop in 2018.

    Tracking the change in murder nationally is far easier than explaining why it’s happening. There is still no consensus on why murder rose nationally in 2015 and 2016, though various theories have been proposed, including simple randomness. Similarly, a projected drop in murder in 2018 would not have an obvious cause. Employment of smarter technologies, expanded community intervention programs, and even colder weather could help explain year-to-year local changes.

    “Civilizations die from suicide, not by murder.” - Arnold Toynbee



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    millennials are just too lazy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    millennials are just too lazy.
    According to Oyarde they must have learned by watching you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    According to Oyarde they must have learned by watching you.
    LOL, an Injun calling someone else lazy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    LOL, an Injun calling someone else lazy.
    Perhaps he intends it as a compliment?
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    Must be because we have a lower ratio of immigrants to citizens when compared to last year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    U.S. Murder Rate for 2018 Is on Track for a Big Drop

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/06/u...-big-drop.html

    If murder falls about 4.5 percent nationally this year, the murder rate of about 5 per 100,000 will roughly be in line with 2009’s rate and half of what it was in 1980, the highest U.S. murder rate on record. The accompanying chart shows what the national murder rate since 1960 would look like with a 4.5 percent drop in 2018.

    Tracking the change in murder nationally is far easier than explaining why it’s happening. There is still no consensus on why murder rose nationally in 2015 and 2016, though various theories have been proposed, including simple randomness. Similarly, a projected drop in murder in 2018 would not have an obvious cause. Employment of smarter technologies, expanded community intervention programs, and even colder weather could help explain year-to-year local changes.


    As to the bolded part, perhaps this is true for the victim disarming $#@!stains at the NY Times, but for the rest of us it's been quite obvious why murder rates (along with other violent crime rates) have been steadily falling for about 2 decades. As John Lott put it back in the 90s, More Guns, Less Crime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Must be because we have a lower ratio of immigrants to citizens when compared to last year.
    Nope, MORE GUNS=LESS CRIME.
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    The drop in murder rates is because the Trump presidency has inspired everyone to be better people
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    The drop in murder rates is because the Trump presidency has inspired everyone to be better people
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    millennials are just too lazy.
    I bet they do not have many guns . After the food stamps take care of most of the expenses they probably use whats left on video games or hollywood gaying .
    Do something Danke

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    More guns means less crime? Who'da thunk?
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    Calvin Coolidge

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    Our life expectancy is dipping because suicides and drug overdoses are increasing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Must be because we have a lower ratio of immigrants to citizens when compared to last year.



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