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  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    I doubt it's as much about identity theft as it is creating a global credit scoring system.
    Which will then be manipulated to control everyone.
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  3. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Which will then be manipulated to control everyone.
    Exactly.
    * Enforce Border Security – America should be guarding her own borders and enforcing her own laws instead of policing the world and implementing UN mandates.

    * No Amnesty - The Obama Administration’s endorsement of so-called “Comprehensive Immigration Reform,” granting amnesty to millions of illegal immigrants, will only encourage more law-breaking.

    * Abolish the Welfare State – Taxpayers cannot continue to pay the high costs to sustain this powerful incentive for illegal immigration. As Milton Friedman famously said, you can’t have open borders and a welfare state.

    * End Birthright Citizenship – As long as illegal immigrants know their children born here will be granted U.S. citizenship, we’ll never be able to control our immigration problem.




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  5. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Of course it is.

    And everything else that everybody mentioned.

    Now, just what the $#@! is anybody gonna do about it?

    The French people have had enough, they turned out in the streets and raised hell.



    Enough so that the hated fuel tax was rescinded by the Macron government.

    It is beyond time that "we" start doing the same thing and drop any further delusions of "civility".

    This is $#@!ing war, war for survival.

    They want to make it hot for "our" people in their homes, in businesses and public life?

    We need to make ten times hotter for MasterCard's CEO, for Zuckerberg, for Tim Cook, for Sundar Pichai all the rest of the modern day robber barons about unleash hell on earth.

    Bleating platitudes about voting and "free" markets is helpless, hopeless and useless.

    These people and millions more like them, will use the very system we're trying to protect to destroy us, invade us, displace us and exterminate us.

    Wake the $#@! up and fight back or die.

    Those are the only two choices left.
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  6. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by Schifference View Post
    You Will Be Controlled
    Quote Originally Posted by shakey1 View Post
    Resistance is futile.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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  7. #35
    Credit goes to MAGA for setting up the right tone for change and elevating right kind of advisors/business leaders from Bolton to Haily to Pomeo to CIA chief lady to Gates to Adelson to Goldman Sachs leaders. Nobody wants a Police State but in the age of GWOT, Syria/Yemen civil wars and coming Iran war threats, making America safe is POTUS' first priority and beefing up policing tools in the state is big part of it.
    Bill and MAGA have similar views on some things including on a secure Police state for the modern day foreign policy.

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  8. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Letting millions of state loving invaders in won't get you there.
    Our loss of freedom didn't come from "invaders". It's always been an inside job- starting with Hamilton.
    There is no spoon.

  9. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    Our loss of freedom didn't come from "invaders". It's always been an inside job- starting with Hamilton.
    Invaders/excessive legal immigration is one of the weapons the domestic enemies have used and are using.
    The use of foreigners against a rulers own subjects is a very old ruling class tactic.

    Letting them import millions of state loving foreigners will only make it harder to recover any portion of our freedom.
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  10. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Invaders/excessive legal immigration is one of the weapons the domestic enemies have used and are using.
    The use of foreigners against a rulers own subjects is a very old ruling class tactic.

    Letting them import millions of state loving foreigners will only make it harder to recover any portion of our freedom.
    Same thing was said about the Irish, Germans, Italians, Chinese, Japanese & Mexicans.

    Get gov OUT of everything is the answer- not MORE gov to solve the problems it has created.
    There is no spoon.

  11. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    Same thing was said about the Irish, Germans, Italians, Chinese, Japanese & Mexicans.
    And it was true, excessive immigration contributed to the decline of liberty in the past as well as the present.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    Get gov OUT of everything is the answer- not MORE gov to solve the problems it has created.
    You can't get the government out of EVERYTHING, the foreigners who will come for the WEALTH produced by a free society without valuing the liberty will impose a big government on the natives, protecting the rights of the natives from enemies foreign and domestic is the proper role of government.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

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    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

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    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
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  12. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    And it was true, excessive immigration contributed to the decline of liberty in the past as well as the present.


    You can't get the government out of EVERYTHING, the foreigners who will come for the WEALTH produced by a free society without valuing the liberty will impose a big government on the natives, protecting the rights of the natives from enemies foreign and domestic is the proper role of government.
    The countries they are coming from have nothing on the "big government" that's been in place here for a long time. Big government in America preceded Mexican immigration by a long shot. In fact, most of the countries they are coming from do not have big governments at all (authoritarian yes, big not so much) so I don't know where you get the idea that they'll demand big government here. It's not anything they're at all familiar with.
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  14. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    The countries they are coming from have nothing on the "big government" that's been in place here for a long time. Big government in America preceded Mexican immigration by a long shot. In fact, most of the countries they are coming from do not have big governments at all (authoritarian yes, big not so much) so I don't know where you get the idea that they'll demand big government here. It's not anything they're at all familiar with.
    Mexico has been socialist/communist since the 1800's and so have most of the other Latin American countries, the same is true of the Irish, Germans and Italians.

    China and Japan also had extremely authoritarian cultures.
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  15. #42
    This is what grassroots efforts should be working against in this forum together regardless of any differences of issues we all have. I think this is RPF common ground.

    We cannot allow this to come to fruition nor these ideas flourish in the American psyche, rather an concerted effort to meet it with opposition. It should be made known to these pieces of $#@! elites at Microsoft and Mastercard that if they attempt this route then we will will be on them. They should not be allowed to be in public without our views known.

  16. #43
    dupe
    Last edited by kahless; 12-07-2018 at 08:34 PM.

  17. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Mexico has been socialist/communist since the 1800's and so have most of the other Latin American countries, the same is true of the Irish, Germans and Italians.
    Doesn't mean they are big governments, per se, but are rather authoritarian governments. And your assertion that Mexico is socialist/communist is ridiculous.

    China and Japan also had extremely authoritarian cultures.
    And still do. Like I said, their idea of "big government" pales in comparison to the size and scope of our government, which existed long before Mexicans started crossing the border.


    Quote Originally Posted by kahless View Post
    Mastercard CEO

    Ajaypal Singh Banga


    Why am I not surprised.
    That's one of the big ways that globalists are undermining traditional American values. Importing heads of industry from other countries that don't give a lick about the Constitution or American values to implement globalism at the corporate level (see: Silicon Valley). While Swordsmyth is worried about Juan, the roofer, it's Ajaypal, the CEO that's really the concern.
    Last edited by devil21; 12-07-2018 at 08:34 PM.
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  18. #45
    Ajaypal Singh Banga - Mastercard CEO


    Satya Nadella - Microsoft CEO

    Nadella was born in Hyderabad, Telangana, India.
    Why am I not surprised. Absolutely no assimilation into American society before becoming CEO's. Born and raised under belief systems counter to European, Christian and American belief systems, ultimately what made America great. Prime examples against immigration on what has ultimately destroyed what the US once was.

  19. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    Doesn't mean they are big governments, per se, but are rather authoritarian governments. And your assertion that Mexico is socialist/communist is ridiculous.



    And still do. Like I said, their idea of "big government" pales in comparison to the size and scope of our government, which existed long before Mexicans started crossing the border.


    "Socialists and Communists aren't in favor of big government" LOL
    "Authoritarians aren't in favor of big government" LOL

    The only reason the American government has been "bigger" in some ways than other more socialist/communist/authoritarian governments is because America was richer and could "afford" bigger government and as I pointed out it was excessive immigration from such countries that helped get us that bigger government, more of the same won't do anything but make the problem worse.

    Even if there was a real difference between socialist/communist/authoritarian governments and "big" Government the last thing we need is people who will turn our already "big" government more socialist/communist/authoritarian.
    Last edited by Swordsmyth; 12-07-2018 at 08:45 PM.
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  20. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by kahless View Post
    Ajaypal Singh Banga - Mastercard CEO


    Satya Nadella - Microsoft CEO



    Why am I not surprised. Absolutely no assimilation into American society before becoming CEO's. Born and raised under belief systems counter to European, Christian and American belief systems, ultimately what made America great. Prime examples against immigration on what has ultimately destroyed what the US once was.
    Let's import millions more of the people who are accepting the Aadhaar system.
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    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  21. #48
    Look, we all know you just make $#@! up when you don't have a factual argument.

    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post


    "Socialists and Communists are in favor of big government" LOL
    "Authoritarians aren't in favor of big government" LOL
    Authoritarian government does not equal big government. It equals forceful government. Large police state apparatus, yes. Large government overall, not so much. And your assertion about Mexico being socialist/communist since the 1800's is ridiculous beyond argument and has no basis in fact whatsoever.

    The only reason the American government has been "bigger" in some ways than other more socialist/communist/authoritarian governments is because America was richer and could "afford" bigger government and as I pointed out it was excessive immigration from such countries that helped get us that bigger government, more of the same won't do anything but make the problem worse.
    Again, immigrants do not come from countries with big governments. They are introduced to big government when they arrive here and find that they may enjoy the benefits of the big government that already exists, thus expanding the existing big government even further. This is Cloward-Piven 101. You have the order of progression incorrect.

    Even if there was a real difference between socialist/communist/authoritarian governments and "big" Government the last thing we need is people who will turn our already "big" government more socialist/communist/authoritarian.
    I don't disagree. But you were still wrong.
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  23. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    Look, we all know you just make $#@! up when you don't have a factual argument.



    Authoritarian government does not equal big government. It equals forceful government. Large police state apparatus, yes. Large government overall, not so much. And your assertion about Mexico being socialist/communist since the 1800's is ridiculous beyond argument and has no basis in fact whatsoever.



    Again, immigrants do not come from countries with big governments. They are introduced to big government when they arrive here and find that they may enjoy the benefits of the big government that already exists, thus expanding the existing big government even further. This is Cloward-Piven 101. You have the order of progression incorrect.



    I don't disagree. But you were still wrong.
    The Mexican revolutions were all socialist/communist as were the other S. American revolutions and all the European revolutions since the French Revolution.

    Pop Quiz: What country first introduced "Social Security"?
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  24. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    The Mexican revolutions were all socialist/communist as were the other S. American revolutions and all the European revolutions since the French Revolution.
    Not much of a revolution since there's no factual basis of socialism/communism ever being the governing method of Mexico for any impactful length of time and certainly not since the 1800's.

    Pop Quiz: What country first introduced "Social Security"?
    Germany, according to quick search.
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  25. #51
    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    Not much of a revolution since there's no factual basis of socialism/communism ever being the governing method of Mexico for any impactful length of time and certainly not since the 1800's.
    They were too poor and the leaders of the revolutions all shifted over to typical crony/oligarch politics but the propaganda and associated political culture was socialist/communist and they were connected to the socialist/communist movements of the time.
    In any case we didn't have that much Mexican immigration back then but the European countries that did provide most of our immigrants at the time were filled with socialists and communists who launched repeated failed revolutions in the 1800's and many of the losers fled to the US when they failed.


    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    Germany, according to quick search.
    Correct, all of the European countries were much farther down the socialist/communist road than the US since the French Revolution.
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    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
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  26. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    They were too poor and the leaders of the revolutions all shifted over to typical crony/oligarch politics but the propaganda and associated political culture was socialist/communist and they were connected to the socialist/communist movements of the time.
    In any case we didn't have that much Mexican immigration back then but the European countries that did provide most of our immigrants at the time were filled with socialists and communists who launched repeated failed revolutions in the 1800's and many of the losers fled to the US when they failed.
    So just admit that Mexico has not been a socialist/communist country since the 1800's, as you originally stated, and we can move on.


    Correct, all of the European countries were much farther down the socialist/communist road than the US since the French Revolution.
    So you're saying that everyone emigrating from Mexico, Central America, and Europe are all invaders that wish to turn America into the old Soviet Union? That's your position?
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  27. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    So just admit that Mexico has not been a socialist/communist country since the 1800's, as you originally stated, and we can move on.
    Culturally it was and that is what is important since they don't bring their government when they come but they do bring their culture.

    It certainly IS one now and AMLO was voted in to make it even more so.



    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    So you're saying that everyone emigrating from Mexico, Central America, and Europe are all invaders that wish to turn America into the old Soviet Union? That's your position?
    The illegals are invaders, those who come legally are are not but if we let too many of them in they will turn us into the USSR or Zimbabwe or Venezuela.
    The excessive immigration that was allowed in the past DID make us more socialist/communist.

    We have enough of our own communists to deal with, we don't need to let them overwhelm us with foreign reinforcements.
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    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  28. #54
    I think we are getting off topic here. Clearly Mastercard and Microsoft are more of threat to individual liberty than Mexico. Mexico and their representatives are acting within their own best interests. It has not any relevance on this discussion of the absolute less than human animals CEO's of Microsoft and Mastercard.
    Last edited by kahless; 12-07-2018 at 09:27 PM.

  29. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by kahless View Post
    I think we are getting off topic here. Clearly Mastercard and Microsoft are more of threat to individual liberty than Mexico. Mexico and their representatives are acting within their own best interests. It has not relevance on this discussion of the absolute less than human animals CEO's of Microsoft and Mastercard.
    True, but excessive immigration from India does relate.
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    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  30. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Culturally it was and that is what is important since they don't bring their government when they come but they do bring their culture.

    It certainly IS one now and AMLO was voted in to make it even more so.
    So you're just going to keep doubling down on wrong, huh. If by "culturally" you mean small villages of people helping each other survive under poor economic conditions then sure I guess that qualifies. Terrible $#@!, that type of existence is! Can't have any of that "helping each other survive" mess coming here, can we?

    The illegals are invaders, those who come legally are are not but if we let too many of them in they will turn us into the USSR or Zimbabwe or Venezuela.
    The excessive immigration that was allowed in the past DID make us more socialist/communist.
    So you're right back to the notion that it's immigrants that cause big government, not the pre-existing big government expanding due to more immigration? I should also add that it wasn't immigrants that demanded the Social Security program, for example, it was the bankers that controlled the executive branch that demanded it. You always seem to give the bankers a pass and blame the little guy whenever you can.

    We have enough of our own communists to deal with, we don't need to let them overwhelm us with foreign reinforcements.
    I've never heard someone rail against communism as much as you do. Are you sure you're not a Jesuit? Most of your posting habits would make a lot more sense if you are.
    Last edited by devil21; 12-07-2018 at 09:29 PM.
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  32. #57
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    True, but excessive immigration from India does relate.
    In my opinion we need to focus more on defeating them. The CEO's, the billionaire elite and monopolies are clearly a problem that need to be dealt with.

    The news media keeps intentionally focusing Americans on foreign policy like Russia, Syria and Afghanistan. These pieces of garbage however are the true threat and are absolutely the true enemy over any foreign threat.

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