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Thread: Canton Township brothers fined $550,000 for cutting down trees on their own property

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    Canton Township brothers fined $550,000 for cutting down trees on their own property

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    https://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog...-not-your-own/


    CANTON TOWNSHIP, Mich. - Two brothers in Canton Township are fighting heavy fines for removing trees on their own property.

    Matt and Gary Percy didn't get required permits to remove trees from a piece of property that's surrounded by an industrial park. They thought they could use a farming exemption because of how they want to use the land, but a township lawsuit alleges they were wrong.

    "There's an injunction that we cannot touch the property," Matt Percy said. "Yes, it's our property."

    The brothers want to start a Christmas tree farm on the property behind the trucking business they've owned for 30 years off of Belleville Road.

    "It's just been a nightmare for us," Matt Percy said.

    The nightmare is the legal battle that began after they clear-cut the property.

    "There were dead ash trees, cottonwoods and buckthorn and invasive trees -- diseases too," Matt Percy said. "It was almost a benefit to take these down, in that respect."

    The township sent out an arborist, who determined the tree ordinance had been violated. The township said it would settle for $450,000.

    The Percys refused, and now Canton Township is suing.

    "I think it's unjust, unfair, unscientific," Matt Percy said. "I think it is undemocratic in every sense that you own the property, you own the trees, but then you get fined for taking the trees down."

    Township officials said it's not a government overreach. They said it's no different than what any developer had to do, which is make a payment to the township's tree fund for not replacing trees.

    However, the Percys have already planted 1,000 trees, with plans for 1,500 more.

    "We think trees are a big benefit, but for certain ones that (are) invasive, they need to be taken care of," Matt Percy said.

    The Percys' lawyers have to respond to the lawsuit by Friday, but there's a bill in the state Senate that could make the entire case moot. It would basically exempt industrial areas from such tree ordinances.

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    https://www.clickondetroit.com/news/...EAfVUN3l1AdNaw
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    According to government there is no such thing as government over reach.
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    That's interesting. I live right around the block from this. I could practically walk there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krugminator2 View Post
    That's interesting. I live right around the block from this. I could practically walk there.
    You should break in and cut down some more of their trees. They can't fine them if you burgle them...
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    Michigan.. again

    just try to imagine my surprised face

    But hey,, They just passed the very BEST Cannabis Legalization in the country,,, so give them a few years for the increased brain activity to alter the Status Quo.
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    "There's an injunction that we cannot touch the property," Matt Percy said. "Yes, it's our property."
    No, it is not.

    You do not own that.

    None of us do.

    Every one of us just rents it from the local liege-lords, with some of us having greater allowances than others.

    But you don't own $#@!.

    "I think it's unjust, unfair, unscientific," Matt Percy said. "I think it is undemocratic in every sense that you own the property, you own the trees, but then you get fined for taking the trees down."
    No it's not.

    You're just learning the hard way who really owns what.

    Move along now, knave.

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    A senator introduced legislation to stop this. It passed the Michigan Senate so far:

    https://www.freep.com/story/news/loc...Ep8tof02gMXk3I

    Cities complain it strips too much local control since it could eliminate all tree ordinances.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EBounding View Post
    A senator introduced legislation to stop this. Not sure where it stands:

    https://www.freep.com/story/news/loc...Ep8tof02gMXk3I

    Cities complain it strips too much local control.
    The City of Canton Needs some controls apparently... Finding piles of Dead Babies in several locations..

    convinced there are larger problems in Canton.

    https://www.freep.com/story/news/loc...it/1657567002/

    https://www.detroitnews.com/story/ne...ns/2010387002/

    https://www.wlns.com/news/michigan/c...ion/1644161508
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