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Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
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Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
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Chris
"Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon
"...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Chris
"Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon
"...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul
Member when everyone was saying Trump was an agent of Hillary Clinton? Remember that?
Piss on Tom Woods, Trump shill; he thought he understood something, and he almost did: almost.
But now he's just a street whore for the administration.; do some more interviews with Buchanan.
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If Hillary had won, those idiots would be infesting these boards with a bunch of "told you so's"
We now know they would have been wrong, but nothing would convince them of such, because Hillary won, therefore Trump agent of Hillary.
Unacceptable opinion.
Because it was not an opinion, nor was it ever an opinion. It was a straight LIE. And only Trumpo's winning would prove that to all the delusionals, that still haunt this place with "it's all WWE man, they are all in it together secretly, man".
Bull.
T.S. Eliot's The Hollow Men
"One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors." - Plato
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I can't answer for what those members think, I'm not peddling anybody, I'm simply making the point that there is a difference and it's somewhat delusional to think that there is not.
This new mob are not Tip O'Neill democrats nor Bill Clinton democrats. A great many are committed and open communists.
I'm not abandoning that at all. I'm simply focusing on more immediate concerns.No, I do... I said that I couldn't necessarily say just right now... doesn't mean I couldn't say... We can continue to work from the example that Ron gave us... that he continues to give us. Yeah, I generally agree with you that Freedom ISN'T popular, but it's $#@!ing chicken-$#@! to abandon it altogether and throw in with the like of a Trump.
$#@! man, there were some pro-liberty positions each of the presidents in our lifetime have taken, yet we weren't taken in like some around here have been by the current pimp.
Again, I'm not convinced that what I am doing is "throwing in" with Trump.Nor should you, but that doesn't necessitate throwing in with the new-boss-same-as-the-old-boss.
Honestly, the ONLY meaningful difference is that the guy is a d-bag on Twitter and disregards the so-called dignity of the office. That's one of the few things I actually like about him by the way, but it's nowhere near enough to cause me to meaningfully support him (i.e., vote for him or advocate for him publicly).
Fair enough.Interestingly, that phrase refers to the practice of finding true faith in higher power (for these purposes, let's refer to it as a Principle) when all other hope seems to be lost. So I'll kick that right back at you.
Well, imagine my relief, to find out that you are overseeing the quality of libertarian punditry.
Perhaps you could submit your curriculum vitae so that we may judge the accuracy of your opinion of Wood's cleverness.
Start with listing your best selling works on history and economics.
I agree.
For the record, my point isn't that Trump isn't doing some good. We can agree that he is... my problem is with the outright advocacy that is coming from a not small segment of this forum's membership.
Again, I'm confident that we can dig through the last several presidencies and find instances of "some good". Yet, no one legitimately tries to argue that Obama or Bush or Clinton were overall good for the liberty movement. And NO ONE was on this forum legitimately trying to defend everything Obama or Bush did from a liberty-first perspective.
Yet here we are with SEVERAL high-profile members (I'm not lumping you into this group, btw) going to bat, day after day, posting thread after thread doing just that on behalf of Trump...
I do not disagree in the slightest...
Let me put it this way... you seem to be saying that "the enemy of my enemy [Dems-cum-socialist/communists] is my friend [DJT]. I get that, as long as we understand DJT in his proper context.
Me? I don't go in for that... for me, the enemy of my enemy is my friend if he treats me like a friend. If he treats me decent for an hour everyday, but spends the rest of the day robbing me, sending my kids off to war, restricting what I may say, etc. (you get what I'm saying), then that mother fcker is my enemy too.
And I feel like there was a time around here before 2016 when that was just understood around here. We may each have disagreed on this-or-that, but in general we were pulling in the same direction...
As you said, fair enough. Trump should be understood - particularly here at RPF - as he is in reality... not as he is cast by certain members.I'm not abandoning that at all. I'm simply focusing on more immediate concerns.
Again, I'm not convinced that what I am doing is "throwing in" with Trump.
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