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    PayPal Bans YouTube Competitor Bitchute Without Explanation

    Payment processor PayPal has permanently banned video platform BitChute from using its services.
    BitChute, a competitor of Google’s video giant YouTube, released a statement addressing PayPal’s decision to sever ties with the company on Wednesday.
    “A few hours ago BitChute received a notice that our PayPal account has been permanently limited, with immediate effect, and that we will no longer be able to accept or send payments,” the statement reads.
    PAYPAL BANS BITCHUTE @bitchute https://t.co/MPkH4Ejoux pic.twitter.com/uqzmMbH2hd
    — Nick Monroe (@nickmon1112) November 14, 2018
    “BitChute is pro-free expression which is a universal human right. Furthermore, censorship and deplatforming are poor ways to tackle societal problems as they merely create echo chambers that can lead to bigger problems in the long run.”
    “It’s important to platform all ideas, as this exposes them to immediate opposition and allows for a public deconstruction of any flaws they may contain. If you are against bigotry or racism or hateful ideologies, you should be pro-free expression,” the statement concluded.

    More at: https://www.infowars.com/paypal-bans...t-explanation/
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    In before someone claims the feds should enforce anti-trust laws (you know, for liberty)
    "Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard."

    -H. L. Mencken

  4. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    In before someone claims the feds should enforce anti-trust laws (you know, for liberty)
    Sometimes you have to suspend liberty to promote it...

    Gulag Chief:
    "Article 58-1a, twenty five years... What did you get it for?"
    Gulag Prisoner: "For nothing at all."
    Gulag Chief: "You're lying... The sentence for nothing at all is 10 years"



  5. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by brushfire View Post
    Sometimes you have to suspend liberty to promote it...


    I'm sure that will go swimmingly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brushfire View Post
    Sometimes you have to suspend liberty to promote it...

    What? Are you angling for a spot on Sworsmyth's "hit list"?
    Chris

    "Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon

    "...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul

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    Silence the detractors and make your extremist positions "the norm".

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    This is the reason the libertarian movement is pretty much dead right now and why so many Ron Paul people have moved over to Trump. The libertarian response of "just start your own...." has been proven ridiculous. Yeah, you can start your own Youtube, but when you try they'll just revoke your domain name, or cut off your hosting services, or refuse you DDoS protection, and if all that doesn't work they'll just cut off your access to the financial system entirely. Libertarianism doesn't have an answer to a small cabal of people who aren't necessarily motivated by financial considerations controlling all the key choke points of the system.

    The only solution is to either expropriate these people's company's and expel them from our country, or put them in graves. And that requires collective action.

  9. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by RonPaulMall View Post
    This is the reason the libertarian movement is pretty much dead right now and why so many Ron Paul people have moved over to Trump. The libertarian response of "just start your own...." has been proven ridiculous. Yeah, you can start your own Youtube, but when you try they'll just revoke your domain name, or cut off your hosting services, or refuse you DDoS protection, and if all that doesn't work they'll just cut off your access to the financial system entirely. Libertarianism doesn't have an answer to a small cabal of people who aren't necessarily motivated by financial considerations controlling all the key choke points of the system.

    The only solution is to either expropriate these people's company's and expel them from our country, or put them in graves. And that requires collective action.
    There's no reason for libertarians to join in the orchestrated outrage at the fate of the culture-right socialists.

    ...for reasons which are fairly clear:

    The only solution is to either expropriate these people's company's and expel them from our country, or put them in graves. And that requires collective action.
    "Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard."

    -H. L. Mencken



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    Quote Originally Posted by RonPaulMall View Post
    This is the reason the libertarian movement is pretty much dead right now and why so many Ron Paul people have moved over to Trump. The libertarian response of "just start your own...." has been proven ridiculous. Yeah, you can start your own Youtube, but when you try they'll just revoke your domain name, or cut off your hosting services, or refuse you DDoS protection, and if all that doesn't work they'll just cut off your access to the financial system entirely. Libertarianism doesn't have an answer to a small cabal of people who aren't necessarily motivated by financial considerations controlling all the key choke points of the system.

    The only solution is to either expropriate these people's company's and expel them from our country, or put them in graves. And that requires collective action.
    There were a few libertarians back in the day in the late 18 century who actually fought for freedom..

    Then we have the cucks on this forum with their nuts cut off saying we should just sit back and accept the tyranny that has been instituted to silence us.
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    "Sometimes to save Free Speech, you have to kill it".

    November 7, 2018.
    President Trump said on Wednesday that he's open to working across the aisle with Democrats to regulate social media
    In a lengthy press conference a day after the midterm elections that saw the Democrats take control of the House of Representatives, Trump was asked if social media companies were unfairly censoring conservative voices and if he would work with the opposition party to rein in their power.
    "Believe it or not, I'm really one that really likes free speech," Trump told reporters. "A lot of people don't understand that. When you start regulating, a lot of bad things can happen. But I would certainly talk to the Democrats if they want to do that. And I think they do want to do that."




    That said, MAGA supporters/funders are getting bit out of hand lately.


    PayPal billionaire Peter Thiel 'becoming key Donald Trump adviser'
    PayPal founder's employees reportedly refer to him as 'the shadow president'
    Sunday 26 February 2017
    Trump called Peduto, wanted to talk death penalty after synagogue shooting, Peduto says
    Nov 5, 2018
    http://www.post-gazette.com/local/ci...s/201811050141





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    Oct 27, 2018 - Earlier today, a gunman walked into the Tree of Life synagogue in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania and killed eleven people before being apprehended by police. The suspect has since been identified as 46-year-old Robert Bowers, who appears to have had a history of anti-Semitic speech on ...

    Robert Bowers considered Gavin McInnes 'Proud Boys' fellow ...
    Oct 28, 2018 -


    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    PT is a nefarious war mongering globalist lobby tool.

    Look into Palantir.


    Related

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonPaulMall View Post
    This is the reason the libertarian movement is pretty much dead right now and why so many Ron Paul people have moved over to Trump. The libertarian response of "just start your own...." has been proven ridiculous. Yeah, you can start your own Youtube, but when you try they'll just revoke your domain name, or cut off your hosting services, or refuse you DDoS protection, and if all that doesn't work they'll just cut off your access to the financial system entirely. Libertarianism doesn't have an answer to a small cabal of people who aren't necessarily motivated by financial considerations controlling all the key choke points of the system.

    The only solution is to either expropriate these people's company's and expel them from our country, or put them in graves. And that requires collective action.
    Do you think youtube receives any advertising payments through PayPal? The only reason this site would care about being suspended by PayPal is because they relied on donations.

    The free market doesn't guarantee businesses that you like will succeed, it only guarantees profitable businesses will succeed.
    Last edited by Grandmastersexsay; 11-14-2018 at 07:42 PM.

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    This bears repeating (and repeating and repeating):

    Quote Originally Posted by Grandmastersexsay View Post
    The free market doesn't guarantee businesses that you like will succeed, it only guarantees profitable businesses will succeed.
    Quote Originally Posted by Grandmastersexsay View Post
    The free market doesn't guarantee businesses that you like will succeed, it only guarantees profitable businesses will succeed.
    Quote Originally Posted by Grandmastersexsay View Post
    The free market doesn't guarantee businesses that you like will succeed, it only guarantees profitable businesses will succeed.
    Quote Originally Posted by Grandmastersexsay View Post
    The free market doesn't guarantee businesses that you like will succeed, it only guarantees profitable businesses will succeed.
    Quote Originally Posted by Grandmastersexsay View Post
    The free market doesn't guarantee businesses that you like will succeed, it only guarantees profitable businesses will succeed.
    Quote Originally Posted by Grandmastersexsay View Post
    The free market doesn't guarantee businesses that you like will succeed, it only guarantees profitable businesses will succeed.
    Quote Originally Posted by Grandmastersexsay View Post
    The free market doesn't guarantee businesses that you like will succeed, it only guarantees profitable businesses will succeed.
    Quote Originally Posted by Grandmastersexsay View Post
    The free market doesn't guarantee businesses that you like will succeed, it only guarantees profitable businesses will succeed.
    Quote Originally Posted by Grandmastersexsay View Post
    The free market doesn't guarantee businesses that you like will succeed, it only guarantees profitable businesses will succeed.
    Quote Originally Posted by Grandmastersexsay View Post
    The free market doesn't guarantee businesses that you like will succeed, it only guarantees profitable businesses will succeed.
    Quote Originally Posted by Grandmastersexsay View Post
    The free market doesn't guarantee businesses that you like will succeed, it only guarantees profitable businesses will succeed.
    Quote Originally Posted by Grandmastersexsay View Post
    The free market doesn't guarantee businesses that you like will succeed, it only guarantees profitable businesses will succeed.
    /thread
    "Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard."

    -H. L. Mencken

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    This bears repeating (and repeating and repeating):

























    /thread
    So, just how do you justify this breach of contract?
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

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    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

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    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    In before someone claims the feds should enforce anti-trust laws (you know, for liberty)
    Naw, we should only do it if a Monarch thinks its a good idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    So, just how do you justify this breach of contract?
    What breach of contract?

    Post the contractual provision which they violated.
    "Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard."

    -H. L. Mencken

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    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    Naw, we should only do it if a Monarch thinks its a good idea.
    We are witnessing the merger of private ownership and government power, it is nothing less than Neo-feudalism.

    It is no wonder our resident monarchist supports it.

    It will not end with the creation of a libertarian paradise.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment



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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    What breach of contract?
    PayPal's

    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    Post the contractual provision which they violated.
    That is what you need to provide about Bitchute.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    PayPal's

    That is what you need to provide about Bitchute.
    In other words, you have no evidence that PayPal breached its contract; you're just speculating (hoping).

    Since I just posted selections from PayPal's TOS a few days ago in re another "OMG Tyranny!!!" thread, I'm not inclined to do it again.

    Speaking of that thread:

    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    "Well, yea, the free market's great in theory, PayPal should be allowed to deny service to people in theory, but [insert call for state intervention]."
    Please cite said call for state intervention.
    Since she calls this tyranny, and rejects the libertarian argument in favor of discrimination, what else could she want?

    In previous threads, you people have called for the state to penalize Facebook for deleting "conservative" content.

    I see no reason to assume you would draw the line here.
    So you admit you are just making things up to protect the tyrannical left from criticism?
    LOL, let's see what she says.

    If she says that she supports PayPal's right to discriminate, then I'll admit I jumped the gun (not at all unreasonably).

    If she wants the government to "do something" to prevent this "tyranny," then I'll have been correct.
    ...

    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    For now, as it stands, there are Anti-trust laws in place and they need to be used.
    Ding ding ding
    And thoughts (apologies, admissions...) on your mind?
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    -H. L. Mencken

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    In other words, you have no evidence that PayPal breached its contract; you're just speculating (hoping).

    Since I just posted selections from PayPal's TOS a few days ago in re another "OMG Tyranny!!!" thread, I'm not inclined to do it again.

    Speaking of that thread:



    ...



    And thoughts (apologies, admissions...) on your mind?
    PayPal didn't even explain why this time, that means they don't even have a lying excuse.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    PayPal didn't even explain why this time, that means they don't even have a lying excuse.
    That means they decided to let people like you spin their wheels; they'll lose a trial when toupeed pigs fly over the moon.

    ...because their contract gives them total discretion to cancel their relationships.

    On another note, do you think you can manage an acknowledgement about donnay?

    She did in fact want state intervention to solve the "problem," via anti-trust law - no?
    "Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard."

    -H. L. Mencken

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    That means they decided to let people like you spin their wheels.

    On another note, do you think you can manage an acknowledgement about donnay?

    She did in fact want state intervention to solve the "problem," via anti-trust law - no?
    She hadn't when you made your claim up out of thin air.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    She hadn't when you made your claim up out of thin air.
    Which proved to be absolutely correct, correct?
    "Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard."

    -H. L. Mencken

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    @Swordsmyth

    Are you trying to prove my point that you're intellectually dishonest?
    "Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard."

    -H. L. Mencken

  27. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    @Swordsmyth

    Are you trying to prove my point that you're intellectually dishonest?
    How?

    You made wild claims without evidence and then got luck about one poster.
    I don't have to apologize for calling you out about your wild claims when their wasn't any basis for them.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment



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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    How?

    You made wild claims without evidence and then got luck about one poster.
    I don't have to apologize for calling you out about your wild claims when their wasn't any basis for them.
    LOL
    "Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard."

    -H. L. Mencken

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    @Swordsmyth

    Are you trying to prove my point that you're intellectually dishonest?

    That's a tough choice.
    Chris

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    "...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul

  31. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    We are witnessing the merger of private ownership and government power, it is nothing less than Neo-feudalism.
    It is no wonder our resident monarchist supports it.
    It will not end with the creation of a libertarian paradise.

    Do you still have a paypal account?

  32. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    Do you still have a paypal account?
    I never had one.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  33. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I never had one.
    I don't really believe you. But anyways, you should be encouraging others to cancel theirs.

  34. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    I don't really believe you. But anyways, you should be encouraging others to cancel theirs.
    Well you can believe what you want but I never had one and I encourage everyone to cancel theirs.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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