Melania Trump calls for firing of national security aide

[Swordsmyth]

Melania Trump on Tuesday publicly pushed for the dismissal of deputy national security advisor Mira Ricardel -- a rare criticism of a senior administration official by the president's wife.The rebuke -- via a brief statement from the first lady's spokeswoman -- came amid swirling speculation about a possible shake-up of President Donald Trump's cabinet following last week's midterm elections.
"It is the position of the Office of the First Lady that she no longer deserves the honor of serving in this White House," Melania Trump's spokeswoman Stephanie Grisham said in a statement.
The Wall Street Journal claimed Ricardel had been fired and escorted out of the White House, but an administration official denied that to reporters.
Ricardel reportedly battled with the first lady's staff during her trip to Africa last month, and was believed to be the source of negative stories about Melania Trump, according to the Journal, which cited unnamed sources.

More at: https://www.yahoo.com/news/melania-t...210818437.html

Do we know anythnig about Ricardel?

[TheTexan]

I'm not sure why she has her panties in a jealousy bunch, she's not even that pretty

[goldenequity]

Do we know anythnig about Ricardel?

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ce-turns-sours
Bolton likes her.
Bolton hired her in April from the Commerce Department.
She previously worked in the Defense Department under President George W. Bush.

Ricardel is widely disliked among other White House staff.
She’s regarded as inflexible and obsessed with process.

she's toast. buh bye.

[Swordsmyth]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ce-turns-sours
Bolton likes her.
Bolton hired her in April from the Commerce Department.
She previously worked in the Defense Department under President George W. Bush.

Ricardel is widely disliked among other White House staff.
She’s regarded as inflexible and obsessed with process.

she's toast. buh bye.

Thanks, I hope her replacement is better.

I owe you rep.

[Anti Globalist]

Hope the door don't hit her on the way out.

[oyarde]

I'm not sure why she has her panties in a jealousy bunch, she's not even that pretty

Danke can make room for her .

[Swordsmyth]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ce-turns-sours
Bolton likes her.
Bolton hired her in April from the Commerce Department.
She previously worked in the Defense Department under President George W. Bush.

Ricardel is widely disliked among other White House staff.
She’s regarded as inflexible and obsessed with process.

she's toast. buh bye.

The link you posted is to the wrong article, here is the right one: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ould-be-ousted

[specsaregood]

Maybe we should start lobbying Melania to get Trump to do good things.

[Swordsmyth]

Just one day after the office of first lady Melania Trump issued an extraordinary call for her dismissal, deputy national security adviser Mira Ricardel is officially set to exit the White House, the Trump administration has announced.
“Mira Ricardel will continue to support the president as she departs the White House to transition to a new role within the administration," White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders said Wednesday. "The president is grateful for Ms. Ricardel’s continued service to the American people and her steadfast pursuit of his national security priorities.”

More at: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mir...-her-dismissal

[enhanced_deficit]

Maybe we should start lobbying Melania to get Trump to do good things.

Actually other family members can also be effective in getting things done.







Jared Kushner reportedly pressed for Comey's firing as FBI director

• President Trump's son-in-law, Jared Kushner, pressed for the firing of James Comey's as FBI director, The Wall Street Journal reports.
• The firing is reportedly being investigated by Special Counsel Robert Mueller as a possible attempt to obstruct justice.

Published Wed, 22 Nov 2017

[RJ Liberty]

Actually other family members can also be effective in getting things done.







Jared Kushner reportedly pressed for Comey's firing as FBI director

• President Trump's son-in-law, Jared Kushner, pressed for the firing of James Comey's as FBI director, The Wall Street Journal reports.
• The firing is reportedly being investigated by Special Counsel Robert Mueller as a possible attempt to obstruct justice.

Published Wed, 22 Nov 2017

Can you imagine any other First Daughter in history having this much power?

[RonZeplin]

Melania Trump Kneecaps Top Bolton Aide

Written by Daniel McAdams
Tuesday November 13, 2018



Hooray for First Lady Melania Trump! In a refreshingly - and shockingly - frank statement, the relatively quiet First Lady has issued a statement through her spokeswoman today making it clear that top National Security Council aide Mira Ricardel needs to hit the bricks.

Ricardel, Deputy National Security Adviser under John Bolton, is said to have "berated people in meetings, yelled at professional staff, argued with the first lady and spread rumors about [Defense Secretary] Mattis." But denying NSC resources to the First Lady in support of Melania Trump's recent trip to Africa may have been the last straw. That and her tussling with the First Lady's staff over seating assignments on the Africa-bound plane.

According to, Stephanie Grisham, the First Lady's spokeswoman, "It is the position of the Office of the First Lady that she no longer deserves the honor of serving in this White House."

In the Kremlinology of White House power watching, what is most interesting about this dust-up is that Ricardel is firmly in the Bolton wing and has repeatedly clashed with White House Chief of Staff Kelly and Defense Secretary Mattis.

While it is currently unclear whether Ricardel has actually been fired, the reported move by the First Lady marks her most public foray into personnel issues. Is the First Lady looking out for President Trump's flank as second-tier neocon attack dogs nip at his ankles? We can only hope so!

What does that mean for the NSC's top dog? Might the days of John "Regime Change" Bolton be numbered as President Trump's National Security Advisor? We can only hope!

Last month Bolton's chief of staff, Fred Fleitz, unexpectedly resigned his position after just a couple of months on the job. Bolton has described Fleitz as "a longtime friend and adviser." Adding that, "he's been a valuable member of the National Security Council team."

Fleitz claimed that he decided to ditch his powerful position at the right hand of National Security Advisor Bolton because he was promised the top job at the relatively minor neoconservative think tank, Center for Security Policy. Insiders claim Fleitz's hardline neoconservative views, particularly his previously stated position that Islamic Sharia was "creeping" worldwide, had been a political liability to the White House.

Why the move on Ricardel by Melania? The First Lady only became a permanent US resident two years after the neocons pushed President Clinton into an unprovoked attack on her native former Yugoslavia. Is it possible the quiet Melania has retained memories of what monsters they are and is now determined to rid the Trump Administration of those scheming murderers? We shouldn't slip too deeply into this fantasy, but if that is your intent, Madame First Lady, please allow us to provide you with our top ten pink slip recommendations...

[Danke]

Danke can make room for her .

She doesn't look like she is younger than 30.

[Valli6]

Horseface.

I'm not sure why she has her panties in a jealousy bunch, she's not even that pretty

[oyarde]

She doesn't look like she is younger than 30.

When I was young I found that if you give them a good spanking it will relieve the pinched look they can acquire from working and make them appear years younger and improve vigor . Or you could purchase some of my elixir.

[enhanced_deficit]

Melania Trump Kneecaps Top Bolton Aide

Written by Daniel McAdams
Tuesday November 13, 2018



Hooray for First Lady Melania Trump! In a refreshingly - and shockingly - frank statement, the relatively quiet First Lady has issued a statement through her spokeswoman today making it clear that top National Security Council aide Mira Ricardel needs to hit the bricks.

Ricardel, Deputy National Security Adviser under John Bolton, is said to have "berated people in meetings, yelled at professional staff, argued with the first lady and spread rumors about [Defense Secretary] Mattis." But denying NSC resources to the First Lady in support of Melania Trump's recent trip to Africa may have been the last straw. That and her tussling with the First Lady's staff over seating assignments on the Africa-bound plane.

According to, Stephanie Grisham, the First Lady's spokeswoman, "It is the position of the Office of the First Lady that she no longer deserves the honor of serving in this White House."
...

If earlier reports about Bolton camp being favorite of Jarvanka neocon wing of MAGA were factual, did FL just attack neocon wing of MAGA and this is a positive development?
Wonder where Steve Bannon stands on this issue.

Can you imagine any other First Daughter in history having this much power?

To be fair, it's not all glory and she also received horrific and politically incorrect attacks from some media outlets using g-word:

https://www.nydailynews.com/resizer/...5OQJKPTFHQ.jpg

[AuH20]

She is more street smart than Trump is.

[RJ Liberty]

She is more street smart than Trump is.

But she wasn't elected or even appointed to make these decisions.

[Swordsmyth]

But she wasn't elected or even appointed to make these decisions.

And she doesn't get to make them, DJTvsg can listen to her opinion and make a decision based on it if he wants.

[RJ Liberty]

And she doesn't get to make them, DJTvsg can listen to her opinion and make a decision based on it if he wants.

Do you feel it's wise for the President of the United States to have a fashionista for a foreign policy advisor? In what capacity should any First Daughter with a background in fashion and real estate be advising the POTUS on foreign policy?

[Swordsmyth]

Do you feel it's wise for the President of the United States to have a fashionista for a foreign policy advisor? In what capacity should any First Daughter with a background in fashion and real estate be advising the POTUS on foreign policy?

If you think presidential family members never had any influence before you are seriously mistaken, furthermore we are talking about FLOTUS not his daughter and getting rid of a Bolton crony is a good thing so it looks like she is giving him pretty good advice.

[RJ Liberty]

If you think presidential family members never had any influence before you are seriously mistaken, furthermore we are talking about FLOTUS not his daughter and getting rid of a Bolton crony is a good thing so it looks like she is giving him pretty good advice.

BZZZT! Wrong answer! The correct answer is: "It is completely inappropriate for fashion experts to make foreign policy decisions, or serve in any role as advisor to the POTUS on matters of foreign policy." You know this, you just can't admit it.

[Swordsmyth]

BZZZT! Wrong answer! The correct answer is: "It is completely inappropriate for fashion experts to make foreign policy decisions, or serve in any role as advisor to the POTUS on matters of foreign policy." You know this, you just can't admit it.

Maybe it isn't just a foreign policy question and maybe she isn't just a fashion expert.

She said Ricardel couldn't be trusted and she just might know what she is talking about.

[RJ Liberty]

Maybe it isn't just a foreign policy question and maybe she isn't just a fashion expert.

No, Melania is just a fashionista; she's never held any other job. And Ivanka's background as a fashionista and real estate entrepreneur doesn't make her qualified to be opening embassies in Tel Aviv.

She said Ricardel couldn't be trusted and she just might know what she is talking about.

If we were talking strictly about White House staff, you'd have a point. Melania lives there, and needs to feel safe in her home. But we're talking about the Deputy National Security Advisor.

[Swordsmyth]

No, Melania is just a fashionista; she's never held any other job. And Ivanka's background as a fashionista and real estate entrepreneur doesn't make her qualified to be opening embassies in Tel Aviv.



If we were talking strictly about White House staff, you'd have a point. Melania lives there, and needs to feel safe in her home. But we're talking about the Deputy National Security Advisor.

She is a PERSON, opening embassies isn't some holy ordinance, at most it is a diplomatic function and if she has good diplomatic skills there is no reason she can't perform it.

It is even more important to be rid of a Deputy National Security Advisor who can't be trusted than if they were an ordinary WH staff member.

Stop whining, getting rid of a Death Walrus crony is a good thing and you should be thanking FLOTUS for it.

[RJ Liberty]

She is a PERSON, opening embassies isn't some holy ordinance, at most it is a diplomatic function

Which is why we have diplomats.

and if she has good diplomatic skills there is no reason she can't perform it.

You have confused "anyone can have a voice on the Internet" with "anyone with a former real estate license can open a diplomatic office in Tel Aviv".

It is even more important to be rid of a Deputy National Security Advisor who can't be trusted than if they were an ordinary WH staff member.

FLOTUS shouldn't be making that decision. First Daughters shouldn't be making foreign policy decisions. These people have no training for what they are doing. If these were Democrats, you'd completely understand why it's inappropriate to have the leader of the Free World's family making national and foreign policy decisions.

[Swordsmyth]

Which is why we have diplomats.



You have confused "anyone can have a voice on the Internet" with "anyone with a former real estate license can open a diplomatic office in Tel Aviv".

I'm sure Trump had experts to handle the details, she was just there as a pretty face.

FLOTUS shouldn't be making that decision. First Daughters shouldn't be making foreign policy decisions. These people have no training for what they are doing. If these were Democrats, you'd completely understand why it's inappropriate to have the leader of the Free World's family making national and foreign policy decisions.

She DIDN'T make the decision and if it was a Demoncrat in the WH I would have much bigger things to worry about than if he was taking advice on who he could trust from his wife, if a Demoncrat got rid of a bad staffer and replaced her with a better one because his wife advised it I would be glad for a small improvement.

[RJ Liberty]

I'm sure Trump had experts to handle the details, she was just there as a pretty face.

She was there in an official capacity; she is an official advisor to POTUS, as you must know by now.

This "any person can open an embassy" nonsense must stop. Ivanka smiling for photo ops in Jerusalem as 50 Palestinians were killed nearby endangers American lives. These bad policy decisions, made by untrained people completely unqualified to make them, cause blowback.

Last week, I was at the grocery store. The kid cutting the meat was on his first week on the job. He nearly cut his thumb off on the thin meat slicer. He hadn't been trained on the safety procedures, or on the equipment's safety features. Once he's had some training, he'll be great at his job, but he needs training.

In the same way that this kid needs training, national and foreign policy advisors need training and education. Ivanka's credentials as a former real estate agent make her a great resource on NYC-area real estate, and maybe even DC real estate. Melania's and Ivanka's fashion backgrounds make them perfect for deciding what the White House staff should wear. Their roles as advisors should not extend to national security or foreign policy, because they lack the background for such tasks. They have no national security or foreign policy credentials. "Any person" can't just be a national security advisor, because that leads to disaster.

I firmly believe that the POTUS can be any successful businessperson, with the right team of advisors to assist. When that team of advisors consists of fashion people asked to make decisions of international significance, there is a massive potential to make American people less safe.

She DIDN'T make the decision

YES SHE DID: Mira Ricardel to leave White House, after Melania Trump's office called for her dismissal. (Link to Fox News)

if it was a Demoncrat in the WH I would have much bigger things to worry about than if he was taking advice on who he could trust from his wife, if a Demoncrat got rid of a bad staffer and replaced her with a better one because his wife advised it I would be glad for a small improvement.

No one here believes that you wouldn't criticize a Democratic president's decision to remove an official because s/he didn't get along with the President's wife. You spend all day, every day, demonizing the Democrats to the point where you call them the Demoncrats (no skin off my back, as I'm an Independent, but it's been observed frequently). You hate the Dems enough that you'd even accuse long-standing members of this forum, ones in good standing, with good reputations, even ones registered here for over a decade, of being super-seekrit Democrat-lovers, like you're Joseph McCarthy. You haven't been here long enough to get away with that $#@!.

[Swordsmyth]

She was there in an official capacity; she is an official advisor to POTUS, as you must know by now.

This "any person can open an embassy" nonsense must stop. Ivanka smiling for photo ops in Jerusalem as 50 Palestinians were killed nearby endangers American lives. These bad policy decisions, made by untrained people completely unqualified to make them, cause blowback.

Last week, I was at the grocery store. The kid cutting the meat was on his first week on the job. He nearly cut his thumb off on the thin meat slicer. He hadn't been trained on the safety procedures, or on the equipment's safety features. Once he's had some training, he'll be great at his job, but he needs training.

In the same way that this kid needs training, national and foreign policy advisors need training and education. Ivanka's credentials as a former real estate agent make her a great resource on NYC-area real estate, and maybe even DC real estate. Melania's and Ivanka's fashion backgrounds make them perfect for deciding what the White House staff should wear. Their roles as advisors should not extend to national security or foreign policy, because they lack the background for such tasks. They have no national security or foreign policy credentials. "Any person" can't just be a national security advisor, because that leads to disaster.

I firmly believe that the POTUS can be any successful businessperson, with the right team of advisors to assist. When that team of advisors consists of fashion people asked to make decisions of international significance, there is a massive potential to make American people less safe.

The embassy opening wouldn't have gone any different if she wasn't there.

YES SHE DID: Mira Ricardel to leave White House, after Melania Trump's office called for her dismissal. (Link to Fox News)

You don't understand the difference between calling for something and making the decision? Let me explain it:
I and others have called for zippy to be banned, the site staff and/or Bryan made the decision not to ban him so far.

Trump made the decision.

No one here believes that you wouldn't criticize a Democratic president's decision to remove an official because s/he didn't get along with the President's wife. You spend all day, every day, demonizing the Democrats to the point where you call them the Demoncrats (no skin off my back, as I'm an Independent, but it's been observed frequently). You hate the Dems enough that you'd even accuse long-standing members of this forum, ones in good standing, with good reputations, even ones registered here for over a decade, of being super-seekrit Democrat-lovers, like you're Joseph McCarthy. You haven't been here long enough to get away with that $#@!.

Name on time I have attacked the Demoncrats for something so trivial.

[RJ Liberty]

The embassy opening wouldn't have gone any different if she wasn't there.

Yes it would have: there would be no photo ops showing the First Daughter smiling in a glittering gown as Israel bombed the $#@! out of Palestine.

You don't understand the difference between calling for something and making the decision? Let me explain it:
I and others have called for zippy to be banned, the site staff and/or Bryan made the decision not to ban him so far.

Trump made the decision.

Yeah, based on a fashionista's advice. That's the problem. National security policy shouldn't be advised by a model.

Name on time I have attacked the Demoncrats for something so trivial.

As "trivial" as totally unqualified First Family members serving as advisors on events of national security and international diplomacy?