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    Republicans Captured A Higher Percentage Of Hispanic Voters In Midterms Than Trump Did In 2016

    The percentage of Latinos who voted for GOP candidates in the 2018 midterm elections was higher than the percentage of Latinos who voted for Donald Trump in 2016.
    President Trump pulled in a respectable 28 percent of the Hispanic vote in 2016, despite his positions on immigration and a border wall. This year, GOP candidates won 29 percent, according to the Pew Research Center’s exit poll data.
    In U.S. congressional races nationwide, an estimated 69% of Latinos voted for the Democratic candidate and 29% backed the Republican candidate, a more than two-to-one advantage for Democrats, according to National Election Pool exit poll data. These results largely reflect the party affiliation of Latinos. In a Pew Research Center pre-election survey, 62% of Latinos said they identify with or lean toward the Democratic Party compared with 27% who affiliated with the Republican Party. Among other racial and ethnic groups, a lower share of whites (44%) voted for Democrats in congressional races compared with blacks (90%) and Asians (77%). (Exit polls offer the first look at who voted in an election, a portrait that will be refined over time as more data, such as state voter files, become available.)
    While Hispanics made up 11 percent of overall voters on election day, they formed a key electorate in several Senate races, including “Texas (30%), Arizona (23%), Florida (20%) and Nevada (19%),” according to Pew. Republican Ted Cruz managed to win 35 percent of the Latino vote in his Texas race for U.S. Senate, while Governor Greg Abbott won 42 percent in his campaign for re-election.

    In Florida, a high population of Cuban-Americans propelled GOP Candidates Rick Scott and Ron DeSantis to 45 and 44 percent, respectively.

    More at: https://dailycaller.com/2018/11/10/r...ters-midterms/
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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    MAGA's stances like these a factor?
    In any case, above report if non-fakenews negates fakenews media's "Trump is racist" narrative. That is not to say some of Far Right's emerging "Trump is fake racist" narrative should be accepted as divine truth either.





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    No, legal hispanics resent the illegals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    No, legal hispanics resent the illegals.
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    Look for this to continue . Black unemployment is going down , Hispanics want a strong economy . Once the dems select hillary Trump will get record number votes from these demographics .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    No, legal hispanics resent the illegals.
    No. Chicanos perhaps, but otherwise that's not anywhere near the majority opinion.
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    How do things compare to George W. Bush's numbers? I think the Shrub would smack the Trumpster.
    The GOP as a whole may be thought to be pro Bush, so Hispancs are not totally alienated. Possibly...



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    A lot of Latinos here have left communist or socialist countries. A lot more have seen the beginnings of socialism gain a foothold in their countries. Most first or second generation Latino immigrants aren't just conservative, but extremely conservative..... So let's make sure to push them away and run them off

    I was at a service this morning in a Latino baptist church (mostly Mexicans) and even the preacher said several things in favor of Trump from his pulpit. (This is not to say that I shared his sentiment... only it shows that even to the people that have been turned into the hot topic, there's more important things to them than immigration.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by tfurrh View Post
    A lot of Latinos here have left communist or socialist countries. A lot more have seen the beginnings of socialism gain a foothold in their countries. Most first or second generation Latino immigrants aren't just conservative, but extremely conservative..... So let's make sure to push them away and run them off

    I was at a service this morning in a Latino baptist church (mostly Mexicans) and even the preacher said several things in favor of Trump from his pulpit. (This is not to say that I shared his sentiment... only it shows that even to the people that have been turned into the hot topic, there's more important things to them than immigration.)
    Then why do they vote overwhelmingly Demoncrat?

    The numbers may be improving but they are still very bad and I would bet that the improvement comes primarily from multi-generational citizens.

    The "let all my friends invade or I will vote communist" line cuts no mustard with me and if all they cared about was open borders they would vote Libertarian, they vote for insane communists because they believe in communism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Then why do they vote overwhelmingly Demoncrat?

    The numbers may be improving but they are still very bad and I would bet that the improvement comes primarily from multi-generational citizens.

    The "let all my friends invade or I will vote communist" line cuts no mustard with me and if all they cared about was open borders they would vote Libertarian, they vote for insane communists because they believe in communism.
    You can be Hispanic and not first or second generation. Doesn't take long for our public schooling, tv shows, universities, and all the Republican Party's friendliness to program folks
    Last edited by tfurrh; 11-11-2018 at 05:43 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tfurrh View Post
    You can be Hispanic and not first or second generation. Doesn't take long for our public schooling, tv shows, universities, and all the Republican dog whistles, to program folks
    The statistics show that first and second generations voting overwhelmingly Demoncrat, I believe it is those whose families have been here for generations that have a higher rate of voting Republican.

    If you think our culture has a negative effect on people's politics you should think about the effect of growing up in a socialist/communist country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    The statistics show that first and second generations voting overwhelmingly Demoncrat, I believe it is those whose families have been here for generations that have a higher rate of voting Republican
    Honestly it's probably some of both. I was making inferences from all the people I know first hand.... Likely different in the aggregate.

    I was just saying there's lots of potential with
    the Hispanic vote.
    Last edited by tfurrh; 11-11-2018 at 06:03 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tfurrh View Post
    A lot of Latinos here have left communist or socialist countries. A lot more have seen the beginnings of socialism gain a foothold in their countries. Most first or second generation Latino immigrants aren't just conservative, but extremely conservative..... So let's make sure to push them away and run them off

    I was at a service this morning in a Latino baptist church (mostly Mexicans) and even the preacher said several things in favor of Trump from his pulpit. (This is not to say that I shared his sentiment... only it shows that even to the people that have been turned into the hot topic, there's more important things to them than immigration.)
    My experience, as well. Most of the Hispanics I know are more hard-working & conservative than others I know who consider themselves "conservative".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    No, legal hispanics resent the illegals.
    I depends on where the illegals are from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Then why do they vote overwhelmingly Demoncrat?

    The numbers may be improving but they are still very bad and I would bet that the improvement comes primarily from multi-generational citizens.

    The "let all my friends invade or I will vote communist" line cuts no mustard with me and if all they cared about was open borders they would vote Libertarian, they vote for insane communists because they believe in communism.
    Marie Love, republican congresswoman and decedent from Haitian immigrants, just lost her re-election bid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Marie Love, republican congresswoman and decedent from Haitian immigrants, just lost her re-election bid.
    And?

    We know that some are Republicans, the problem is that most are not and if they are allowed to come in unlimited numbers we will become North Venezuela.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    And?

    We know that some are Republicans, the problem is that most are not and if they are allowed to come in unlimited numbers we will become North Venezuela.
    We will become Zimbabwe by 2010 if things continue!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    My experience, as well. Most of the Hispanics I know are more hard-working & conservative than others I know who consider themselves "conservative".
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Since illegal immigirants can't vote and Hispanics are the least likely group to turn out and vote- (Hispanics are about 17% of the US population yet were less than ten percent of all voters in 2016)- which group has actually been voting for bigger government? How did we get to where we are now? Whites of European descent. Let's kick them out and ban more from coming.

    Is it the Democrat's fault? Have the Republicans who rule the Presidency and both houses of Congress been reducing that spending?

    Also note that most immigration now is from Asia- not Latin America.



    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 11-12-2018 at 03:30 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Since illegal immigirants can't vote
    Fake news.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    And?

    We know that some are Republicans, the problem is that most are not and if they are allowed to come in unlimited numbers we will become North Venezuela.
    We need to invade them ASAP to ensure that never happens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Are the Trump-voting 29% part of the smaller government column or the larger government column?
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Pinochet is the model
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Are the Trump-voting 29% part of the smaller government column or the larger government column?
    Smart money is on "smaller government" - why? - because compared to Hillary, Trump's ideal government is as tiny as his hands.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Since illegal immigirants can't vote
    They do.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    and Hispanicsare the least likely group to turn out and vote- (Hispanics are about 17% of the US population yet were less than ten percent of all voters in 2016)- which group has actually been voting for bigger government? How did we get to where we are now? Whites of European descent. Let's kick them out and ban more from coming.
    We should drastically cut ALL immigration, we can't expel citizens but we should encourage secession or even expel states.


    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Is it the Democrat's fault? Have the Republicans who rule the Presidency and both houses of Congress been reducing that spending?
    Demoncrats are worse and there are issues that are even more important than money.


    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Also note that most immigration now is from Asia- not Latin America.



    It isn't about race zippy, Asian and European immigrants are a problem too.

    The only reason race is even involved in this thread is that hispanics identify as a separate group and the media looked at their voting habits.
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    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    We need to invade them ASAP to ensure that never happens.
    Simply protecting our borders and controlling immigration will work.
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    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Smart money is on "smaller government" - why? - because compared to Hillary, Trump's ideal government is as tiny as his hands.
    Hillary's government is much smaller than Trump's.
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    Pinochet is the model
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Hillary's government is much smaller than Trump's.

    Lol....
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    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    They do.


    We should drastically cut ALL immigration, we can't expel citizens but we should encourage secession or even expel states.



    Demoncrats are worse and there are issues that are even more important than money.



    It isn't about race zippy, Asian and European immigrants are a problem too.

    The only reason race is even involved in this thread is that hispanics identify as a separate group and the media looked at their voting habits.
    At least white conservatives aren't collective in their thinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    At least white conservatives aren't collective in their thinking.
    Most people are collective in their thinking and we must deal with that fact.
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    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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