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    The controversial San Francisco homeless tax passes.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/07/san-...ax-passes.html

    Wed, 7 Nov 2018

    The controversial San Francisco "homelessness tax" that divided the tech industry passed with nearly 60 percent affirmative votes, according to poll tallies Tuesday night.

    Proposition C will increase gross receipts taxes for companies with more than $50 million in annual revenue by an average of 0.5 percent, generating up to $300 million a year to combat the city's homelessness crisis through initiatives like new beds in shelters and increased mental health services.

    Prop C had both vocal proponents and vehement detractors in the tech industry.

    Salesforce CEO Marc Benioff strongly endorsedthe measure as a moral responsibility of tech companies, many of which have received tax breaks to maintain offices downtown. Together, Benioff and Salesforce contributed more than $7 million to support the proposal, which could cost Salesforce up to $10 million in additional taxes a year.

    On the other side, Twitter and Square CEO Jack Dorsey spoke out against Prop C, as did the CEO of payments company Stripe and the founder of Zynga, Mark Pincus. Lyft, venture capitalist Michael Moritz and Y Combinator's Paul Graham all donated at least $100,000 to the "No on Prop C" campaign, too.

    Critics of the proposition argued that it lacked proper accountability and oversight, and would unfairly affect financial services companies like Square. Outside the tech industry, San Francisco Mayor London Breed and state Sen. Scott Wiener opposed the measure as well.

    In the weeks leading up to the election, the measure became a point of tension in a city where tech-fueled wealth stands in stark contrast with the human suffering on display on its sidewalks.

    Overall, more than 7,000 people experience homelessness in San Francisco. The median house price hit $1.6 million earlier this year and one-bedroom apartments rent for an average of $3,300.

    Benioff was quick to sound off on the proposition's passing on Twitter:



    Supporters were hoping for the proposition to pass by a more than a two-thirds vote, which it ended up just shy of, to avoid any legal challenges. Benioff told The San Francisco Chronicle that he would fund a defense:




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    It's amazing how poorly run SF is.
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    That, and the fact SF considers itself a sanctuary city, we can expect more caravans. I hope they roll right up Hwy 1 through the blue ribbon that makes up the left in CA.
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    I support 100 percent san francisco tax
    Do something Danke

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    For some reason the country I live in has virtually no people living on the street. We take lots of refugees every year as well. Especially when compared to our population size. I am not a fan of this but I have to say we cope with it. I don't know why but some things in the US cost a whole lot of money but yield no results, that's the feeling I get when dealing with refugees or homeless people in the US.
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    Quote Originally Posted by luctor-et-emergo View Post
    For some reason the country I live in has virtually no people living on the street. We take lots of refugees every year as well. Especially when compared to our population size. I am not a fan of this but I have to say we cope with it. I don't know why but some things in the US cost a whole lot of money but yield no results, that's the feeling I get when dealing with refugees or homeless people in the US.
    Over there the welfare state has to visibly work at least a little or voters will change parties, over here the two party system prevents leftists from changing parties and keeping power, because they prefer power to actually caring for the poor they just keep voting Demoncrat no matter how bad things get.
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    Quote Originally Posted by luctor-et-emergo View Post
    For some reason the country I live in has virtually no people living on the street. We take lots of refugees every year as well. Especially when compared to our population size. I am not a fan of this but I have to say we cope with it. I don't know why but some things in the US cost a whole lot of money but yield no results, that's the feeling I get when dealing with refugees or homeless people in the US.

    If I may ask, what country are you referring to?
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    "Sí on C"

    LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauls' Revere View Post
    If I may ask, what country are you referring to?
    I think he's in the Netherlands.

    Epic thread:

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    Quote Originally Posted by luctor-et-emergo View Post
    For some reason the country I live in has virtually no people living on the street. We take lots of refugees every year as well. Especially when compared to our population size. I am not a fan of this but I have to say we cope with it. I don't know why but some things in the US cost a whole lot of money but yield no results, that's the feeling I get when dealing with refugees or homeless people in the US.
    The mentally ill in america will never surrender so easily .
    Do something Danke

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauls' Revere View Post
    If I may ask, what country are you referring to?
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    Do the TV's in their homeless shelters have the sports packages?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    North Korea
    LOL, Dam it! I sprayed the screen!

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    Notice how that Billionaire didn't just start a charity of his own to do that, but spent millions to get voters to force other companies to fund it.

    He created a new homeless market, requirement: must be homeless in San Francisco for, at least, 6 months before you can get help... oh, yes sir, I have my homeless papers right here...


    Most of the taxes collected for this will not actually even go to the homeless, that's the real joke, 70/30.


    Let's get a fund going to advertise the Homeless Caravan to San Francisco movement.... all 50 States.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mach View Post
    Notice how that Billionaire didn't just start a charity of his own to do that, but spent millions to get voters to force other companies to fund it.

    He created a new homeless market, requirement: must be homeless in San Francisco for, at least, 6 months before you can get help... oh, yes sir, I have my homeless papers right here...


    Most of the taxes collected for this will not actually even go to the homeless, that's the real joke, 70/30.


    Let's get a fund going to advertise the Homeless Caravan to San Francisco movement.... all 50 States.
    I just repped another post of yours so I can't rep this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mach View Post
    Notice how that Billionaire didn't just start a charity of his own to do that, but spent millions to get voters to force other companies to fund it.

    He created a new homeless market, requirement: must be homeless in San Francisco for, at least, 6 months before you can get help... oh, yes sir, I have my homeless papers right here...


    Most of the taxes collected for this will not actually even go to the homeless, that's the real joke, 70/30.


    Let's get a fund going to advertise the Homeless Caravan to San Francisco movement.... all 50 States.


    There you have it, the standard operating procedure of the rich leftist. And Benioff is a prime example.

    It goes something like this:

    - Bleeding heart leftist makes billions.
    - Now billionaire wants to “take care” of the less fortunate.
    - Billionaire starts charities.
    - Billionaire decides that he will go broke trying to fund everything, and also finds that he would rather keep his own money.
    - Billionaire pushes for public money, which will coincidently fund the charities he has already created.
    - Billionaire now has control of a nice flow of public money. More money, more power.
    - Billionare decides that his company has to pay too many taxes and he starts moving his business away.
    - With his business gone, billionare calls for more taxes to fund the charities he controls. He still wants to control the place he has destroyed.
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    Good.

    Hope the stench of the unwashed and $#@! in the streets chokes them all to death.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Good.

    Hope the stench of the unwashed and $#@! in the streets chokes them all to death.
    This is how I feel as well.
    I hope they keep jacking up the taxes, and punish silicon valley into oblivion.
    I hope the suburbs follow suite, so the silicon valley elite have nowhere to run.
    Then I hope for a violent maoist revolution, where all the unwashed masses of California rise up, and execute their silicon valley overlords, and strike their names from history, "because they are too rich".
    I am dead serious. I want silicon valley to nurture the beast that will literally destroy them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UWDude View Post
    This is how I feel as well.
    I hope they keep jacking up the taxes, and punish silicon valley into oblivion.
    I hope the suburbs follow suite, so the silicon valley elite have nowhere to run.
    Then I hope for a violent maoist revolution, where all the unwashed masses of California rise up, and execute their silicon valley overlords, and strike their names from history, "because they are too rich".
    I am dead serious. I want silicon valley to nurture the beast that will literally destroy them.
    And then when it is all over we send in the army to crush the communist uprising.
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    Fk... Why dont they take some of their "moving violation" traffic citations (fines > $500) and use that?
    Just a single traffic ticket can send a poor household into a tailspin.

    I really dont think SF has a tax revenue problem...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Good.

    Hope the stench of the unwashed and $#@! in the streets chokes them all to death.
    Hear, hear!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Good.

    Hope the stench of the unwashed and $#@! in the streets chokes them all to death.
    I remember Ron Paul teaching me that subsidies give you more of that which you subsidize and at higher prices. I predict that homeless shelters or whatever are about to greatly increase their prices and it will gleefully be spent by the Marxists in the SF Government.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    I support 100 percent san francisco tax
    Oh me too...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    And then when it is all over we send in the army to crush the communist uprising.
    I bet you fapped.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    I support 100 percent san francisco tax
    You're too late to save them . They will all be homeless at the rate they are headed
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    And then when it is all over we send in the army to crush the communist uprising.
    They'll crush themselves.
    World Star Hip-Hop and Live-Leaks has years of new juicy power struggle footage coming.

    And they'll never be able to figure out why their enemies somehow always end up in the new neighborhoods they moved to.
    It's because they're addicted to that cheap labor.



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