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    Michigan becomes 10th state to legalize recreational marijuana

    Michigan Voters Just Approved Full Marijuana Legalization

    By Kyle Jaeger
    November 6, 2018

    Michigan voters approved a measure to fully legalize marijuana on Tuesday, making it the first state in the Midwest to allow retail cannabis sales for adults 21 and older.

    With 50 percent of precincts reporting, the initiative, Proposal 1, has passed, ABC News has projected.

    “This is yet another historic election for the movement to end marijuana prohibition,” Marijuana Policy Project executive director Steve Hawkins said in a statement to Marijuana Moment. “Voters have once again sent a message loud and clear that it is time to legalize and regulate marijuana.”

    “The victory in Michigan highlights just how widespread support is for marijuana policy reform.”

    Under the new law, adults will be allowed to possess, buy and consume marijuana, and each individual can cultivate up to 12 plants for personal use. Adults may possess up to 10 ounces of cannabis at their residence.

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    North Dakota rejected recreational, but medical initiatives passed in Missouri and Utah.

    https://www.marijuanamoment.net/miss...juana-measure/

    https://www.marijuanamoment.net/utah...mpromise-deal/


    There are now 33 medical cannabis states.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jct74 View Post
    "each individual can cultivate up to 12 plants for personal use. Adults may possess up to 10 ounces of cannabis at their residence.
    I don't get it.... if you grow 12 plants, won't you have more than 10 ounces?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.3D View Post
    I don't get it.... if you grow 12 plants, won't you have more than 10 ounces?
    There is harvested and not harvested, cured and not cured.

    Even though legalized in many states, its still highly regulated, far more than what a lot of us here can imagine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eleganz View Post
    There is harvested and not harvested, cured and not cured.

    Even though legalized in many states, its still highly regulated, far more than what a lot of us here can imagine.
    So are they going to require you to tell them when you are harvesting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.3D View Post
    So are they going to require you to tell them when you are harvesting?
    Its not supposed to make sense to reasonable people, its the state man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.3D View Post
    I don't get it.... if you grow 12 plants, won't you have more than 10 ounces?
    Plants tend to get 1/2 oz - 3oz indoors, so you could end up with less than 10 ounces if you had a smaller plant with tighter buds, but certainly could end up with more.

    Outdoors of course you can get them huge and harvest into the pounds per plant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.3D View Post
    I don't get it.... if you grow 12 plants, won't you have more than 10 ounces?


    It's just like in Missouri, it says you will be allowed to have 6 flowering plants. I take that as meaning you may also have groups of plants that are not flowering, because you have to give them so long before you even know what gender they are... and yes, 6 flowering plants allowed, but only 4 oz of medicine (stash) in home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eleganz View Post
    Even though legalized in many states, its still highly regulated, far more than what a lot of us here can imagine.
    And understandably so. Imagine if people were allowed to grow as many plants as they wanted.

    It would be chaos.
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    The fact that they limit how many oz you can have, how many plants, and safes required for locking up anything more than 2.5 oz, I don't think this falls under full legalization.
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    And 321 Ohio militarize it's border with Michigan...no perceptible change

    why I should worship the state (who apparently is the only party that can possess guns without question).
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    Government should not have any say in growing for personal use. Regulation is going to lead to taxation.
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    All this legalization & yet the fed doesn't de-schedule.

    Don't need a weather man to know which way the wind blows

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aldous Huxley
    There's always soma to calm your anger, to reconcile you to your enemies, to make you patient and long-suffering. In the past you could only accomplish these things by making a great effort and after years of hard moral training.
    Not only is the government pacifying us, they're making us think this republic is still responsive to We, the People. And yet, this just encourages us to keep something around the house even though Washington reserves the right to kick in our doors, confiscate all our wealth and make us unpersons for having it.

    Is this progress?
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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Not only is the government pacifying us, they're making us think this republic is still responsive to We, the People. And yet, this just encourages us to keep something around the house even though Washington reserves the right to kick in our doors, confiscate all our wealth and make us unpersons for having it.

    Is this progress?
    It's a nothingburger

    Moving deck chairs around...

    why I should worship the state (who apparently is the only party that can possess guns without question).
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    Baptiste said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jct74 View Post
    updated US map


    Still can't quite drive across the country.. unless you get on a ferry in Illinois and go to Michigan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kpitcher View Post
    The fact that they limit how many oz you can have, how many plants, and safes required for locking up anything more than 2.5 oz, I don't think this falls under full legalization.
    Do you see the map that was posted? Decriminalization means you get a fine for possessing small amounts, and usually everything else is still illegal.

    Legalization means if a cop stops you and you have a joint, or a gram of herb, they cannot arrest or fine you.

    That is why people tend to support legalization bills, because if a cop smells weed in your house or your car they cannot use that as a reason to mess with you or search your $#@! because it no longer carries reasonable suspicion of a crime.

    They just cut down 400,000 plants near my house, and they have been shutting down a lot of "illegal grows". But guess what? Not one arrest has been made, nobody has gone to jail. That's something.. not optimal, but better than it was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jct74 View Post
    North Dakota rejected recreational, but medical initiatives passed in Missouri and Utah.

    https://www.marijuanamoment.net/miss...juana-measure/

    https://www.marijuanamoment.net/utah...mpromise-deal/


    There are now 33 medical cannabis states.
    My quick read of it was that a lot of initiatives that included heavy taxes passed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Still can't quite drive across the country.. unless you get on a fairy in Illinois and go to Michigan.
    I've never met the homosexual gentleman who could swim that far.
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Americans are all in the same boat, beseiged by the same sharks. And if we don't remember that, we're all equally $#@!ed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eleganz View Post
    There is harvested and not harvested, cured and not cured.

    Even though legalized in many states, its still highly regulated, far more than what a lot of us here can imagine.

    And taxed. Heavily.
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    Reading the comments.

    Yeah this sucks. Put it back the way it was. Am I right? No room for baby steps when you're changing minds.

    Meanwhile here in Georgia we're changing Sunday alcohol sale laws one county/municipality at a time, I'm celebrating every victory, one county at a time. Guess I don't really fit in with the instant gratification crowd.
    Last edited by nobody's_hero; 11-07-2018 at 11:37 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nobody's_hero View Post
    Reading the comments.

    Yeah this sucks. Put it back the way it was. Am I right? No room for baby steps when you're changing minds.

    Meanwhile here in Georgia we're changing Sunday alcohol sale laws one county/municipality at a time, I'm celebrating every victory, one county at a time. Guess I don't really fit in with the instant gratification crowd.
    /s

    Ya, sorry if I don't want to go to jail for having a joint......sorry if I don't want my 4th amendment bypassed for having weed on me..

    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Do you see the map that was posted? Decriminalization means you get a fine for possessing small amounts, and usually everything else is still illegal.

    Legalization means if a cop stops you and you have a joint, or a gram of herb, they cannot arrest or fine you.

    That is why people tend to support legalization bills, because if a cop smells weed in your house or your car they cannot use that as a reason to mess with you or search your $#@! because it no longer carries reasonable suspicion of a crime.

    They just cut down 400,000 plants near my house, and they have been shutting down a lot of "illegal grows". But guess what? Not one arrest has been made, nobody has gone to jail. That's something.. not optimal, but better than it was.
    Last edited by dannno; 11-07-2018 at 12:25 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    My quick read of it was that a lot of initiatives that included heavy taxes passed.
    I do believe missouri rejected a 13% tax and agreed to a 4% tax.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kpitcher View Post
    The fact that they limit how many oz you can have, how many plants, and safes required for locking up anything more than 2.5 oz, I don't think this falls under full legalization.
    This is better than the deal the House was going to give us, which would have banned home growing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Not only is the government pacifying us, they're making us think this republic is still responsive to We, the People. And yet, this just encourages us to keep something around the house even though Washington reserves the right to kick in our doors, confiscate all our wealth and make us unpersons for having it.

    Is this progress?
    This was a petition-driven ballot initiative, not a government creation.
    * Enforce Border Security – America should be guarding her own borders and enforcing her own laws instead of policing the world and implementing UN mandates.

    * No Amnesty - The Obama Administration’s endorsement of so-called “Comprehensive Immigration Reform,” granting amnesty to millions of illegal immigrants, will only encourage more law-breaking.

    * Abolish the Welfare State – Taxpayers cannot continue to pay the high costs to sustain this powerful incentive for illegal immigration. As Milton Friedman famously said, you can’t have open borders and a welfare state.

    * End Birthright Citizenship – As long as illegal immigrants know their children born here will be granted U.S. citizenship, we’ll never be able to control our immigration problem.




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    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    Good Deal..the one thing that may make a Family Reunion better.

    A couple of years to show that the stupid Reefer Madness opposition are Ignorant Phucks and not worth listening to.

    then there may be hope.
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