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Thread: MEGA? France calls for creation of a ‘true European army’ to defend against Russia, US

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    MEGA? France calls for creation of a ‘true European army’ to defend against Russia, US

    Is this French version of MEGA (Make Europe Great Again):
    Very disappointed in Macron:

    Emmanuel Macron calls for creation of a ‘true European army’ to defend against Russia and the US

    French president makes new appeal for force in run-up to First World War Armistice centenary



    Emmanuel Macron has called for the creation of a “true European army” to allow the EU defend itself from threats ranging from Donald Trump to Vladimir Putin.

    The French president has pushed for closer EU defence union since coming to power last year but has been so far met with limited success amid foot-dragging by other member states.

    “We have to protect ourselves with respect to China, Russia and even the United States of America,” Mr Macron told France’s Europe 1 radio in an interview.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a8619721.html



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    They want one to fight the coming EU civil war against the Separatists.
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    The members of the European Intervention Initiative (EI2), a French plan to increase military cooperation in Europe, held their first meeting in Paris on Nov. 7. The main goal of the EI2, which consists of France, Germany, the United Kingdom, Belgium, Denmark, Estonia, the Netherlands, Spain, Portugal and Finland, is to develop a shared strategic culture and improve the ability of its members to carry out missions together. It is part of France's push to enhance Europe's strategic autonomy at a time of growing competition between global powers like the United States, Russia and China.

    The EI2 was first proposed by French President Emmanuel Macron in 2017, and the participating countries (sans Finland, which decided to join later) signed a letter of intent to create the group in July 2018. With the EI2, France is looking for politically willing European allies who have the resources to take military action. The EI2's membership reveals that France is willing to go beyond the European Union in its quest for partners (as the United Kingdom will leave the bloc in 2019) and also outside of NATO (as Finland is not a member of the Atlantic alliance).
    France's expansive vision is making some of its partners nervous. Germany is currently a member of the EI2, but Berlin is worried that the project will create conflict or redundancy with the European Union's own initiatives for deepening military cooperation, most notably the Permanent Structured Cooperation (PESCO). Germany is also concerned about the participation of a future non-EU country, the United Kingdom, and the fact that only a third of EU member states are currently members, as Berlin would prefer a broader consensus at the bloc level. Finally, Germany fears that the EI2 could force it to become more active in military operations abroad, which is always a controversial issue for the country.
    France has reassured its EU partners that the EI2 can coexist alongside PESCO, and that it will not lead to competition between EU and extra-EU initiatives. However, France's plans reveal that Paris is worried that PESCO, which involves most EU countries, is too bureaucratic and too modest in comparison to the EI2. France also argues that the EI2 complements and reinforces NATO, an argument supported by the membership of the United Kingdom, which is skeptical of any initiatives that conflict with NATO. But not every country agrees. Italy initially showed interest in joining the group but eventually withdrew out of concerns for potential divergences among the EI2, NATO and PESCO.

    More at: https://worldview.stratfor.com/artic...de-confines-eu
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    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

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    heh heh... Rothschild's little 'child emperor' tries to promote the banker's dream
    (before he falls from the throne.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    Is this French version of MEGA (Make Europe Great Again):
    Very disappointed in Macron:

    Emmanuel Macron calls for creation of a ‘true European army’ to defend against Russia and the US

    French president makes new appeal for force in run-up to First World War Armistice centenary



    Emmanuel Macron has called for the creation of a “true European army” to allow the EU defend itself from threats ranging from Donald Trump to Vladimir Putin.

    The French president has pushed for closer EU defence union since coming to power last year but has been so far met with limited success amid foot-dragging by other member states.

    “We have to protect ourselves with respect to China, Russia and even the United States of America,” Mr Macron told France’s Europe 1 radio in an interview.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a8619721.html
    I'm all for this as long as the US brings all troops home from Europe and leave NATO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dean.engelhardt View Post
    I'm all for this as long as the US brings all troops home from Europe and leave NATO.
    I'm against it but recognize it is none of my business and we need to bring all our troops home one way or another.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    lol france

    member this?



    (Macron snickers as royal band mocks Trump 'welcome' w/ 'Daft Punk' rendition...)

    Trump knew... oh yes.

    Last edited by goldenequity; 11-10-2018 at 09:48 PM.



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