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    Another Heart Medicine Was Just Recalled For Containing A Likely Carcinogen

    If you take a medicine called Irbesartan, used to treat high blood pressure and hypertension, you'll want to check the label. The FDA announced a voluntary recall of the drug due to trace amounts of the NDEA (N-nitrosodiethylamine) on behalf of Sciegen Pharmaceuticals.
    The substance occurs naturally in certain foods, drinking water, air pollution, and industrial processes, and it has been classified as a probable human carcinogen by the International Agency for Research on Cancer.
    Twenty-two batches of the drug, with distribution dates between January 2016 and December 2017, were recalled. The bottles affected are labeled "Westminster Pharmaceuticals" or "GSMS Incorporated," and are 30- or 90-count bottles of 75mg, 150mg, or 300mg tablets. The FDA has full details of the bottles affected, including the lot number, on its website.
    If you do have one of the affected bottles, contact your doctor before you stop taking the medicine, the announcement says. "The risk of harm to a patient’s health may be higher if the treatment is stopped immediately without any alternative treatment."

    More at: https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/hear...185400209.html
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    The substance occurs naturally in certain foods, drinking water,
    Better ban those too, eh?

    "Traces found". How much and how much is associated with a cancer risk?

    Study tried to find out: https://www.bmj.com/content/362/bmj.k3851

    The results do not imply a markedly increased short term overall risk of cancer in users of valsartan contaminated with NDMA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Better ban those too, eh?

    "Traces found". How much and how much is associated with a cancer risk?

    Study tried to find out: https://www.bmj.com/content/362/bmj.k3851
    Let's put trace amounts in everything we consume then.

    As long as each source only contained trace amounts it couldn't possibly add up to a dangerous amount, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Let's put trace amounts in everything we consume then.

    As long as each source only contained trace amounts it couldn't possibly add up to a dangerous amount, right?
    "Trace amounts" can now be measured in parts per trillion. At that level you can find almost anything in everything. One part per billion is the same as one pinch of salt on ten tons of potato chips. One part per trillion is a pinch of salt in 1,000 tons of potato chips.
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    FDA Recalls Yet Another Blood Pressure Medication, Losartan, Due to Cancer Concerns

    By BRITTANY SHOOT November 13, 2018
    The United States Food and Drug Administration (FDA) is recalling losartan, a blood pressure medication, after finding contamination that could cause cancer.

    The voluntary recall of losartan potassium hydrochlorothiazide by pharmaceutical company Sandoz Inc., is for 100 milligram/25 milligram tablets with the lot number JB8912. The affected product was distributed nationwide on or after October 8, 2018. In total, the recall encompasses less than 1% of the national losartan drug products. The FDA reports that so far, Sandoz has not received any reports of adverse events related to the drug.

    The losartan lot being recalled was found to be contaminated with trace amounts of an impurity, N-nitrosodiethylamine (NDEA). NDEA is an organic chemical that is classified as a probable human carcinogen and is used to make liquid rocket fuel. It’s also a byproduct of pesticide manufacture and of fish processing.

    If this sounds familiar, it’s because the FDA recently recalled blood pressure drug irbesartan for the exact same reason. That product callback followed on another NDEA-related drug recall, for another blood pressure medication, valsartan, back in July.

    As with previous recalls, the FDA cautions that if you take these hypertension medications, it is important to consult a pharmacist or physician before discontinuing use of the drug, as that may have even more severe effects than taking a contaminated pill.
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    Two more blood pressure drugs recalled for potential cancer risk
    Brett Molina, USA TODAY

    Teva Pharmaceuticals has launched a voluntary recall into two drugs used to treat high blood pressure as yet more medications face concerns over a possible cancer risk.

    In a statement from Teva posted by the Food and Drug Administration, the recall affects all lots of combination tablets featuring the drugs amlodipine and valsartan and another combo drug featuring amlodipine, valsartan, and hydrochlorothiazide.

    The drugs could contain an impurity called N-nitroso-diethylamine (NDEA), which has been classified as a possible human carcinogen, the FDA said.

    Patients taking either drugs should contact their doctor or pharmacist for advice or alternative treatments. Stopping the drugs immediately with no comparable alternative could pose a greater risk to patients' health, said Teva.

    More: Doctors: Blood pressure drug substitutes are available for patients affected by recalls

    More: FDA chief: Blood pressure medicine recalls reflect increased scrutiny on drug safety

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    Customers and patients with questions can contact Teva by phone at 888-838-2872, or email at druginfo@tevapharm.com.

    In August, the FDA announced an expanded recall of valsartan because products may contain the impurity. Last month, two more recalls were announced: one for the drug irbesartan and a second recall for losartan potassium hydrochlorothiazide tablets.

    During an interview in November with USA TODAY, FDA commissioner Scott Gottlieb said the blood pressure drug recalls reflect an increased focus on drug quality to ensure no impurities are present.
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    So should government regulate what is allowed in medicines? Keep potentially harmful things out? Or should a company be free to add whatever they want to them- free market- and let people die/ decide?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    So should government regulate what is allowed in medicines? Keep potentially harmful things out? Or should a company be free to add whatever they want to them- free market- and let people die/ decide?
    Free market and Judicial Systems would work just fine. All of government's alphabet agencies give people a false sense of security.
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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    Free market and Judicial Systems would work just fine. All of government's alphabet agencies give people a false sense of security.
    So it OK for them to put whatever they want in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    So it OK for them to put whatever they want in.
    If they want to stay in business and not be sued or imprisoned for negligence, then yes.

    I believe people would pay more attention then and not solely rely on the alphabet agencies that pretend they are there for their safety.
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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    If they want to stay in business and not be sued or imprisoned for negligence, then yes.

    I believe people would pay more attention then and not solely rely on the alphabet agencies that pretend they are there for their safety.
    The burden of proof of any risk or harm is on the consumers then. They have to provide the testing and diagnostics to prove that that particular pill directly caused their problems. Then you need your own money to challenge the deep pockets of the company producing it.

    If something causes cancer, how do you know it was the cause of your specific cancer? Cancer takes time to develop. You did, ate and drank thousands of different things. Which of them caused your cancer? Who do you sue? Or maybe it was just genetics- you inherited bad genes and your parents were at fault.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    The burden of proof of any risk or harm is on the consumers then. They have to provide the testing and diagnostics to prove that that particular pill directly caused their problems. Then you need your own money to challenge the deep pockets of the company producing it.

    If something causes cancer, how do you know it was the cause of your specific cancer? Cancer takes time to develop. You did, ate and drank thousands of different things. Which of them caused your cancer? Who do you sue? Or maybe it was just genetics- you inherited bad genes and your parents were at fault.
    And you think the FDA and CDC do any of the testing? Hahahahahahahahahaha!

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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    And you think the FDA and CDC do any of the testing? Hahahahahahahahahaha!

    With liberty there are always risks.
    With everything there are risks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    With everything there are risks.
    Correct, especially if you blindly trust the FDA and CDC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    With everything there are risks.
    No business would purposely put bad elements in a product in a free trade environment that is not controlled/subsidized by .gov.

    If something bad happened to a customer- BAM- no more customers and no more money.
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    Mylan NV said on Tuesday it is expanding a nationwide voluntary recall of its blood pressure medicine valsartan to include all lots, two weeks after it recalled select batches.The drugmaker said it was recalling 104 additional lots "out of an abundance of caution" after the valsartan-containing products were found to contain traces of a probable cancer-causing impurity.
    Several drugmakers, including Teva Pharmaceutical Industries Ltd, have recalled batches of valsartan and drugs containing the substance that are suspected to be tainted with probable carcinogens N-nitrosodiethylamine (NDEA)and N-nitrosodimethylamine (NDMA).
    Global health authorities have also clamped down, with European regulators last month effectively banning sales of the product, made by Mylan's India-based unit, in Europe.
    The finished products recalled by Mylan on Tuesday, were manufactured by its units Mylan Pharmaceuticals Inc and India-based Mylan Laboratories Ltd and distributed in the United States between March 2017 and November 2018, the company said in a statement.

    The U.S. Food and Drug Administration had earlier halted imports of drug ingredients or medicines containing ingredients produced at a factory belonging to a Chinese bulk manufacturer of valsartan, Zhejiang Huahai Pharmaceuticals.

    More at: https://www.yahoo.com/news/mylan-rec...--finance.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    So should government regulate what is allowed in medicines?
    NO

    That is the consumers responsibility.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    NO

    That is the consumers responsibility.
    How do you find out what is in every medicine on the market? Do you take the time to look them up before you purchase anything?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    How do you find out what is in every medicine on the market? Do you take the time to look them up before you purchase anything?
    Most people don't because they think the FDA and the CDC are looking out for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    How do you find out what is in every medicine on the market? Do you take the time to look them up before you purchase anything?
    Why would you want to purchase something you Know Nothing About?

    and in the old days we used a Physicians Desk Reference.. combined with our personal Knowledge.

    Research and consumer Groups (Watchdogs) produced information..


    But people still buy magic beans today
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