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    Soros vs Adelson, whose political funding is better for cause of liberty?

    Soros vs Adelson, whose political funding is better for cause of liberty?

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    Adelson: US should drop atomic bomb on Iran

    American-Jewish billionaire blasts Obama over negotiations with Tehran; says US should show Iran nuclear capabilities.

    By Maya Shwayder, JERUSALEM POST CORRESPONDENT
    October 24, 2013




    Boteach Adelson Yeshiva debate 370. (photo credit: Courtesy of Shmuley Boteach)

    NEW YORK – During a panel at Yeshiva University on Tuesday evening, Sheldon Adelson, noted businessman and owner of the newspaper Israel Hayom, suggested that the US should use nuclear weapons on Iran to impose its demands from a position of strength.

    Asked by moderator Rabbi Shmuley Boteach whether the US should negotiate with Iran if it were to cease its uranium enrichment program, Adelson retorted, “What are we going to negotiate about?”


    Adelson then imagined what might happen if an American official were to call up an Iranian official, say “watch this,” and subsequently drop a nuclear bomb in the middle of the Iranian desert.

    "Then you say, ‘See! The next one is in the middle of Tehran. So, we mean business. You want to be wiped out? Go ahead and take a tough position and continue with your nuclear development. You want to be peaceful? Just reverse it all, and we will guarantee you that you can have a nuclear power plant for electricity purposes, energy purposes’," Adelson said.

    “So a tremendous demonstration of American strength?” Boteach clarified. “So that they would get the message?”

    “It’s the only thing they understand,” Adelson said.
    https://www.jpost.com/Diplomacy-and-...on-Iran-329641


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    If we were to drop one in The Negev desert, would Israel abandons its nukes?
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
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  5. #4
    Yer making it too easy.

    Don't need a weather man to know which way the wind blows

  6. #5
    The problem with money in politics is not who is buying the influence, but who has something to sell. The only way to stop it is to take the power away from politicians. Then, the money would dry up.
    "And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat

    "It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    If we were to drop one in The Negev desert, would Israel abandons its nukes?
    Apples n oranges, they are probably the only civilized nation in mideast that shares democratic values with us and does not discriminate based on race/religion/creed.


    Quote Originally Posted by shakey1 View Post
    Yer making it too easy.
    Easy peasy, donors squeezy


    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    The problem with money in politics is not who is buying the influence, but who has something to sell. The only way to stop it is to take the power away from politicians. Then, the money would dry up.
    That's seems like catch 22, how can power be taken away from politicians without taking power away from voters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    The problem with money in politics is not who is buying the influence, but who has something to sell. The only way to stop it is to take the power away from politicians. Then, the money would dry up.

    Simple, straightforward, logical common sense. And as usual it will be completely ignored by those who need to recognize it the most.
    Chris

    "Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon

    "...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul

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    Neither.
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge



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    MAGA's largest donor is facing some criticism after recent PA shooting:

    Jewish Casino Billionaire Is Major Trump Donor; Stop Enabling Bigots, Sheldon Adelson

    November 4, 2018 | by David H. Rothman

    Tags:
    • Donald Trump
    • George Soros
    • Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society
    • Sheldon Adelson



    Donald Trump is still demonizing billionaire George Soros and other “globalists,” just as he did in a 2016 campaign commercial with anti-Semitic dog-whistles, or at least something very close.

    But Trump is picky about which Jewish billionaires to smear, and for good reason.

    None other than Sheldon Adelson, the Jewish casino billionaire, helped finance our demagogic President’s rise to power. In this election cycle, he is the number one donor to the Republican Party in its Trumpist incarnation. Adelson has splurged at least $55 million on the sullied GOP through two groups.

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    They’re both old, crooked and support Donald Trump…

    See the following overview on some of the links of Soros to Donald Trump and Trump’s Secretary of the Treasury Steve Mnuchin (of Skull & Bones).




    For more information on the funding of the Cadre of Donald’s son-in-law Jared Kushner with $250 million by George Soros: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...=1#post6562491
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    Have not validated shocking claims in this NY Mag report:

    Oct. 10, 2018
    Trump Has Made Enriching Sheldon Adelson a Top Goal of U.S.-Japan Relations

    By Eric Levitz @EricLevitz


    Government of the Adelsons, for the Adelsons, by the Adelsons. Photo: Steve Mack/Getty Images

    Early in his primary campaign, Donald Trump gave Americans a bracing account of how politics worked in their country. Asked to justify his past donations to Hillary Clinton and the Democratic Party, Trump explained, “I give to everybody. When they call, I give. And you know what? When I need something from them, two years later, three years later, I call them. They are there for me. And that’s a broken system.”

    What Americans needed, then, was a politician who was simply too rich to be bought — a man who could self-fund his campaign, and thus, owe nothing to anyone after Election Day save for ordinary voters. When Trump wasn’t calling for a Muslim ban, touting the size of his wall, or encouraging his supporters to beat protesters, this was the product he sold to the GOP base: the dream of a president that big money couldn’t touch.
    Of course, like so many other Trump products, this dream was a sham. The mogul had always funded his big endeavors with other people’s money, and his political venture was no different. He had no genuine beef with the “broken system” of influence peddling — he merely wanted to transition to its “sell side.” So, his campaign accepted $25 million from casino magnate Sheldon Adelson. And when Sheldon called after Inauguration Day, Trump was there for him.
    Specifically, the president agreed to make “increasing the global market-share of Sheldon Adelson’s gambling empire” a top-tier priority of American foreign policy toward Japan.

    For years before Trump’s election, casino magnates had been eyeing that nation with unrequited lust: Thanks to its stringent anti-casino laws, Japan was one of the last untapped markets for exploiting gambling addicts on planet Earth. One month after Trump painted the Rust Belt red, Japanese prime minister Shinzo Abe pushed a bill legalizing casinos through the legislature. The new law allowed for the provision of just three casino licenses in the entire country — guaranteeing their recipients local monopolies.
    Thus, in February 2017, Adelson flew to Washington, D.C., for a meeting with the new president, and the Japanese prime minister. And after Adelson pitched the Japanese leader on his business, Trump went in for the close. As ProPublica reports:
    Adelson had a potent ally in his quest: the new president of the United States. Following the business breakfast, Abe had a meeting with Trump before boarding Air Force One for a weekend at Mar-a-Lago. The two heads of state dined with Patriots owner Bob Kraft and golfed at Trump National Jupiter Golf Club with the South African golfer Ernie Els. During a meeting at Mar-a-Lago that weekend, Trump raised Adelson’s casino bid to Abe, according to two people briefed on the meeting. The Japanese side was surprised.

    “It was totally brought up out of the blue,” according to one of the people briefed on the exchange. “They were a little incredulous that he would be so brazen.” After Trump told Abe he should strongly consider Las Vegas Sands for a license, “Abe didn’t really respond, and said thank you for the information,” this person said.
    Adelson still hasn’t secured one of Japan’s coveted casino licenses. But on a recent earnings call he told investors, “[W]e’re in the No. 1 pole position.”

    ProPublica goes on to detail Adelson’s influence over other aspects of the Trump administration’s governance, including his transparent role in shaping its (extraordinarily hostile) policies toward the Palestinians. Less well known, though, is Adelson’s success in persuading the EPA to devote a portion of its limited funds to studying his billionaire friend’s mediocre water technology. The Israeli start-up Watergen, owned by Adelson pal Michael Mirilashvili, makes machines that can extract potable water from the air. In his first weeks as EPA director, Scott Pruitt met with Watergen’s executives at Adelson’s behest, and then promptly pushed for the agency to strike a deal with the company that would allow the U.S. to study its technology:
    Pruitt, according to one email, asked that staffers explore “on an expedited time frame” whether a deal could be done “without the typical contracting requirements.” Other emails described the matter as “very time sensitive” and having “high Administrator interest.”

    A veteran scientist at the agency warned that the “technology has been around for decades,” adding that the agency should not be “focusing on a single vendor, in this case Watergen.” Officials said that Watergen’s technology was not unique, noting there were as many as 70different suppliers on the market with products using the same concept. Notes from a meeting said the agency “does not currently have the expertise or staff to evaluate these technologies.” Agency lawyers “seemed scared” about the arrangement, according to an internal text exchange. The EPA didn’t respond to requests for comment.

    The deal got done.

    .....


    Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) told reporters on Thursday that a failure to pass tax reform would fracture the Republican Party and lead to more far-right wing primary challengers. “The financial contributions will stop,” he added.
    Within the White House, of course, the graft has typically been at once more petty and egregious. The president relentlessly uses his office to promote his private properties, while virtually every member of his Cabinet has been caught with their hands in Uncle Sam’s till, at one point or another.

    Full article at:

    http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/...ns-behalf.html

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    "The Patriarch"

    willie with tan lines: enjoy the shots and the woman
    Quote Originally Posted by Schifference View Post
    The man did not think clearly. It was almost as if he had brain cancer of something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post

    3D Chess to appreciate non-globalist MAGA America Firsters perhaps.




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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    3D Chess to appreciate non-globalist MAGA America Firsters perhaps.




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    It's quantum inter-dimensional chess.
    "The Patriarch"

    willie with tan lines: enjoy the shots and the woman
    Quote Originally Posted by Schifference View Post
    The man did not think clearly. It was almost as if he had brain cancer of something.

  17. #15
    MAGA's latest anti-Bolton Syria exit rehtoric if confirmed as non-fakenews would negate such conspiracy theories that claimed he was a funded by and puppet of widely respected neoconservative GOP-Adelson wing's top donor.



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