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  1. #31
    Another lie, and a ton of 'you didn't slobber over the GOP knob so you must be That Other Thing illogic. Followed by a dose of you're too lazy to look it up but anyone can look it up.

    Care to try again? Or quitting before you stick your other foot in your mouth as well?
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.



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  3. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Another lie, and a ton of 'you didn't slobber over the GOP knob so you must be That Other Thing illogic. Followed by a dose of you're too lazy to look it up but anyone can look it up.

    Care to try again? Or quitting before you stick your other foot in your mouth as well?
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  5. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Proving yet again that your moniker is perfect, pardon the rest of us if we choose not to have a slave mentality.

    Your damn right my moniker is perfect. You obviously can't see past your Freedom.

    He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.

  6. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by Slave Mentality View Post
    Your damn right my moniker is perfect. You obviously can't see past your Freedom.

    Enjoy your chains, I will do what I can to break mine.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  7. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post

    Enjoy your chains, I will do what I can to break mine.
    Hey, you are coming along. At least you admit you are in chains. Any may yours rest lightly friend!

    He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.

  8. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by Slave Mentality View Post
    Hey, you are coming along. At least you admit you are in chains. Any may yours rest lightly friend!
    We are all in chains and you are telling us to give up and pretend that we aren't.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  9. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    For someone who'd rather eat glass than admit any kinship with the mainstream media, you sure do act just like them. You divide people along the same lines, you duck questions the same way, you repeat allegations already convincingly denied the same way, you prefer innuendo to fact the same way, you duck backing up your lies the same way, you're just as blase about fact and just as tenacious in sticking by your narrative even as it crumbles out from beneath your feet, and you make the claim you're warm and fuzzy and looking after reality and human interest in giving up any hint of principle, but you're just as depressing.

    You insist your two choices are the only two choices the same way they do, you say if you ain't this you must be that they same way they do, you play the if you don't support government involvement in a thing you must not want that thing done at all game as well as any Marxist does.

    You even change the subject/pick a new victim the same way when your previous $#@!'s odor can no longer be denied.

    You might as well write a thesis and get a journalism degree, because what passes for journalism today is just what you do.
    Last edited by acptulsa; 10-29-2018 at 05:12 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

  10. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    For someone who'd rather eat glass than admit any kinship with the mainstream media, you sure do act just like them. You divide people along the same lines, you duck questions the same way, you repeat allegations already convincingly denied the same way, you prefer innuendo to fact the same way, you duck backing up your lies the same way, you're just as blase about fact and just as tenacious in sticking by your narrative even as it crumbles out from beneath your feet, and you make the claim you're warm and fuzzy and looking after reality and human interest in giving up any hint of principle, but you're just as depressing.

    You insist your two choices are the only two choices the same way they do, you say if you ain't this you must be that they same way they do, you play the if you don't support government involvement in a thing you must not want that thing done at all game as well as any Marxist does.

    You even change the subject/pick a new victim the same way when your previous $#@!'s odor can no longer be denied.
    LOL

    Nothing you said is even close to true.












    But I know to expect that from you by now.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  11. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    LOL

    Nothing you said is even close to true.
    Care to put that to a vote?
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

  12. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by Aratus View Post
    He lost his house in 2009 so he did not have property in his name.
    He became a drifter doing odd jobs etc. as his anger built up. It is
    a fluke coincidence that Trump's Treasury Sec' was part of the bank
    that "repo'd" the guy's house by way of dubious foreclosure papers.
    What the Marxists call Lumpenproletariat:

    "Roughly translated as slum workers or the mob, this term identifies the class of outcast, degenerated and submerged elements that make up a section of the population of industrial centers. It includes beggars, prostitutes, gangsters, racketeers, swindlers, petty criminals, tramps, chronic unemployed or unemployables, persons who have been cast out by industry, and all sorts of declassed, degraded or degenerated elements. In times of prolonged crisis (depression), innumerable young people also, who cannot find an opportunity to enter into the social organism as producers, are pushed into this limbo of the outcast. Here demagogues and fascists of various stripes find some area of the mass base in time of struggle and social breakdown, when the ranks of the Lumpenproletariat are enormously swelled by ruined and declassed elements from all layers of a society in decay." (www[dot]marxists.org/glossary/terms/l/u.htm)

    Here, Trumpenproletariat
    Last edited by r3volution 3.0; 10-29-2018 at 05:30 PM.



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  14. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Care to put that to a vote?
    Because voting determines truth?
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  15. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Because voting determines truth?
    If you're stuck in de Nile, it can provide you with a paddle.
    Last edited by acptulsa; 10-29-2018 at 05:33 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

  16. #43
    Inconsistencies Between Facts And Narrative
    The official narrative being promoted by mainstream media sources and law enforcement does not match the facts. Apparent contradictions over whether the bombs were real or inert and indications that at least some were not mailed through USPS create factual conflicts that have not been explained.
    On October 24th, The New York Times reported that not a single bomb had exploded and that investigators indicated that they could be hoax devices, constructed to look like bombs but unable to harm anyone. NBC New York reported these claims the next day, suggesting that the "bombs" could have been part of a "menacing political hoax." The notion that the bombs were hoaxes was so strong that NBC's Chuck Todd claimed it was part of a Russian operation seeking to divide Americans.
    Former explosive ordinance disposal officers opined on Twitter that the construction of the bombs was nonsensical; they did not have proper timers and were sensationally made to look real to an unknowledgeable viewer. Yet on October 26, FBI Director Christopher Wray claimed that the devices were not hoaxes. This conclusion is not supported by the obviously shoddy construction of devices, publicly viewable online.
    Reports emerged on October 26 stating that at least some of the parcel bombs were sent from the United States Postal Service in Opa-Locka, Florida. But according to the New York Times, several of the packages sent to George Soros, CNN and possibly Robert DeNiro were delivered by courier. It's not clear how the alleged perpetrator Cesar Sayoc was able to coordinate this kind of personal delivery in multiple cities while physically remaining in Florida. Although the courier-delivered packages bore a few postage stamps, they did not bear cancellation markings.
    Choice of Targets
    The choice of targets in this case also raise more questions than provides answers. The ostensible explanation is that Sayoc targeted DNC officials or DNC supporters because he was a Trump supporter. But all individuals targeted by the alleged mail bombs are either Democrat establishment politicians or backers of the DNC's "old guard." Not one single intended victim is a Democratic Socialist or left leaning public figure from the new and emergent faction of the DNC challenging current leadership.
    These facts could have different implications depending on the angle from which they are considered. If the bombing spree was a calculated hoax, it would explain the ill-constructed inert devices. A campaign targeting "Trump critics" would give the DNC establishment a much needed boost ahead of the 2018 midterm elections. Almost all of the targets are politicians with government protections in place to prevent any danger from mailed explosives, or wealthy and successful political donors who are protected by ample private security. There was never a chance that these bombs would reach any of their intended targets. It is undeniable that in the wake of this event, the specific figures who were singled out are effectively insulated from criticism by progressive voters who view the establishment as corrupt. Voicing such criticism now means those speaking out risk being associated with "extremists."
    If the bombs really were part of an intended campaign targeting establishment DNC figures, there are some indications that the plot was planned and executed by someone with a totally different bone to pick with the Democrats. Every package containing a device bore a return address with the name of Debbie Wasserman Shultz, the Florida Congresswoman who is oft ridiculed by Bernie Sanders supporters for her role in helping to rig the 2016 DNC primary for Hilary Clinton. This suggests that if the campaign was in fact not a hoax, the profile of the perpetrator would be one of an individual or group who felt alienated by the DNC and targeted figures they associated with the Democratic elite. The fact that most of the bombs never posed a danger of going off implies inadequate access to proper know-how or a desire to send a message to the recipients collectively.
    The choice of targets simply does not create an ironclad narrative that the bombs were mailed by a Trump supporter who wanted to target the President's critics.
    Involvement Of Hollywood In Narrative Creation And Promotion
    Hollywood script writers, directors and film makers played central roles in forming narratives and distributing footage during the bomb scares and after Cesar Sayoc's arrest. Jimmy Kimmel writer Bess Kalb pushed the "#MAGAbomber" hashtag on Twitter when the first reports began to emerge on October 24th. Kalb openly bragged that the hashtag was "branding" meant to influence the upcoming 2018 midterm elections. On multiple occasions, Kalb used the events to urge her followers to vote for the DNC.
    Cocaine Cowboys director Billy Corben also helped spread images taken by producer David Cypkin in December 2017 showing Cesar Sayoc's stickered van. The photos posted by Cypkin show that the imagery covering the van had been altered in the 10 months between December and Sayoc's arrest in October 2018. Documentary filmmaker and activist Michael Moore also released images of Sayoc attending a Trump rally on October 28.
    Filmmakers and script writers were not the only ones able to get in on narrative formation during the bomb scare. Alex Soros was miraculously able to draft, edit and publish an Op-Ed with the New York Times just a few hours after reports of multiple mail bombs emerged on October 24th. Soros took the opportunity to decry "demonization" of his father George Soros, Barak Obama and Hillary Clinton as the reason for the incidents.
    Did The FBI Get The Wrong Suspect?
    Much has been made of Cesar Sayoc's life in Miami and his apparent support for Donald Trump by the media. But the cartoonish display that was the suspect's van, the strange posts coming from online accounts attributed to him and the continued delivery of bombs after his arrest all indicate that the FBI could have the wrong man.
    Photos of Sayoc's sticker-covered van have been distributed widely in news reports and on social media. Strangely, no stickers are found on the paint or bumpers of the vehicle. There are no signs that the van was vandalized in any way, something that would be expected in the strongly blue Broward County. The stickers in the windows of Sayoc's vehicle would have constantly singled him out for traffic citations from police. As Sayoc's lawyers and family have stated that he has been living in his car for years, it strains credulity to think that police officers would not search his vehicle and find some evidence of his involvement in the letter bomb campaign during the course of issuing a citation.
    Although the media has made much of the suspect's social media posts, closer examination raises further questions. A Twitter account now attributed to Sayoc showed that he followed a number of celebrities and Democrat politicians but not a single conservative figure, including President Donald Trump. The account would spam the same images multiple times a day, with posts that suffered severely from incorrect grammar and punctuation. This style of transcription can be seen in the apparent death threat that the account sent to Democratic strategist Rochelle Ritchie. In the past, an account displaying this behavior would have been dismissed as automated or running a bot script. It adds yet another layer of confusion to an already cloudy case.
    Lastly, Sayoc's arrest has not stopped the delivery of packages to victims, resulting in further scares and security responses. On October 29, 2018, CNN's Atlanta headquarters were evacuated after the delivery of a package that the FBI said was similar in appearance to the 14 others delivered the previous week. After the coordinated manner in which the majority of the bombs were delivered in the same day, the subsequent delivery of another package days after Sayoc's arrest creates the impression that the true culprits are tauntingly thumbing their noses at law enforcement.

    More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-...-case-dont-add
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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