If Ron Paul Had Become President

[Working Poor]

Do you think if Ron had become President that he would have been able to get anything done? I think Ron would have had an even bigger fight on his hands than Trump does.

I am kinda glad that he did not have to go thru it. I think they would have taken him out if he had tried to end the FED and the IRS and we would all be in jail or 6ft under.

[Anti Globalist]

He wouldn't even make it to the inauguration as he would most likely be assassinated. If he were to live, I'd say he'd probably at least 20-30% of his agenda done. I wish it would be 100% but we gotta be realistic.

[Swordsmyth]

I'm pretty sure they would have impeached him on trumped up charges or killed him, since he was willing to take the risk I was willing to vote for him but it would have been a miracle if he survived and accomplished anything. (I also believe in miracles)

[timosman]

Ron didn't have the balls nor connections to pull this off. He would been given runarounds all the time at best.

[Anti Globalist]

Now if Ron has Trumps alpha male personality and ran his campaign the same way he did, it'd be a completely different story.

[timosman]

Now if Ron has Trumps alpha male personality and ran his campaign the same way he did, it'd be a completely different story.

His staff didn't bribe enough people.

[Anti Federalist]

Do you think if Ron had become President that he would have been able to get anything done? I think Ron would have had an even bigger fight on his hands than Trump does.

I am kinda glad that he did not have to go thru it. I think they would have taken him out if he had tried to end the FED and the IRS and we would all be in jail or 6ft under.

I agree 100 percent.

Theye would have destroyed him and his family.

Trump has billions of dollars at his command, private staff and security, a lifetime of being dragged through the mud, having slings and arrows hurled at him and a personality that seems to thrive on the drama.

[timosman]

I agree 100 percent.

Theye would have destroyed him and his family.

Trump has billions of dollars at his command, private staff and security, a lifetime of being dragged through the mud, having slings and arrows hurled at him and a personality that seems to thrive on the drama.

His attack was quick and sudden - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blitzkrieg
He must also have double-crossed quite a few.

[Aratus]

Ron Paul would not have looted the public monies
nor have had the levels of graft we see with DJT...

[Anti Globalist]

I wouldn't be surprised if Trump looks at Ron and his movement and thinks to himself. "Wow this guy and his movement are a bunch of pussies. All this idiot had to do was run his campaign like I did and he'd be sitting in my seat right now. No wonder I don't want to associate myself with his liberty movement. It's filled with a bunch of people who don't know how to win."

[Swordsmyth]

I wouldn't be surprised if Trump looks at Ron and his movement and thinks to himself. "Wow this guy and his movement are a bunch of pussies. All this idiot had to do was run his campaign like I did and he'd be sitting in my seat right now. No wonder I don't want to associate myself with his liberty movement. It's filled with a bunch of people who don't know how to win."

Or he might look at us and say "they need a leader that can get some of their good ideas done" and work with Rand so he can take some credit for the good ideas.

[kahless]

Do you think if Ron had become President that he would have been able to get anything done? I think Ron would have had an even bigger fight on his hands than Trump does.

I am kinda glad that he did not have to go thru it. I think they would have taken him out if he had tried to end the FED and the IRS and we would all be in jail or 6ft under.

No doubt. They would accuse him of colluding with Russia, using the same game plan they used against Trump. Probably would have been worse in that respect since I do not believe Ron would have played ball with the Neocons on foreign policy as much as Trump has. So they would say he is in league or a puppet of Assad and Russia.

Much of the attacks would be the same as they used against Trump but instead of strippers and women, we would be hearing about the so called racist newsletters and painting Ron as a some sort of secret KKK member.

[timosman]

No doubt. They would accuse him of colluding with Russia, using the same game plan they used against Trump. Probably would have been worse in that respect since I do not believe Ron would have played ball with the Neocons on foreign policy as much as Trump has. So they would say he is in league or a puppet of Assad and Russia.

Much of the attacks would be the same as they used against Trump but instead of strippers and women, we would be hearing about the so called racist newsletters and painting Ron as a some sort of secret KKK member.

This is what happens when you are trying to explain yourself instead of laughing to their faces.

[Working Poor]

His staff didn't bribe enough people.

I think Ron's staff completely sucked and I think they made sure he did not win.

[Working Poor]

I wouldn't be surprised if Trump looks at Ron and his movement and thinks to himself. "Wow this guy and his movement are a bunch of pussies. All this idiot had to do was run his campaign like I did and he'd be sitting in my seat right now. No wonder I don't want to associate myself with his liberty movement. It's filled with a bunch of people who don't know how to win."

I think Trump will be taken out.

[timosman]

I think Ron's staff completely sucked and I think they made sure he did not win.

Now imagine Ron in the WhiteHouse and being played like a fiddle.

[agitator]

He would have easily won had he had Collins running the campaign.

[AZJoe]

Ron Paul is my President.

[AZJoe]

[Kilrain]

Do you think if Ron had become President that he would have been able to get anything done?

I kind of doubt he would have been able to get much of anything done, but he would have been a great president because of the things he wouldn't do. Of course he would be vilified for it, if you look at what "great" presidents have in common - like Lincoln and FDR - it's that they were able to get a lot of people killed. For some reason, "greatness" is somehow linked with getting a lot of Americans (and foreigners) killed.

[William Tell]

Ron Paul is my President.

I respect WP's opinion. Beyond that, this thread is depressing except for this post.

[donnay]

I don't believe Dr. Paul would have been able to do one thing as President. Ron Paul wasn't raised with street smarts, he doesn't know how to fight like that. Trump on the other hand does. He trolls them all the time which causes them to step out of the shadows because of it. Example: Elizabeth Warren.

We have had over 100 years of corruption planted within. You cannot draw them out in a little over a year. The things that Trump has done thus far is trolled the democrats enough, that many of them have shown their true colors, and proven, to the people, they are not lovers of liberty.

[TheTexan]

He would have easily won had he had Collins running the campaign.

This x1000

[Working Poor]

I kind of doubt he would have been able to get much of anything done, but he would have been a great president because of the things he wouldn't do. Of course he would be vilified for it, if you look at what "great" presidents have in common - like Lincoln and FDR - it's that they were able to get a lot of people killed. For some reason, "greatness" is somehow linked with getting a lot of Americans (and foreigners) killed.

I am pretty sure Ron would not have wanted to kill anyone and that would have made him quite a target for the deep state.

[jmdrake]

Do you think if Ron had become President that he would have been able to get anything done? I think Ron would have had an even bigger fight on his hands than Trump does.

I am kinda glad that he did not have to go thru it. I think they would have taken him out if he had tried to end the FED and the IRS and we would all be in jail or 6ft under.

He would have faced opposition but not it the way Trump does. People would have had to actually debate policy differences rather than falling back on "He's a pompous ass" response. He wouldn't have been laughed at when he spoke in front of the U.N. cause he wouldn't have been bragging on himself. Simply saying "We are making great strides with peace with North Korea, Daesh is no longer wantonly operating in Syria and Iraq and all of this happened without committing massive ground forces showing that non-interventionism can work" would have been Ron's way. I think on the police brutality issues he would have said "I'm against police brutality and we need to get on with rolling back the drug war which is a large part of the problem." He wouldn't have demanded the NFL fire players that protest. In short, much of Trump's opposition is drummed up by Trump.



Of course Trump's bellicose style makes him the darling of much of the GOP. So many who support Trump would oppose Ron Paul. Trump got away with saying that George W. Bush could have prevented 9/11 and didn't. Ron got attacked from the right merely for suggesting that foreign policy was the problem and for having supporters who "believe the government was behind 9/11 or at least covered it up." It's funny that post Trump, Alex Jones went from "Everything is a false flag" to "The liberals are minimizing the threat from radical Islam and all these attacks are real."

Ron never would have appointed Jeff Sessions as attorney general, and the bipartisan effort to roll back the Clinton Crime Bill would be finished by now. He wouldn't be dragging his feet on rescheduling marijuana either. (Again, no Jeff Sessions). He would have pushed for a tax cut, but he wouldn't have insisted on a budget busting military spending increase to go with it. There would be NO talk from a President Ron Paul of a new assault weapons ban, like there has been from Trump, or even a bumpfire stock ban. He would agree with the Trump proposal of allowing teachers to be armed as that is similar to Ron's proposal, which was accepted, of allowing pilots to be armed post 9/11.

In short, I think the opposition would be a wash. There would be less opposition from democrats and independents and more opposition from the GOP even though Trump is far more liberal than Ron. Trump just has an angrier style that energizes his base more. I never remember Ron Paul getting angry. We got angry for him.

[Aratus]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[Anti Federalist]

Everything your wrote...

Racist Newsletters!!! Autistic Screeching!!!

Game over.

It's funny that post Trump, Alex Jones went from "Everything is a false flag" to "The liberals are minimizing the threat from radical Islam and all these attacks are real."

One of the many reasons I don't pay Jones any mind, anymore.

[angelatc]

Now if Ron has Trumps alpha male personality and ran his campaign the same way he did, it'd be a completely different story.

That made me sad...If only indeed.